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Posted March 04, 2018 01:35 · last edited March 04, 2018 01:36

Bullion wrote:

Cantrun7 wrote:

I watched last night the jets vs sydney -best game of the year.

10 man jets bets sydney - Jets fought, never gave up, kept attacking -great game.

Coach same coach phoenix had for 3 and half years.

Different players.

Last phoenix game was the worse ive watched for a long time. it wasnt the losing, but it seemed like they didnt want to fight, that they just gave up. Yes the coach may be an issue for the players, but why do our players not fight to the end, why do they seem to quit.

you can have all the wonderful culture and management and back office/front office you like, but if the players arent prepared to go stuff it, in spite of it all and fight and show guts and determination we will never be a top 4 team. 

Sorry, but whats wrong with the phoenix is the players themselves. 

I don't think you can say that because Ernie is doing well at NUJ that the poor seasons with him had nothing to do with him - a big part of our problems during that time have a lot to do with him. I think it is no surprise that he is not trying to implement that same system at NUJ - that is a big indicator that what he was trying to do with us was not working.

My take is that there were also limiting factors here, that he felt he could not influence, and I don't know what they were, that caused him to leave. There is also no doubt that he had run out of ideas here and needed to leave.

And boy has this been a great move for him, and good on him because he has shown the ability to adapt his approach and build a really effective team

If you haven't seen last night's game, I suggest you try to and note how hard those dudes worked and how effective they were. It was an amazing performance

And also check out Jordy Buijs, what a cock

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Bullion wrote:
Cantrun7 wrote:

I watched last night the jets vs sydney -best game of the year.

10 man jets bets sydney - Jets fought, never gave up, kept attacking -great game.

Coach same coach phoenix had for 3 and half years.

Different players.

Last phoenix game was the worse ive watched for a long time. it wasnt the losing, but it seemed like they didnt want to fight, that they just gave up. Yes the coach may be an issue for the players, but why do our players not fight to the end, why do they seem to quit.

you can have all the wonderful culture and management and back office/front office you like, but if the players arent prepared to go stuff it, in spite of it all and fight and show guts and determination we will never be a top 4 team. 

Sorry, but whats wrong with the phoenix is the players themselves. 

I don't think you can say that because Ernie is doing well at NUJ that the poor seasons with him had nothing to do with him - a big part of our problems during that time have a lot to do with him. I think it is no surprise that he is not trying to implement that same system at NUJ - that is a big indicator that what he was trying to do with us was not working.

My take i that there were also limiting factors here, that he felt he could not influence, and I don't know what they were, that caused him to leave

And boy has this been a great move for him, and good on him because he has shown the ability to adapt his approach and build a really effective team

If you haven't seen last night's game, I suggest you try to and note how hard those dudes worked and how effective they were. It was an amazing performance

And also check out Jordy Buijs, what a cock

Unknown editor edited March 04, 2018 01:35
Bullion wrote:
Cantrun7 wrote:

I watched last night the jets vs sydney -best game of the year.

10 man jets bets sydney - Jets fought, never gave up, kept attacking -great game.

Coach same coach phoenix had for 3 and half years.

Different players.

Last phoenix game was the worse ive watched for a long time. it wasnt the losing, but it seemed like they didnt want to fight, that they just gave up. Yes the coach may be an issue for the players, but why do our players not fight to the end, why do they seem to quit.

you can have all the wonderful culture and management and back office/front office you like, but if the players arent prepared to go stuff it, in spite of it all and fight and show guts and determination we will never be a top 4 team. 

Sorry, but whats wrong with the phoenix is the players themselves. 

I don't think you can say that because Ernie is doing well at NUJ that the poor seasons with him had nothing to do with him - a big part of our problems during that time have a lot to do with him. I think it is no surprise that he is not trying to implement that same system at NUJ - that is a big indicator that what he was trying to do with us was not working.

My take i that there were also limiting factors here, that he felt he could not influence, and I don't know what they were, that caused him to leave

And boy has this been a great move for him, and good on him because he has shown the ability to adapt his approach and build a really effective team

If you haven't seen last night's game, I suggest you try to and note how hard those dudes worked and how effective they were. It was an amazing performance

And also check out Jody Buijs, what a cock