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WPM 2023/24 Squad Speculation, Confirmation and Mutual Termination

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Posted May 26, 2023 11:56 · last edited May 26, 2023 12:15

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As well you have to consider we had the pick of AW professional players for a long time. A lot of the talent that is spread over US and Europe now came home to get the Nix going. Our imports were a mixed bag, but our home grown players, at least initially, were often good enough to have been imports in other teams. 

Now we’re a team of imports and youth development, but Toto, Chen, Gao, Tony flippin back up keeper Warner, Sanchez, Cleberson… and we’re talking early internet video and smartphone age. There wasn’t always great scouting video available. An import slot didn’t mean a Taylor or an Ifill each time. 

Daniel was still there because he’d earned the respect for him to be allowed to leave at a pace we might not tolerate today. 

Moss came from Knights/Romania, Sigmund from the National League, Bertos from lower league UK/Perth Glory, Lochhead from MLS (but as squaddie really),  Brown from Newcastle Jets, Christie from Knights/Glory & Smeltz from Halifax Town. Mostly funded via the IRD??

It would be like having Crocombe/Tzanev, Kyle Adams, Musa, Deklan Wynne, Roux, Howieson & Max Mata all sign for the Nix now. Not really the cream of current NZ football talent. Though you would be getting an experienced Kiwi spine I guess.

No- they were starting All Whites. They were among the best we had. Many had had US college experience. 

Smeltz had burst into recognition against Wales. Bertos was an import at Perth and had a record for assists, as well as later being linked with Real Madrid (I can use straw men too!). Moss and Paston were the two main AW keepers- tbf probably quite similar to Tzanev and Crocombe. Lochy was the starting LB, again with the US college experience. A squaddie in the MLS you say- but that is better than 5 of the examples you give. That’s almost Tuiloma level. 
And you forgot Vaughn Coveney, at the time iirc, AW record goal scorer. 

And the path was paved for a lot of future AWs by their performances in 2010, so their efforts made it easier for current NZ players to be noticed. 

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coochiee
martinb
As well you have to consider we had the pick of AW professional players for a long time. A lot of the talent that is spread over US and Europe now came home to get the Nix going. Our imports were a mixed bag, but our home grown players, at least initially, were often good enough to have been imports in other teams. 

Now we’re a team of imports and youth development, but Toto, Chen, Gao, Tony flippin back up keeper Warner, Sanchez, Cleberson… and we’re talking early internet video and smartphone age. There wasn’t always great scouting video available. An import slot didn’t mean a Taylor or an Ifill each time. 

Daniel was still there because he’d earned the respect for him to be allowed to leave at a pace we might not tolerate today. 

Moss came from Knights/Romania, Sigmund from the National League, Bertos from lower league UK/Perth Glory, Lochhead from MLS (but as squaddie really),  Brown from Newcastle Jets, Christie from Knights/Glory & Smeltz from Halifax Town. Mostly funded via the IRD??

It would be like having Crocombe/Tzanev, Kyle Adams, Musa, Deklan Wynne, Roux, Howieson & Max Mata all sign for the Nix now. Not really the cream of current NZ football talent. Though you would be getting an experienced Kiwi spine I guess.

No- they were starting All Whites. They were among the best we had. Many had had US college experience. 

Smeltz had burst into recognition against Wales. Bertos was an import at Perth and had a record for assists, as well as later being linked with Real Madrid (I can use straw men too!). Moss and Paston were the two main AW keepers- tbf probably quite similar to Tzanev and Crocombe. Lochy was the starting LB, again with the US college experience. A squaddie in the MLS you say- but that is better than 5 of the examples you give. That’s almost Tuiloma level. 
And you forgot Vaughn Coveney, at the time iirc, AW record goal scorer. 

And that the path was paved for a lot of future AWs by their performances in 2010, so their efforts made it easier for current NZ players to be noticed. 
Unknown editor edited May 26, 2023 12:03
coochiee
martinb
As well you have to consider we had the pick of AW professional players for a long time. A lot of the talent that is spread over US and Europe now came home to get the Nix going. Our imports were a mixed bag, but our home grown players, at least initially, were often good enough to have been imports in other teams. 

Now we’re a team of imports and youth development, but Toto, Chen, Gao, Tony flippin back up keeper Warner, Sanchez, Cleberson… and we’re talking early internet video and smartphone age. There wasn’t always great scouting video available. An import slot didn’t mean a Taylor or an Ifill each time. 

Daniel was still there because he’d earned the respect for him to be allowed to leave at a pace we might not tolerate today. 

Moss came from Knights/Romania, Sigmund from the National League, Bertos from lower league UK/Perth Glory, Lochhead from MLS (but as squaddie really),  Brown from Newcastle Jets, Christie from Knights/Glory & Smeltz from Halifax Town. Mostly funded via the IRD??

It would be like having Crocombe/Tzanev, Kyle Adams, Musa, Deklan Wynne, Roux, Howieson & Max Mata all sign for the Nix now. Not really the cream of current NZ football talent. Though you would be getting an experienced Kiwi spine I guess.

No- they were starting All Whites. They were among the best we had. Many had had US college experience. 

Smeltz had burst into recognition against Wales. Bertos was an import at Perth and had a record for assists, as well as later being linked with Real Madrid (I can use straw men too!). Moss and Paston were the two main AW keepers. Lochy was the starting LB, again with the US college experience. A squaddie in the MLS you say- but that is better than 5 of the examples you give. That’s almost Tuiloma level. 
And you forgot Vaughn Coveney, at the time iirc, AW record goal scorer. 

And that the path was paved for a lot of future AWs by their performances in 2010, so their efforts made it easier for current NZ players to be noticed.