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Posted January 06, 2024 10:15 · last edited January 06, 2024 11:17

 Think it's a mixture of a couple of things.

The Phoenix have some unique facilities, like they have a training studio which can simulate altitude, humidity, and temperature anywhere in the world at any time of the year. Or, they have pools with exercise equipment in them with windows where the trainers and physios can work with people while they're not under load.

They also have normal facilities which are just better than the other teams, like they have precise temperature controlled hot and cold plunge pools and multiple types of saunas and a room that gets really bloody cold.

In comparison, before City opened their new training facility they were using wheely bins full of ice water for their ice baths. IIRC Sydney use a universities facilities.

Edit: I just googled and in August last year Sydney moved into a new facility at Macquire University that they claim is the best in Australia (although all teams always claim that) - it cost $30 million Australian. Melbourne Cities new facilities also cost $30 million. Melbourne Victory trains on a public ground and uses commercial facilities (much like the Phoenix used to I guess), but tried to build an $18 million dollar elite training centre on another public park, but the council said no. CCMs facilities were supposed to be $100 million all up, but I don't believe they were ever finished. The Wanderers training facilities cost $15 million. The new Western United training facilities cost $25 million. Adelaide Uniteds cost $700,000. Perth Glory's cost $32 million. Brisbane should move into a $22 million dollar facility soon. The Jets use a public athletics centre. MacArthur is building a $38 million dollar facility. By comparison, the NZCIS facility that the Phoenix are in cost $150 million NZ so there's a substantial difference in budget that will flow on to quality. 

Most of these facilities were funded by councils or universities (a lot were developed recently because of the world cup), so the Phoenix are bloody lucky to have CIS because the Wellington rate payer would probably prefer to spend that sort of money on water pipes. IIRC a lot of CIS was paid for by the government as it was a shovel ready project to keep the economy going during covid. Also, Victory, Jets, and Adelaide seem to be falling behind.

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Unknown editor edited January 06, 2024 11:17
 Think it's a mixture of a couple of things.

The Phoenix have some unique facilities, like they have a training studio which can simulate altitude, humidity, and temperature anywhere in the world at any time of the year. Or, they have pools with exercise equipment in them with windows where the trainers and physios can work with people while they're not under load.

They also have normal facilities which are just better than the other teams, like they have precise temperature controlled hot and cold plunge pools and multiple types of saunas and a room that gets really bloody cold.

In comparison, before City opened their new training facility they were using wheely bins full of ice water for their ice baths. IIRC Sydney use a universities facilities.

Edit: I just googled and in August last year Sydney moved into a new facility at Macquire University that they claim is the best in Australia (although all teams always claim that) - it cost $30 million Australian. Melbourne Cities new facilities also cost $30 million. Melbourne Victory trains on a public ground and uses commercial facilities (much like the Phoenix used to I guess), but tried to build an $18 million dollar elite training centre on another public park, but the council said no. CCMs facilities were supposed to be $100 million all up, but I don't believe they were ever finished. The Wanderers training facilities cost $15 million. The new Western United training facilities cost $25 million. Adelaide Uniteds cost $700,000. Perth Glory's cost $32 million. Brisbane should move into a $22 million dollar facility soon. The Jets use a public athletics centre. MacArthur is building a $38 million dollar facility. By comparison, the NZCIS facility that the Phoenix are in cost $150 million NZ so there's a substantial difference in budget that will flow on to quality. 

Most of these facilities were funded by councils or universities, so the Phoenix are bloody lucky to have CIS because I think the Wellington rate payer would prefer to spend that money on water pipes. IIRC a lot of CIS was paid for by the government as it was a shovel ready project to keep the economy going during covid. Also, Victory, Jets, and Adelaide seem to be falling behind.

Unknown editor edited January 06, 2024 11:14
 Think it's a mixture of a couple of things.

The Phoenix have some unique facilities, like they have a training studio which can simulate altitude, humidity, and temperature anywhere in the world at any time of the year. Or, they have pools with exercise equipment in them with windows where the trainers and physios can work with people while they're not under load.

They also have normal facilities which are just better than the other teams, like they have precise temperature controlled hot and cold plunge pools and multiple types of saunas and a room that gets really bloody cold.

In comparison, before City opened their new training facility they were using wheely bins full of ice water for their ice baths. IIRC Sydney use a universities facilities.

