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Posted December 30, 2024 01:18 · last edited December 30, 2024 01:21

Ninja
Fenix
djtim3000
Fenix
mjp2
number8
3 Points is positive.
But we may played 10-15min good football and fell back to garbage after the Retre goal.
Piper was free on the side and  waved like a madman, no one passed to him because they know he is not good enough, his touches and simple layoffs are horrible, is this really the best young player in the National league?
I also thought Rufer lost the plot, I can’t remember any decent vertical pass. There is something wrong in this team.

I think we are playing the same style as last year but without the control in midfield that Kraev gave us, nor the extra drive we got from Old. And without quite the authority in defence that Surman and Paulsen gave us. And without the occasional special sauce from Zawada.
Rojas would have made us a better attacking side but he's barely been on the field. And Ishige, Retre and Nagasawa might have proved better than they have shown so far.  

So the same style as last year, with less control, less bite and less authority on defence. And, so far, without the intended benefit of Rojas.

That said, there is still time. We've got a lot of kids getting minutes. Rojas hopefully eventually will get a decent run of games.  If we finish strong we could still have a good season.


I think what you are trying to say, is that without those players and that attitude, we are complete and utter shyte. Todays effort didnt resemble football, or entertainment. No individuality, no surprise, no initiative, no positivity. It was formulaic overcoached crap. 


I don't know how you can say that when our first goal was scored by an individual surprising the goalkeeper with initiative and taking a positive shot when he saw the keeper out of position.

Come on. Barbarouse's moment of skill was obvious and certainly had nothing to with tactics, team plan, and constant backward passing.  Of course it was excellent. The rest of the game wasnt. If anything, it shows what is possible when you are , like, positive, make the most of your opportunities, take shots and put the ball into the box. Unlike the shyte we watched for 88 minutes.

We are unable to play unless the attack starts from the centre half. We pass back to him/them all the time, its the most predictable garbage Ive ever seen. We pass back to the centre half when we have throw ons and free kicks at the penalty box mark. That is negative bollocks. Its dull. Noone wants to watch that. 

Unfortunately it’s tough to disagree with the above.

I watched the CCM vs AFC game played right after we played the Jets.  I liked the positivity of their approach, typical of the Sydney FC school of thought that produced coaching styles of Arnold, Corica, Talay, McFlynn and (yes) Italiano.
I would argue that our defence is no worse than AFC provided Payne is fit and Hughes is lucky. And sure, Paulsen is better than Oluwayemi at this point.
But it is the comparison of the transitions from defence to attack that showed a glaring difference between an energetic approach of the AFC and our somewhat timid attacking (?) passing that goes backwards before it goes forward.  And yet I do not think AFC strikers are necessarily top class; if anything I thought it was the constant creation of potentially threatening moves by AFC (especially by de Vries, Sakai and Gillon) that troubled CCM.   This is regardless of how poor the CCM were; the Jets are not excellent either so watching these two games was pretty telling for me.
I am totally happy with three points, and I am not a purist either; but being pragmatic means knowing if the tactics employed on the field will win us games. At the moment I am not expecting us to reach top six unless something improves.

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Ninja
Fenix
djtim3000
Fenix
mjp2
number8
3 Points is positive.
But we may played 10-15min good football and fell back to garbage after the Retre goal.
Piper was free on the side and  waved like a madman, no one passed to him because they know he is not good enough, his touches and simple layoffs are horrible, is this really the best young player in the National league?
I also thought Rufer lost the plot, I can’t remember any decent vertical pass. There is something wrong in this team.

I think we are playing the same style as last year but without the control in midfield that Kraev gave us, nor the extra drive we got from Old. And without quite the authority in defence that Surman and Paulsen gave us. And without the occasional special sauce from Zawada.
Rojas would have made us a better attacking side but he's barely been on the field. And Ishige, Retre and Nagasawa might have proved better than they have shown so far.  

So the same style as last year, with less control, less bite and less authority on defence. And, so far, without the intended benefit of Rojas.

That said, there is still time. We've got a lot of kids getting minutes. Rojas hopefully eventually will get a decent run of games.  If we finish strong we could still have a good season.


I think what you are trying to say, is that without those players and that attitude, we are complete and utter shyte. Todays effort didnt resemble football, or entertainment. No individuality, no surprise, no initiative, no positivity. It was formulaic overcoached crap. 


I don't know how you can say that when our first goal was scored by an individual surprising the goalkeeper with initiative and taking a positive shot when he saw the keeper out of position.

Come on. Barbarouse's moment of skill was obvious and certainly had nothing to with tactics, team plan, and constant backward passing.  Of course it was excellent. The rest of the game wasnt. If anything, it shows what is possible when you are , like, positive, make the most of your opportunities, take shots and put the ball into the box. Unlike the shyte we watched for 88 minutes.

We are unable to play unless the attack starts from the centre half. We pass back to him/them all the time, its the most predictable garbage Ive ever seen. We pass back to the centre half when we have throw ons and free kicks at the penalty box mark. That is negative bollocks. Its dull. Noone wants to watch that. 

Unfortunately it’s tough to disagree with the above.

I watched the CCM vs AFC game played right after we played the Jets.  I liked the positivity of their approach, typical of the Sydney FC school of thought that produced coaching styles of Arnold, Corica, Talay, McFlynn and (yes) Italiano.
I would argue that our defence is no worse if Payne is fit and Hughes is lucky.
But it is the comparison of the transitions from defence to attack that showed a glaring difference between an energetic approach of the AFC and our somewhat timid attacking (?) passing that might go backwards before it goes forward.  And yet I do not think AFC strikers are necessarily top class; if anything I thought the constant creation of potentially threatening moves by AFC (especially by de Vries, Sakai and Gillon) is what stood out for me.   This is regardless of how poor CC were; the Jets are not excellent either so watching these two games was pretty telling for me.
I am totally happy with three points, and I am not a purist either; but being pragmatic means knowing if the tactics employed on the field will win us games. At the moment I am not expecting us to reach top six unless something improves.