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Posted October 28, 2015 08:57 · last edited October 28, 2015 09:12

Drunk_Monk wrote:

Warwick Hunt wrote:

james dean wrote:

Drunk_Monk wrote:

Warwick Hunt wrote:

Tegal wrote:

yeah we've always had more of a walk up croud. I honestly think that is partially to do with weather. Easier to commit to a season of games when you live in a warmer climate. 

Supporters commit to a club, on a game by game basis or for a season for many reasons, but a warmer clime in terms of commitment is only relevant to fair-weather visitors.  

Sadly the majority of people at any sporting event in NZ, with an admission price, are attenders or pot hunters not supporters/fans.

The walk-up croud is another myth propagated by the majority of the NZ media, who will not recognise that most people in NZ prefer to watch sport from home on a big screen. Other excuses include ticket prices, beer prices, food prices, quality of food and quality of beer  

[ btw: preaching to the converted, not having a pop :-) ]

Beer, ticket and food prices aren't a myth to most.  It's what has kept me away from entertainment at the stadium until I was on an OK wage.

Why should I shell out a hundred bucks for a game when I paid for it live on TV anyway? Especially if the weather is shark.

Because if everyone thought like you we wouldn't have a club?

Don't drink or eat at the stadium?

Tickets have been available for $10-$12 at 'Nix games at the Stadium in the Huawei Zone or in Aisle 30-something for several seasons, including the current one. 

btw: EPL doesn't allow drinking at your GBP 30+ seat, you have to be in a Season-ticket bar (I may be out of touch, as haven't been for several years)    

Come on down to the stadium and smell the food and drink you can't afford, to experience telling your kids no they can't have a hotdog for acouple hours while you sit in the cheap seats.

Advertising campaign writes itself.

Personally I go to a game to experience live sport.This is a habit/affliction based on growing up in England at a time when going to the game involved minimal expense beyond the turnstile fee and half-time entertainment was someone peeing on the terraces, hopefully not on your jeans. 

Of course taking children to the game is a different issue, one which you've only raised a few comments into the discussion 

My main point is that NZ is not a country of unconditional support, whatever the code. The Warriors and Breakers attendance, above the hardcore,  is hugely dependent on winning games.The Breakers didn't consider moving to the Vector until they'd won at least one Championship.
When I first came to NZ in the early 90s, Auckland held the Shield for ten years and still had attendance of under 5,000

I don't want to get into a 'slanging' match with a fellow supporter :-) COYN!

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Warwick Hunt edited October 28, 2015 09:12
Drunk_Monk wrote:
Warwick Hunt wrote:
james dean wrote:
Drunk_Monk wrote:
Warwick Hunt wrote:
Tegal wrote:

yeah we've always had more of a walk up croud. I honestly think that is partially to do with weather. Easier to commit to a season of games when you live in a warmer climate. 

Supporters commit to a club, on a game by game basis or for a season for many reasons, but a warmer clime in terms of commitment is only relevant to fair-weather visitors.  

Sadly the majority of people at any sporting event in NZ, with an admission price, are attenders or pot hunters not supporters/fans.

The walk-up croud is another myth propagated by the majority of the NZ media, who will not recognise that most people in NZ prefer to watch sport from home on a big screen. Other excuses include ticket prices, beer prices, food prices, quality of food and quality of beer  

[ btw: preaching to the converted, not having a pop :-) ]

Beer, ticket and food prices aren't a myth to most.  It's what has kept me away from entertainment at the stadium until I was on an OK wage.

Why should I shell out a hundred bucks for a game when I paid for it live on TV anyway? Especially if the weather is shark.

Because if everyone thought like you we wouldn't have a club?

Don't drink or eat at the stadium?

Tickets have been available for $10-$12 at 'Nix games at the Stadium in the Huawei Zone or in Aisle 30-something for several seasons, including the current one. 

btw: EPL doesn't allow drinking at your GBP 30+ seat, you have to be in a Season-ticket bar (I may be out of touch, as haven't been for several years)    

Come on down to the stadium and smell the food and drink you can't afford, to experience telling your kids no they can't have a hotdog for acouple hours while you sit in the cheap seats.

Advertising campaign writes itself.

Personally I go to a game, to experience live sport.This is a habit/affliction based on growing up in England at a time when going to the game involved minimal expense beyond the turnstile fee and half-time entertainment was someone peeing on the terraces, hopefully not on your jeans. 

Of course taking children to the game is a different issue, one which you've only raised a few comments into the discussion 

My main point is that NZ is not a country of unconditional support, whatever the code. The Warriors and Breakers attendance, above the hardcore,  is hugely dependent on winning games.The Breakers didn't consider moving to the Vector until they'd won at least one Championship.
When I first came to NZ in the early 90s, Auckland held the Shield for ten years and still had attendance of under 5,000

I don't want to get into a 'slanging' match with a fellow supporter :-) COYN!

Warwick Hunt edited October 28, 2015 09:09
Drunk_Monk wrote:
Warwick Hunt wrote:
james dean wrote:
Drunk_Monk wrote:
Warwick Hunt wrote:
Tegal wrote:

yeah we've always had more of a walk up croud. I honestly think that is partially to do with weather. Easier to commit to a season of games when you live in a warmer climate. 

Supporters commit to a club, on a game by game basis or for a season for many reasons, but a warmer clime in terms of commitment is only relevant to fair-weather visitors.  

Sadly the majority of people at any sporting event in NZ, with an admission price, are attenders or pot hunters not supporters/fans.

The walk-up croud is another myth propagated by the majority of the NZ media, who will not recognise that most people in NZ prefer to watch sport from home on a big screen. Other excuses include ticket prices, beer prices, food prices, quality of food and quality of beer  

[ btw: preaching to the converted, not having a pop :-) ]

Beer, ticket and food prices aren't a myth to most.  It's what has kept me away from entertainment at the stadium until I was on an OK wage.

Why should I shell out a hundred bucks for a game when I paid for it live on TV anyway? Especially if the weather is shark.

Because if everyone thought like you we wouldn't have a club?

Don't drink or eat at the stadium?

Tickets have been available for $10-$12 at 'Nix games at the Stadium in the Huawei Zone or in Aisle 30-something for several seasons, including the current one. 

btw: EPL doesn't allow drinking at your GBP 30+ seat, you have to be in a Season-ticket bar (I may be out of touch, as haven't been for several years)    

Come on down to the stadium and smell the food and drink you can't afford, to experience telling your kids no they can't have a hotdog for acouple hours while you sit in the cheap seats.

Advertising campaign writes itself.


Personally I go to a game, to experience live sport.This is a habit/affliction based on growing up in England at a time when going to the game involved minimal expense beyond the turnstile fee and half-time entertainment was someone peeing on the terraces, hopefully not on your jeans. 

Of course taking children to the game is a different issue, one which you've only raised a few comments into the discussion 

My main point is that NZ is not a country of unconditional support, whatever the code. The Warriors and Breakers attendance, above the hardcore,  is hugely dependent on winning games.The Breakers didn't consider moving to the Vector until they'dwon at least one Championship.
When I first came to NZ in the early 90s, Auckland held the Shield for ten years and still had attendance of under 5,000

I don't want to get into a 'slanging' match with a fellow supporter :-) COYN!