Edit: I just googled and in August last year Sydney moved into a new facility at Macquire University that they claim is the best in Australia (although all teams always claim that) - it cost $30 million Australian. Melbourne Cities new facilities also cost $30 million. Melbourne Victory trains on a public ground and uses commercial facilities (much like the Phoenix used to I guess), but tried to build an $18 million dollar elite training centre on another public park, but the council said no. CCMs facilities were supposed to be $100 million all up, but I don't believe they were ever finished. The Wanderers training facilities cost $15 million. The new Western United training facilities cost $25 million. Adelaide Uniteds cost $700,000. Perth Glory's cost $32 million. Brisbane should move into a $22 million dollar facility soon. The Jets use a public athletics centre. MacArthur is building a $38 million dollar facility. By comparison, the NZCIS facility that the Phoenix are in cost $150 million NZ so there's a substantial difference in budget that will flow on to quality. 

Unknown editor edited January 06, 2024 11:08
 Think it's a mixture of a couple of things.

The Phoenix have some unique facilities, like they have a training studio which can simulate altitude, humidity, and temperature anywhere in the world at any time of the year. Or, they have pools with exercise equipment in them with windows where the trainers and physios can work with people while they're not under load.

They also have normal facilities which are just better than the other teams, like they have precise temperature controlled hot and cold plunge pools and multiple types of saunas and a room that gets really bloody cold.

In comparison, before City opened their new training facility they were using wheely bins full of ice water for their ice baths. IIRC Sydney use a universities facilities.

Edit: I just googled and in August last year Sydney moved into a new facility at Macquire University that they claim is the best in Australia (although all teams always claim that) - it cost $30 million Australian. Melbourne Cities new facilities also cost $30 million. Melbourne Victory trains on a public ground and uses commercial facilities (much like the Phoenix used to I guess), but tried to build an $18 million dollar elite training centre on another public park, but the council said no. CCMs facilities were supposed to be $100 million all up, but I don't believe they were ever finished. The Wanderers training facilities cost $15 million. The new Western United training facilities cost $25 million. Adelaide Uniteds cost $700,000. Perth Glory's cost $32 million. Brisbane should move into a $22 million dollar facility soon. By comparison, the NZCIS facility that the Phoenix are in cost $150 million NZ so there's a substantial difference in budget that will flow on to quality. 
Unknown editor edited January 06, 2024 11:02
 Think it's a mixture of a couple of things.

The Phoenix have some unique facilities, like they have a training studio which can simulate altitude, humidity, and temperature anywhere in the world at any time of the year. Or, they have pools with exercise equipment in them with windows where the trainers and physios can work with people while they're not under load.

They also have normal facilities which are just better than the other teams, like they have precise temperature controlled hot and cold plunge pools and multiple types of saunas and a room that gets really bloody cold.

In comparison, before City opened their new training facility they were using wheely bins full of ice water for their ice baths. IIRC Sydney use a universities facilities.

Edit: I just googled and in August last year Sydney moved into a new facility at Macquire University that they claim is the best in Australia (although all teams always claim that) - it cost $30 million Australian. Melbourne Cities new facilities also cost $30 million. Melboure Victory trains on a public ground and uses commercial facilities (much like the Phoenix used to I guess), but tried to build an $18 million dollar elite training centre on another public park, but the council said no. CCMs facilities were supposed to be $100 million all up, but I don't believe they were ever finished. The Wanderers training facilities cost $15 million. The new Western United training facilities cost $25 million. Adelaide Uniteds cost $700,000. Perth Glory's cost $32 million. Brisbane should move into va $22 million dollar facility soon. By comparison, the NZCIS facility that the Phoenix are in cost $150 million NZ so there's a substantial difference in budget that will flow on to quality. 
Unknown editor edited January 06, 2024 11:00
 Think it's a mixture of a couple of things.

The Phoenix have some unique facilities, like they have a training studio which can simulate altitude, humidity, and temperature anywhere in the world at any time of the year. Or, they have pools with exercise equipment in them with windows where the trainers and physios can work with people while they're not under load.

They also have normal facilities which are just better than the other teams, like they have precise temperature controlled hot and cold plunge pools and multiple types of saunas and a room that gets really bloody cold.

In comparison, before City opened their new training facility they were using wheely bins full of ice water for their ice baths. IIRC Sydney use a universities facilities.

