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Posted December 26, 2016 19:25 · last edited December 26, 2016 19:30

Surge wrote:

IF Welnix want us to stay in the league, then they need to make substantial changes/investment. What we've been doing is simply not enough.

We're treading water - on the pitch and off it. Comparisons with CCM/Newy who are the perennial bottom feeders aren't doing anything to improve our standing in the league. Whether crowds, players, results, memberships, style, whatever - we simply aren't doing enough.

Being stable isn't good enough whilst we're in the lower echelon of franchises.

I don't know what the answer is, but I really hope the club behind the scenes are looking at opportunities to lift our game (in more ways than one). If we keep doing what we're doing it's only a question of when, not if.

Bosnich might be a gobby oaf, but he reflects the thoughts of many of your average Ocker footy people - whether we like it (or want to believe it, or not). Just imagine for a minute the boot was on the other foot. Sure; it'd have to be rugby but we/NZ would look at an Aussie team just as harshly.

IT's not good enough for us not to be as bad/poor/crap as the bad/poor/crap Aussie teams - we need to be much better than that. And we need to be "seen" to be much better... and we can argue whatever facts we like but the one that matters is that currently, we're not.

Bring on 2017!

I don't think you're right, even in the most hostile places on the internet the nix out people are in the minority. There are two things which are more alarming, one is we do have hard deadlines with the FFA and two is that Welnix themselves have said that they are only prepared to fund the team if they meet those deadlines. Which is fair enough, why fund a team that has declining crowds? The opinion of the Australian public is of lesser concern than the opinion of the owners and the FFA, that's harsh to say because the Australian public kept the team in the competition and of course we're very greatful, but they did their part and our survival is now out of their hands.

I don't think investment is a problem, we have the academy system, Martin Luckie park, and a first team that uses all of the holes in the salary cap for the first time. No Wellington investor is going to spend 9 million on a team like City does, or 7 million like Sydney and if that's the only pathway to win then our only hope is a corrupt Chinese billionaire coming along with the mistaken idea that spending a fortune on the capital cities football team is a way to sway the governments opinions of them. If investment is a problem then we're fudgeed because Welnix are investing a sharkload into this team, it's certainly better funded than when Terry was in charge.

The squad should be a top four squad, the balance may be wrong, but the investment is there and the players are in place. What we need is someone to instill a bit of fight into the team. Maybe the nice guy coaches like Ernie and Chris are not what we need and we need a dictator in charge like Ramon or Rudan.

Also I wish I could un-this.

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Ryan edited December 26, 2016 19:30
Surge wrote:

IF Welnix want us to stay in the league, then they need to make substantial changes/investment. What we've been doing is simply not enough.

We're treading water - on the pitch and off it. Comparisons with CCM/Newy who are the perennial bottom feeders aren't doing anything to improve our standing in the league. Whether crowds, players, results, memberships, style, whatever - we simply aren't doing enough.

Being stable isn't good enough whilst we're in the lower echelon of franchises.

I don't know what the answer is, but I really hope the club behind the scenes are looking at opportunities to lift our game (in more ways than one). If we keep doing what we're doing it's only a question of when, not if.

Bosnich might be a gobby oaf, but he reflects the thoughts of many of your average Ocker footy people - whether we like it (or want to believe it, or not). Just imagine for a minute the boot was on the other foot. Sure; it'd have to be rugby but we/NZ would look at an Aussie team just as harshly.

IT's not good enough for us not to be as bad/poor/crap as the bad/poor/crap Aussie teams - we need to be much better than that. And we need to be "seen" to be much better... and we can argue whatever facts we like but the one that matters is that currently, we're not.

Bring on 2017!

I don't think you're right, even in the most hostile places on the internet the nix out people are in the minority. There are two things which are more alarming, one is we do have hard deadlines with the FFA and two is that Welnix themselves have said that they are only prepared to fund the team if they meet those deadlines. Which is fair enough, why fund a team that has declining crowds? The opinion of the Australian public is of lesser concern than the opinion of the owners and the FFA, that's harsh to say because the Australian public kept the team in the competition and of course we're very greatful, but they did their part and our survival is now out of their hands.

