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Posted October 28, 2015 08:43 · last edited October 28, 2015 09:08

Ryan wrote:

Warwick Hunt wrote:

Tegal wrote:

yeah we've always had more of a walk up croud. I honestly think that is partially to do with weather. Easier to commit to a season of games when you live in a warmer climate. 



Supporters commit to a club, on a game by game basis or for a season for many reasons, but a warmer clime in terms of commitment is only relevant to fair-weather visitors.  

Sadly the majority of people at any sporting event in NZ, with an admission price, are attenders or pot hunters not supporters/fans.

The walk-up croud is another myth propagated by the majority of the NZ media, who will not recognise that most people in NZ prefer to watch sport from home on a big screen. Other excuses include ticket prices, beer prices, food prices, quality of food and quality of beer  

[ btw: preaching to the converted, not having a pop :-) ]

You forgot stadium shape and length of weekend.

The first part is a challenge I'm sure the owners are aware.

It shouldn't be an excuse. It's good to have TV viewer demand, more the better for the $'s

What doesn't help is the semi regular shark performances. The new punters goes to a couple of games of that in a 16-20 % full stadium where the players are dots, can't blame them for thinking, nah. 

This goes with the second part where are lot of those problems point to a better stadium for football and for the fans, supporters and entertainment seekers.

Maybe the owners should start stepping up to present and give as weight to a claim for 10+ years. Obviously the FFA want to see more and know they wouldn't accept relative croud figures or a warm fuzzy feeling as actual. 

An actual 5,000+ members, 10k+ plus crouds and consistent performance to get the average Joe to take a Sky look.

Australia is competitive and you have to be naive to think that other people aren't after yours. Especially larger targets like national football franchises. One usually has to be moving forward  faster than the kiwi average and one can't let ours be the easiest bar to jump over.

Now, I would be disappointed if the owners chucked it in. 

There two ways here to say F.U., that and the one with self belief and action.

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auskiwi edited October 28, 2015 09:08
Ryan wrote:
Warwick Hunt wrote:
Tegal wrote:

yeah we've always had more of a walk up croud. I honestly think that is partially to do with weather. Easier to commit to a season of games when you live in a warmer climate. 



Supporters commit to a club, on a game by game basis or for a season for many reasons, but a warmer clime in terms of commitment is only relevant to fair-weather visitors.  

Sadly the majority of people at any sporting event in NZ, with an admission price, are attenders or pot hunters not supporters/fans.

The walk-up croud is another myth propagated by the majority of the NZ media, who will not recognise that most people in NZ prefer to watch sport from home on a big screen. Other excuses include ticket prices, beer prices, food prices, quality of food and quality of beer  

[ btw: preaching to the converted, not having a pop :-) ]

You forgot stadium shape and length of weekend.

The first part is the challenge I'm sure the owners are aware.

What doesn't help is the semi regular shark performances. The new punters goes to a couple of games of semi shark performances in a 16-20 % full stadium and the players are dots, can't blame them for thinking, nah. 

This goes with the second part where are lot of those problems point to a better stadium for football and for the fans, supporters and entertainment seekers.