Edit: I just googled and in August last year Sydney moved into a new facility at Macquire University that they claim is the best in Australia (although all teams always claim that) - it cost $30 million Australian. Melbourne Cities new facilities also cost $30 million. Melboure Victory trains on a public ground and uses commercial facilities (much like the Phoenix used to I guess), but tried to build an $18 million dollar elite training centre on another public park, but the council said no. CCMs facilities were supposed to be $100 million all up, but I don't believe they were ever finished. The Wanderers training facilities cost $15 million. The new Western United training facilities cost $25 million. Adelaide Uniteds cost $700,000. Perth Glory's cost $32 million. Brisbane should move into va $22 million dollar facility doon. By comparison, the NZCIS facility that the Phoenix are in cost $150 million NZ so there's a substantial difference in budget that will flow on to quality. 
Unknown editor edited January 06, 2024 10:59
 Think it's a mixture of a couple of things.

The Phoenix have some unique facilities, like they have a training studio which can simulate altitude, humidity, and temperature anywhere in the world at any time of the year. Or, they have pools with exercise equipment in them with windows where the trainers and physios can work with people while they're not under load.

They also have normal facilities which are just better than the other teams, like they have precise temperature controlled hot and cold plunge pools and multiple types of saunas and a room that gets really bloody cold.

In comparison, before City opened their new training facility they were using wheely bins full of ice water for their ice baths. IIRC Sydney use a universities facilities.

Edit: I just googled and in August last year Sydney moved into a new facility at Macquire University that they claim is the best in Australia (although all teams always claim that) - it cost $30 million Australian. Melbourne Cities new facilities also cost $30 million. Melboure Victory trains on a public ground and uses commercial facilities (much like the Phoenix used to I guess), but tried to build an $18 million dollar elite training centre on another public park, but the council said no. CCMs facilities were supposed to be $100 million all up, but I don't believe they were ever finished. The Wanderers training facilities cost $15 million. The new Western United training facilities cost $25 million. Adelaide Uniteds cost $700,000. Perth Glory's cost $32 million. By comparison, the NZCIS facility that the Phoenix are in cost $150 million NZ so there's a substantial difference in budget that will flow on to quality. 
Unknown editor edited January 06, 2024 10:56
 Think it's a mixture of a couple of things.

The Phoenix have some unique facilities, like they have a training studio which can simulate altitude, humidity, and temperature anywhere in the world at any time of the year. Or, they have pools with exercise equipment in them with windows where the trainers and physios can work with people while they're not under load.

They also have normal facilities which are just better than the other teams, like they have precise temperature controlled hot and cold plunge pools and multiple types of saunas and a room that gets really bloody cold.

In comparison, before City opened their new training facility they were using wheely bins full of ice water for their ice baths. IIRC Sydney use a universities facilities.

Edit: I just googled and in August last year Sydney moved into a new facility at Macquire University that they claim is the best in Australia (although all teams always claim that) - it cost $30 million Australian. Melbourne Cities new facilities also cost $30 million. Melboure Victory trains on a public ground and uses commercial facilities (much like the Phoenix used to I guess), but tried to build an $18 million dollar elite training centre on another public park, but the council said no. CCMs facilities were supposed to be $100 million all up, but I don't believe they were ever finished. The Wanderers training facilities cost $15 million. The new Western United training facilities cost $25 million. Adelaide Uniteds cost $700,000. Perth Glor 's cost $32 million. By comparison, the NZCIS facility that the Phoenix are in cost $150 million NZ so there's a substantial difference in budget that will flow on to quality. 
Unknown editor edited January 06, 2024 10:55
 Think it's a mixture of a couple of things.

The Phoenix have some unique facilities, like they have a training studio which can simulate altitude, humidity, and temperature anywhere in the world at any time of the year. Or, they have pools with exercise equipment in them with windows where the trainers and physios can work with people while they're not under load.

They also have normal facilities which are just better than the other teams, like they have precise temperature controlled hot and cold plunge pools and multiple types of saunas and a room that gets really bloody cold.

In comparison, before City opened their new training facility they were using wheely bins full of ice water for their ice baths. IIRC Sydney use a universities facilities.

Edit: I just googled and in August last year Sydney moved into a new facility at Macquire University that they claim is the best in Australia (although all teams always claim that) - it cost $30 million Australian. Melbourne Cities new facilities also cost $30 million. Melboure Victory trains on a public ground and uses commercial facilities (much like the Phoenix used to I guess), but tried to build an $18 million dollar elite training centre on another public park, but the council said no. CCMs facilities were supposed to be $100 million all up, but I don't believe they were ever finished. The Wanderers training facilities cost $15 million. The new Western United training facilities cost $25 million. Adelaide Uniteds cost $700,000. By comparison, the NZCIS facility that the Phoenix are in cost $150 million NZ so there's a substantial difference in budget that will flow on to quality. 
Unknown editor edited January 06, 2024 10:52
 Think it's a mixture of a couple of things.