I don't think investment is a problem, we have the academy system, Martin Luckie park, and a first team that uses all of the holes in the salary cap for the first time. No Wellington investor is going to spend 9 million on a team like City does, or 7 million like Sydney and if that's the only pathway to win then our only hope is a corrupt Chinese billionaire coming along with the mistaken idea that spending a fortune on the capital cities football team is a way to sway the governments opinions of them. If investment is a problem then we're fudgeed because Welnix are investing a sharkload into this team, it's certainly better funded than when Terry was in charge.

The squad should be a top four squad, the balance may be wrong, but the investment is there. What we need is someone to instill a bit of fight into the team. Maybe the nice guy coaches like Ernie and Chris are not what we need and we need a dictator in charge like Ramon or Rudan.

Also I wish I could un-this.

Ryan edited December 26, 2016 19:28
Surge wrote:

IF Welnix want us to stay in the league, then they need to make substantial changes/investment. What we've been doing is simply not enough.

We're treading water - on the pitch and off it. Comparisons with CCM/Newy who are the perennial bottom feeders aren't doing anything to improve our standing in the league. Whether crowds, players, results, memberships, style, whatever - we simply aren't doing enough.

Being stable isn't good enough whilst we're in the lower echelon of franchises.

I don't know what the answer is, but I really hope the club behind the scenes are looking at opportunities to lift our game (in more ways than one). If we keep doing what we're doing it's only a question of when, not if.

Bosnich might be a gobby oaf, but he reflects the thoughts of many of your average Ocker footy people - whether we like it (or want to believe it, or not). Just imagine for a minute the boot was on the other foot. Sure; it'd have to be rugby but we/NZ would look at an Aussie team just as harshly.

IT's not good enough for us not to be as bad/poor/crap as the bad/poor/crap Aussie teams - we need to be much better than that. And we need to be "seen" to be much better... and we can argue whatever facts we like but the one that matters is that currently, we're not.

Bring on 2017!

I don't think you're right, even in the most hostile places on the internet the nix out people are in the minority. There are two things which are more alarming, one is we do have hard deadlines with the FFA and two is that Welnix themselves have said that they are only prepared to fund the team if they meet those deadlines. Which is fair enough, why fund a team that has declining crowds? 

I don't think investment is a problem, we have the academy system, Martin Luckie park, and a first team that uses all of the holes in the salary cap for the first time. No Wellington investor is going to spend 9 million on a team like City does, or 7 million like Sydney and if that's the only pathway to win then our only hope is a corrupt Chinese billionaire coming along with the mistaken idea that spending a fortune on the capital cities football team is a way to sway the governments opinions of them. If investment is a problem then we're fudgeed because Welnix are investing a sharkload into this team, it's certainly better funded than when Terry was in charge.

The squad should be a top four squad, the balance may be wrong, but the investment is there. What we need is someone to instill a bit of fight into the team. Maybe the nice guy coaches like Ernie and Chris are not what we need and we need a dictator in charge like Ramon or Rudan.

Also I wish I could un-this.

Ryan edited December 26, 2016 19:26

I don't think your right, even in the most hostile places on the internet the nix out people are in the minority. There are two things which are more alarming, one is we do have hard deadlines with the FFA and two is that Welnix themselves have said that they are only prepared to fund the team if they meet those deadlines. Which is fair enough, why fund a team that has declining crowds? 

I don't think investment is a problem, we have the academy system, Martin Luckie park, and a first team that uses all of the holes in the salary cap for the first time. No Wellington investor is going to spend 9 million on a team like City does, or 7 million like Sydney and if that's the only pathway to win then our only hope is a corrupt Chinese billionaire coming along with the mistaken idea that spending a fortune on the capital cities football team is a way to sway the governments opinions of them. If investment is a problem then we're fudgeed because Welnix are investing a sharkload into this team, it's certainly better funded than when Terry was in charge.

The squad should be a top four squad, the balance may be wrong, but the investment is there. What we need is someone to instill a bit of fight into the team. Maybe the nice guy coaches like Ernie and Chris are not what we need and we need a dictator in charge like Ramon or Rudan.