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Posted October 22, 2012 07:02 · last edited October 22, 2012 07:03

hepatitis wrote:

ginger_eejit wrote:

asmodeus_82 wrote:

ginger_eejit wrote:

asmodeus_82 wrote:

BarryZuckerkorn

[quote=dairyflat

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 Love all the MICRO-analysis.  I'd put the goal down to Siggy not having the right tension in the laces of his left training boot three seasons back. Buttefly effect  and all that....

[/quote] The idea of causality is a hangover of centuries of deteministic classical thinking. There are no reasons for anything, only chaotic fluctuations in the quantum foam.Time is also an illusion imposed on existence by our mind's limited capacity confronting infinity. The goal was, is and shall be. There is nothing else that can be said about it.

Have you been reading too much David Hume or something Barry?
Don't worry the fluctuations aren't random and the quantum foam is consciousness. You see the greatest illusion is that of separation, there is no dualism between mind and matter, there is only mind, no substance only properties. The quantum foam/superstring/god are all one in the same, this is consciousness manifesting itself as the universe in a grand process of introspection in which all possible potentials are realized through the infinite diverging worlds parallel existences.
The goal both is and is not, only by the means of our collective free perception have we witnessed it and only in this spatio-temporal realm has the goal eventuated. All other possible occurrences and outcomes for the game and every other event have been brought into existence in other imperceptible parts of the universe.



Yeah, right!
Hey man if you've got a better explanation for reality that can handle the paradoxes without contradicting itself while being consistent with contemporary physics I'd love to hear it. 

Non-dualism is the best explanation for existence/reality I've found thus far and I've been actively looking for four years or so. Of course then I go trying to combine it with string theory... (note: the above is actually what I genuinely believe is the ultimate nature of reality, convoluted as it is thinking about stuff is better than taking the universe at face value from your unreliable sense data.)

Yeah; metaphysics can be a real mindf***!


An intresting existentialist proposition, there is no intrinsic meaning in an deterministic universe, only what we project as a meaning onto our actions, although I would've though the self-awareness/analysis that is present with non-duality, would present the following issue, an existential Bohr effect, being aware of your self, you can't truly observe one-self without affecting your own behaviour, the causality of introspection/self-awareness, if you wish, although non-dualism claims to transcend the inner and external self through the nirvana of enlightenment, a position I've yet to be sold on.


I dont think so, therefore I am


LOL non cogito ergo sum

If I am no longer conscious of my self, do I cease to exist?

If we no longer discuss Sigmund's poor positioning, did it happen?

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ginger_eejit edited October 22, 2012 07:03
hepatitis wrote:
ginger_eejit wrote:
asmodeus_82 wrote:
ginger_eejit wrote:
asmodeus_82 wrote:
BarryZuckerkorn</p><p>[quote=dairyflat wrote:

 Love all the MICRO-analysis.  I'd put the goal down to Siggy not having the right tension in the laces of his left training boot three seasons back. Buttefly effect  and all that....

[/quote] The idea of causality is a hangover of centuries of deteministic classical thinking. There are no reasons for anything, only chaotic fluctuations in the quantum foam.Time is also an illusion imposed on existence by our mind's limited capacity confronting infinity. The goal was, is and shall be. There is nothing else that can be said about it.

Have you been reading too much David Hume or something Barry?
Don't worry the fluctuations aren't random and the quantum foam is consciousness. You see the greatest illusion is that of separation, there is no dualism between mind and matter, there is only mind, no substance only properties. The quantum foam/superstring/god are all one in the same, this is consciousness manifesting itself as the universe in a grand process of introspection in which all possible potentials are realized through the infinite diverging worlds parallel existences.
The goal both is and is not, only by the means of our collective free perception have we witnessed it and only in this spatio-temporal realm has the goal eventuated. All other possible occurrences and outcomes for the game and every other event have been brought into existence in other imperceptible parts of the universe.



Yeah, right!
Hey man if you've got a better explanation for reality that can handle the paradoxes without contradicting itself while being consistent with contemporary physics I'd love to hear it. 

Non-dualism is the best explanation for existence/reality I've found thus far and I've been actively looking for four years or so. Of course then I go trying to combine it with string theory... (note: the above is actually what I genuinely believe is the ultimate nature of reality, convoluted as it is thinking about stuff is better than taking the universe at face value from your unreliable sense data.)

Yeah; metaphysics can be a real mindf***!


An intresting existentialist proposition, there is no intrinsic meaning in an deterministic universe, only what we project as a meaning onto our actions, although I would've though the self-awareness/analysis that is present with non-duality, would present the following issue, an existential Bohr effect, being aware of your self, you can't truly observe one-self without affecting your own behaviour, the causality of introspection/self-awareness, if you wish, although non-dualism claims to transcend the inner and external self through the nirvana of enlightenment, a position I've yet to be sold on.


I dont think so, therefore I am


LOL non cogito ergo sum

If I am no longer conscious of my self, do I cease to exist?