The Phoenix have some unique facilities, like they have a training studio which can simulate altitude, humidity, and temperature anywhere in the world at any time of the year. Or, they have pools with exercise equipment in them with windows where the trainers and physios can work with people while they're not under load.

They also have normal facilities which are just better than the other teams, like they have precise temperature controlled hot and cold plunge pools and multiple types of saunas and a room that gets really bloody cold.

In comparison, before City opened their new training facility they were using wheely bins full of ice water for their ice baths. IIRC Sydney use a universities facilities.

Edit: I just googled and in August last year Sydney moved into a new facility at Macquire University that they claim is the best in Australia (although all teams always claim that) - it cost $30 million Australian. Melbourne Cities new facilities also cost $30 million. Melboure Victory trains on a public ground and uses commercial facilities (much like the Phoenix used to I guess), but tried to build an $18 million dollar elite training centre on another public park, but the council said no. CCMs facilities were supposed to be $100 million all up, but I don't believe they were ever finished. The Wanderers training facilities cost $15 million. The new Western United training facilities cost $25 million. By comparison, the NZCIS facility that the Phoenix are in cost $150 million NZ so there's a substantial difference in budget that will flow on to quality. 
Unknown editor edited January 06, 2024 10:48
 Think it's a mixture of a couple of things.

The Phoenix have some unique facilities, like they have a training studio which can simulate altitude, humidity, and temperature anywhere in the world at any time of the year. Or, they have pools with exercise equipment in them with windows where the trainers and physios can work with people while they're not under load.

They also have normal facilities which are just better than the other teams, like they have precise temperature controlled hot and cold plunge pools and multiple types of saunas and a room that gets really bloody cold.

In comparison, before City opened their new training facility they were using wheely bins full of ice water for their ice baths. IIRC Sydney use a universities facilities.

Edit: I just googled and in August this year Sydney moved into a new facility at Macquire University that they claim is the best in Australia (although all teams always claim that) - it cost $30 million Australian. Melbourne Cities new facilities also cost $30 million. Melboure Victory trains on a public ground and uses commercial facilities (much like the Phoenix used to I guess), but tried to build an $18 million dollar elite training centre on another public park but the council said no. CCMs facilities were supposed to be $100 million all up, but I don't believe they were ever finished. The Wanderers training facilities cost $15 million. The new Western United training facilities cost $25 million. By comparison, the NZCIS facility that the Phoenix are in cost $150 million NZ so there's a substantial difference in budget that will flow on to quality. 
Unknown editor edited January 06, 2024 10:41
 Think it's a mixture of a couple of things.

The Phoenix have some unique facilities, like they have a training studio which can simulate altitude, humidity, and temperature anywhere in the world at any time of the year. Or, they have pools with exercise equipment in them with windows where the trainers and physios can work with people while they're not under load.

They also have normal facilities which are just better than the other teams, like they have precise temperature controlled hot and cold plunge pools and multiple types of saunas and a room that gets really bloody cold.

In comparison, before City opened their new training facility they were using wheely bins full of ice water for their ice baths. IIRC Sydney use a universities facilities.

Edit: I just googled and in August this year Sydney moved into a new facility at Macquire University that they claim is the best in Australia (although all teams always claim that) - it cost $30 million Australian. Melbourne Cities new facilities also cost $30 million. Melboure Victory trains on a public ground and uses commercial facilities (much like the Phoenix used to I guess), but tried to build an $18 million dollar elite training centre on another public park but the council said no. CCMs facilities were supposed to be $100 million all up, but I don't believe they were ever finished. The Wanderers training facilities cost $15 million. The new Western United training facilities cost $25 million. By comparison, the NZCIS facility that the Phoenix are in cost $150 million NZ. 
Unknown editor edited January 06, 2024 10:40
 Think it's a mixture of a couple of things.

The Phoenix have some unique facilities, like they have a training studio which can simulate altitude, humidity, and temperature anywhere in the world at any time of the year. Or, they have pools with exercise equipment in them with windows where the trainers and physios can work with people while they're not under load.

They also have normal facilities which are just better than the other teams, like they have precise temperature controlled hot and cold plunge pools and multiple types of saunas and a room that gets really bloody cold.

In comparison, before City opened their new training facility they were using wheely bins full of ice water for their ice baths. IIRC Sydney use a universities facilities.

