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Posted February 16, 2018 20:04 · last edited February 16, 2018 20:16

Kiwi Hatter wrote:

Ryan wrote:

I'm not saying don't protest, I'm just questioning where the energy is being focused. IMO the buck stops with Dome I fail to see how any entity independent from the team really is relevant, there might as well be a protest against the stadium trust for being too expensive and forcing the club in the road.

As I have mentioned previously the information you are basing your assumptions on is flawed. 

Do you think that Dome has the final word?

It’s Welnix, or more than likely, Rob Morrison, who has rubber stamped this move to Auckland for the last game. 

Maybe you should try & have a conversation with David Dome, before you start laying the blame on one employee!

The team obviously didn't want to move the last game at short notice, it was organised because they were out of options - they could have done this earlier or been more clear that this was an option. They did say that they were moving 2 or 3 games out of Wellington at the start of the season, they were clear about that, but they could have given options and said "these are the games that may move, don't make plans for them." The problem isn't moving games, those are the commercial realities that the Phoenix operate in, and you're not going to change that because changing that will mean the club will fold, the problem is the lack of notice and communication.

So fine, the buck stops with the chairman of the board or the GM it doesn't really matter. Or are you still going on about this mysterious CEO that doesn't exist?

The point is the buck stops with management. And the GM is the one who engages with the fans but didn't. You have a habit of going of on hypothetical tangents and inventing things to be mad about. We don't hear from Morrison and while it's likely he has his hands in a lot of decisions he's not running the club day to day and he's not the one fronting the media about these decisions.

Anyway, you've completely missed the point, the point is if you're mad with the club bag the club the GM was just an example.

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Unknown editor edited February 16, 2018 20:16
Kiwi Hatter wrote:
Ryan wrote:

I'm not saying don't protest, I'm just questioning where the energy is being focused. IMO the buck stops with Dome I fail to see how any entity independent from the team really is relevant, there might as well be a protest against the stadium trust for being too expensive and forcing the club in the road.

As I have mentioned previously the information you are basing your assumptions on is flawed. 

Do you think that Dome has the final word?

It’s Welnix, or more than likely, Rob Morrison, who has rubber stamped this move to Auckland for the last game. 

Maybe you should try & have a conversation with David Dome, before you start laying the blame on one employee!

The team obviously didn't want to move the last game at short notice, it was organised because they were out of options - they could have done this earlier or been more clear that this was an option. They did say that they were moving 2 or 3 games out of Wellington at the start of the season, they were clear about that, but they could have given options and said "these are the games that may move, don't make plans for them." The problem isn't moving games, those are the commercial realities that the Phoenix operate in, and you're not going to change that because changing that will mean the club will fold, the problem is the lack of notice and communication.

So fine, the buck stops with the chairman of the board or the GM it doesn't really matter. Or are you still going on about this mysterious CEO that doesn't exist?

The point is the buck stops with management. And the GM is the one who engages with the fans but didn't. You have a habit of going of on hypothetical tangents and inventing things to be mad about. We don't hear from Morrison and while it's likely he has his hands in a lot of decisions he's not running the club day to day and he's not the one fronting the media about these decisions.

Unknown editor edited February 16, 2018 20:08
Kiwi Hatter wrote:
Ryan wrote:

I'm not saying don't protest, I'm just questioning where the energy is being focused. IMO the buck stops with Dome I fail to see how any entity independent from the team really is relevant, there might as well be a protest against the stadium trust for being too expensive and forcing the club in the road.

As I have mentioned previously the information you are basing your assumptions on is flawed. 

Do you think that Dome has the final word?

It’s Welnix, or more than likely, Rob Morrison, who has rubber stamped this move to Auckland for the last game. 

Maybe you should try & have a conversation with David Dome, before you start laying the blame on one employee!

The team obviously didn't want to move the last game at short notice, it was organised because they were out of options - they could have done this earlier or been more clear that this was an option. They did say that they were moving 2 or 3 games out of Wellington at the start of the season, they were clear about that, but they could have given options and said "these are the games that may move, don't make plans for them." The problem isn't moving games, those are the commercial realities that the Phoenix operate in, and you're not going to change that because changing that will mean the club will fold, the problem is the lack of notice and communication.

So fine, the buck stops with the chairman of the board or the GM it doesn't really matter. Or are you still going on about this mysterious CEO that doesn't exist?

The point is the buck stops with management. And the GM is the one who engages with the fans but didn't.