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Posted January 25, 2023 02:03 · last edited January 25, 2023 02:06

FransenFC
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https://impetusfootball.org/2023/01/24/a-guide-to-how-to-be-a-fan-when-your-team-isnt-winning/

"These are not people who are not getting paid much money. These A-League women are making on average about 16k. The men are making approximately 9.4 times this. Female athletes don’t have teams of people protecting their brand and sanity. They are not rolling in the dough either. Be a decent human being and keep perspective on this.
" Calling for anyone’s job mid-season is not the way to go. Coaches and GM’s are professionals. They work their tails off. Unless they are abusive to the players, back off and let them do their job. They have already created immense pressure for themselves."

I dunno, the sentiment of that article is nice enough but it really seems to boil down to treating pro athletes like children rather than pro athletes. Regardless of pay no one is immune from criticism, if I do poorly at my job I'll cop it, and if you want to do a job like being a footballer you have to expect it. With that said all criticism should be fair and measured.

Also the part about not calling for the coaches head because they're professionals is just weird, the fact that they are professionals should mean more scrutiny.

Criticism is part of sports, without it you can't have any expectations or want better.
I agree here, its part of being a professional is critisicm.

But its what encouraging is sensible critisicm. 

Is it the players fault? The systems? The boards fault? Is it an off day or a systematic problem in the team. Most athletes can handle a bad game but lets do it in a way that actually helps the athlete long term. They are peoples friends and family too, theres always a good way to deliver the message

Yea anyone should be open to criticism but it should be constructive and informative.

Sports stars get hit with some nasty criticism, and the usual defence is they get paid well for it.  If the average is 16k that is at best a part time job (less than half a living wage).

I would call them well paid sem-pro's.  A pro should be able to live off the money paid for the thing they are a pro at.  A lot of these women will have some of their days filled with doing another job or something so they can pay their rent etc.

So the pay is very relevant to the expectations of output.  You underpay someone, expect them to A) look elsewhere and B) have other priorities.  If I was making 16k then there would be no expectation that it was my profession.  I would be studying or working elsewhere or something, and that would be the focus.

Edit: Less than half the minimum wage

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FransenFC
Monto
Doloras
https://impetusfootball.org/2023/01/24/a-guide-to-how-to-be-a-fan-when-your-team-isnt-winning/

"These are not people who are not getting paid much money. These A-League women are making on average about 16k. The men are making approximately 9.4 times this. Female athletes don’t have teams of people protecting their brand and sanity. They are not rolling in the dough either. Be a decent human being and keep perspective on this.
" Calling for anyone’s job mid-season is not the way to go. Coaches and GM’s are professionals. They work their tails off. Unless they are abusive to the players, back off and let them do their job. They have already created immense pressure for themselves."

I dunno, the sentiment of that article is nice enough but it really seems to boil down to treating pro athletes like children rather than pro athletes. Regardless of pay no one is immune from criticism, if I do poorly at my job I'll cop it, and if you want to do a job like being a footballer you have to expect it. With that said all criticism should be fair and measured.

Also the part about not calling for the coaches head because they're professionals is just weird, the fact that they are professionals should mean more scrutiny.

Criticism is part of sports, without it you can't have any expectations or want better.
I agree here, its part of being a professional is critisicm.

But its what encouraging is sensible critisicm. 

Is it the players fault? The systems? The boards fault? Is it an off day or a systematic problem in the team. Most athletes can handle a bad game but lets do it in a way that actually helps the athlete long term. They are peoples friends and family too, theres always a good way to deliver the message

Yea anyone should be open to criticism but it should be constructive and informative.

Sports stars get hit with some nasty criticism, and the usual defence is they get paid well for it.  If the average is 16k that is at best a part time job (less than half a living wage).

I would call them well paid sem-pro's.  A pro should be able to live off the money paid for the thing they are a pro at.  A lot of these women will have some of their days filled with doing another job or something so they can pay their rent etc.

So the pay is very relevant to the expectations of output.  You underpay someone, expect them to A) look elsewhere and B) have other priorities.  If I was making 16k then there would be no expectation that it was my profession.  I would be studying or working elsewhere or something, and that would be the focus.