Edit: I just googled and in August this year Sydney moved into a new facility at Macquire University that they claim is the best in Australia (although all teams always claim that) - it cost $30 million Australia. Melbourne Cities new facilities also cost $30 million. Melboure Victory trains on a public ground and uses commercial facilities (much like the Phoenix used to I guess). CCMs facilities were supposed to be $100 million all up, but I don't believe they were ever finished. The Wanderers training facilities cost $15 million. The new Western United training facilities cost $25 million. By comparison, the NZCIS facility that the Phoenix are in cost $150 million NZ. 
Unknown editor edited January 06, 2024 10:35
 Think it's a mixture of a couple of things.

The Phoenix have some unique facilities, like they have a training studio which can simulate altitude, humidity, and temperature anywhere in the world at any time of the year. Or, they have pools with exercise equipment in them with windows where the trainers and physios can work with people while they're not under load.

They also have normal facilities which are just better than the other teams, like they have precise temperature controlled hot and cold plunge pools and multiple types of saunas and a room that gets really bloody cold.

In comparison, before City opened their new training facility they were using wheely bins full of ice water for their ice baths. IIRC Sydney use a universities facilities.

Edit: I just googled and in August this year Sydney moved into a new facility at Macquire University that they claim is the best in Australia (although all teams always claim that) - it cost $30 million Australia. The NZCIS facility that the Phoenix are in cost $150 million NZ. 
Unknown editor edited January 06, 2024 10:27
 Think it's a mixture of a couple of things.

The Phoenix have some unique facilities, like they have a training studio which can simulate altitude, humidity, and temperature anywhere in the world at any time of the year. Or, they have pools with exercise equipment in them with windows where the trainers and physios can work with people while they're not under load.

They also have normal facilities which are just better than the other teams, like they have precise temperature controlled hot and cold plunge pools and multiple types of saunas and a room that gets really bloody cold.

In comparison, before City opened their new training facility they were using wheely bins full of ice water for their ice baths. IIRC Sydney use a universities facilities.

I just googled and in August this year Sydney moved into a new facility at Macquire University that they claim is the best in Australia (although all teams always claim that) - it cost $30 million Australia. The NZCIS facility that the Phoenix are in cost $150 million NZ. 
Unknown editor edited January 06, 2024 10:26
 Think it's a mixture of a couple of things.

The Phoenix have some unique facilities, like they have a training studio which can simulate altitude, humidity, and temperature anywhere in the world at any time of the year. Or, they have pools with exercise equipment in them with windows where the trainers and physios can work with people while they're not under load.

They also have normal facilities which are just better than the other teams, like they have precise temperature controlled hot and cold plunge pools and multiple types of saunas and a room that gets really bloody cold.

In comparison, before City opened their new training facility they were using wheely bins full of ice water for their ice baths. IIRC Sydney use a universities facilities.

I just googled and Sydney moved into a new facility at Macquire University that they claim is the best in Australia (although all teams always claim that) - it cost $30 million Australia. The NZCIS facility that the Phoenix are in cost $150 million NZ.
Unknown editor edited January 06, 2024 10:25
Think it's a mixture of a couple of things.

The Phoenix have some unique facilities, like they have a training studio which can simulate altitude, humidity, and temperature anywhere in the world at any time of the year. Or, they have pools with exercise equipment in them with windows where the trainers and physios can work with people while they're not under load.

They also have normal facilities which are just better than the other teams, like they have precise temperature controlled hot and cold plunge pools and multiple types of saunas and a room that gets really bloody cold.

In comparison, before City opened their new training facility they were using wheely bins full of ice water for their ice baths.
Unknown editor edited January 06, 2024 10:17
Think it's a mixture of a couple of things.

The Phoenix have some unique facilities, like they have a training studio which can simulate altitude, humidity, and temperature anywhere in the world at any time of the year. Or, they have pools with exercise equipment in them with windows where the trainers and physios can work with people while they're not under load.

They also have normal facilities which are just better than the other teams, like they have precise temperature controlled hot and cold plunge pools and sauna and a room that gets really bloody cold.

In comparison, before City opened their new training facility they were using wheely bins full of ice water for their ice baths.
Unknown editor edited January 06, 2024 10:17
Think it's a mixture of a couple of things.

The Phoenix have some unique facilities, like they have a training room which can simulate altitude, humidity, and temperature anywhere in the world at any time of the year. Or, they have pools with exercise equipment in them with windows where the trainers and physios can work with people while they're not under load.

They also have normal facilities which are just better than the other teams, like they have precise temperature controlled hot and cold plunge pools and sauna and a room that gets really bloody cold.

In comparison, before City opened their new training facility they were using wheely bins full of ice water for their ice baths.