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Posted January 03, 2012 22:40 · last edited March 18, 2021 07:47

Luis Garcia wrote:
Jeff Vader wrote:

Luis Garcia wrote:
Jeff Vader wrote:

So he has had 3 years in the Premiership.2 of those years at Waitakere.1 of those years he was a 1st name on the sheet player.Now he is in Wellington and we should give him a go?Until he sorts out his personal issues (clowning a ref and picking a fight with Muscat) I wouldn't pick him. Its not like he has set the Premiership on fire like Jordan, Young, Totori (when he was at YHM) in the 3 years he has been the league. I'd also ask if he was a better player than Mulligan (who didn't make it) Clapham (who is an All White) and Vicelich (who is also an All White) in the same league.I stand by my statement and back it up.edit: I'll also add that he loses nothing becoming a better player getting 90mins in the league he is in for a couple of years. If he is not putting them away against Premiership defences, what chance has he got against A League defences? At least then he has got a couple of years to show that he is a legitimate goalscorer cause if he is, he should at least take the golden boot at least once. Why would you pick someone just to sit on the bench at best.





Andrew Mulligan, Aaron Clapham and Ivan Vicelich aren't strikers though. I was basically saying if we are after a young striker than why this guy over Dakota Lucas.
Neither is Andrew Mulligan....I don't know the guys record and I'm not going to look it up but again, what has Dakota Lucas done? Did he light up the NRFL? Did he light up the Premiership in the last 2 years? What has he got that is going to make him better than the other guy. Russell Kamo, who is a complete donkey, has done more than Lucas and I wouldn't give him a look in.Just cause its a popular name getting flogged about at the moment and he scored a goal here and 2 in a friendly is not grounds to get a foot in the door. We are a pro football club and need to sign players that are going to improve the team. I don't have any names to give you but this is not one of them.


Why is Russell Kamo his major competition?

Dakota Lucas looked great for the NZ U20 side and I've been impressed with him for TW. He was also outstanding for Waitakere last year.

Again my point is basically saying we should sign a good teenage kiwi striker over a good teenage Aussie striker.


I'm not arguing your point about Kiwis v Aussies. I agree with that. I probably wouldn't trial the Aussie kid either so we can take that off the table.
I picked Russell Kamo cause you wanted a striker. He is not 'major competition' but is a striker in the same league as Lucas, is (in my opinion) a rubbish footballer but he has a better goalscoring record. Yet I wouldn't give Russell Kamo a trial so we can take that discussion point off the table.

It all comes back to what has Dakota Lucas done to get a trial. Again, show me his record. Outstanding for Waitakere last year? I think you mean Allan Pearce who knocked them all in. We want a goal scorer and Pearce's record is better than Lucas, and he isn't getting a look in. Similar strong body style, pace, skill. A run for the under 20s and a couple of goals here and there do not cut it.

Show me the proof to back up your point! When you find there is no history and record behind it and that he is a bit of a nut job, you'll understand why he should not get a trial. Personality and fitting in with team culture has a place as well along with talent. It just takes one Lei Lei G** to cause trouble at training and its all on. Not to insult your football prowess as I am sure you read the papers and hear the same mantra that these guys are a close knit team so being able to fit in with that should also be considered.

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Luis Garcia wrote:
Jeff Vader wrote:

Luis Garcia wrote:
Jeff Vader wrote:

So he has had 3 years in the Premiership.2 of those years at Waitakere.1 of those years he was a 1st name on the sheet player.Now he is in Wellington and we should give him a go?Until he sorts out his personal issues (clowning a ref and picking a fight with Muscat) I wouldn't pick him. Its not like he has set the Premiership on fire like Jordan, Young, Totori (when he was at YHM) in the 3 years he has been the league. I'd also ask if he was a better player than Mulligan (who didn't make it) Clapham (who is an All White) and Vicelich (who is also an All White) in the same league.I stand by my statement and back it up.edit: I'll also add that he loses nothing becoming a better player getting 90mins in the league he is in for a couple of years. If he is not putting them away against Premiership defences, what chance has he got against A League defences? At least then he has got a couple of years to show that he is a legitimate goalscorer cause if he is, he should at least take the golden boot at least once. Why would you pick someone just to sit on the bench at best.





Andrew Mulligan, Aaron Clapham and Ivan Vicelich aren't strikers though. I was basically saying if we are after a young striker than why this guy over Dakota Lucas.
Neither is Andrew Mulligan....I don't know the guys record and I'm not going to look it up but again, what has Dakota Lucas done? Did he light up the NRFL? Did he light up the Premiership in the last 2 years? What has he got that is going to make him better than the other guy. Russell Kamo, who is a complete donkey, has done more than Lucas and I wouldn't give him a look in.Just cause its a popular name getting flogged about at the moment and he scored a goal here and 2 in a friendly is not grounds to get a foot in the door. We are a pro football club and need to sign players that are going to improve the team. I don't have any names to give you but this is not one of them.


Why is Russell Kamo his major competition?

Dakota Lucas looked great for the NZ U20 side and I've been impressed with him for TW. He was also outstanding for Waitakere last year.

Again my point is basically saying we should sign a good teenage kiwi striker over a good teenage Aussie striker.


I'm not arguing your point about Kiwis v Aussies. I agree with that. I probably wouldn't trial the Aussie kid either so we can take that off the table.
I picked Russell Kamo cause you wanted a striker. He is not 'major competition' but is a striker in the same league as Lucas, is (in my opinion) a rubbish footballer but he has a better goalscoring record. Yet I wouldn't give Russell Kamo a trial so we can take that discussion point off the table.

It all comes back to what has Dakota Lucas done to get a trial. Again, show me his record. Outstanding for Waitakere last year? I think you mean Allan Pearce who knocked them all in. We want a goal scorer and Pearce's record is better than Lucas, and he isn't getting a look in. Similar strong body style, pace, skill. A run for the under 20s and a couple of goals here and there do not cut it.

Show me the proof to back up your point! When you find there is no history and record behind it and that he is a bit of a nut job, you'll understand why he should not get a trial. Personality and fitting in with team culture has a place as well along with talent. It just takes one Lei Lei G** to cause trouble at training and its all on. Not to insult your football prowess as I am sure you read the papers and hear the same mantra that these guys are a close knit team so being able to fit in with that should also be considered.