Trying to throw an EX staff member under the bus is beyond sharkhouse.
Andy Martin - All you expect and less
What's the bet that we will now get a report that effectively blames all the problems on Martin
.....or am i just too cynical?
Hope he flips burgers in maccas until he reaches retirement age, he deserves no more.
What did Maccas workers ever do to you to deserve the Martian as a co-worker?
This just now from the NZF Newsletter....
New Zealand Football announced today that CEO Andy Martin is retiring. After more than four years at the helm of New Zealand Football, Mr Martin has decided to retire at the end of the month.
New Zealand Football President Deryck Shaw, in announcing the retirement, acknowledged Mr Martin’s significant contribution to the growth and development of the organisation and the game in New Zealand.
“Andy has provided strong leadership and made a huge difference to New Zealand Football over the past four years, in particular the very strong performance in 2017 as recently presented to our Annual Congress. His commercial acumen and experience has strengthened our organisation’s financial position, and we’d like to thank Andy for his valued contribution.”
Mr Martin was Chief Executive Officer of New Zealand Football from February 2014 to June 2018, during which participation numbers increased from around 135,000 (2014) to more than 150,000 (2018) and a number of other milestones were achieved, including elite women (Football Ferns) achieving equity with elite men (All Whites).
“Andy brought a real commitment to achieving our ambitious participation, financial, match official, coaching and other technical development targets alongside our elite teams performing at international events," said Mr Shaw.
Mr Martin says it is time to hang up his boots.
“It is time to focus on my wife and family and follow my beloved Liverpool FC more intently. I would like to thank the staff of New Zealand Football who have worked tirelessly over the past four years to deliver some outstanding achievements, under sometimes trying circumstances. Football in New Zealand is in good health because of them and they remain undeterred to do a good job for the sport they love”, he says.
New Zealand Football will begin the process of recruiting a new Chief Executive Officer shortly.
Dangerous move by Shaw, putting his name to an endorsement of Martin's work
What an arsehole
http://www.nzfootball.co.nz/newsarticle/64974
During a press conference on 20 June 2018, the Chief Executive Officer of New Zealand Football, Andy Martin, in answer to questions from the media in respect of matters raised by a former New Zealand Football staff member, stated that the matters were linked to a “performance management issue around the individual”.
This statement was factually totally incorrect. There were no performance management issues as they relate to this former New Zealand Football staff member. Quite the opposite.
New Zealand Football are pleased to take this opportunity to apologise to the former New Zealand staff member for making such a statement.
The more I think about this specific part of the affair the more sure I feel that Martin had to have known about the Spain allegations quite early on in the piece, at least before the Japan camp.
It's increasingly clear that Shaw has to go as well. His leadership has been pathetic
Don't worry boy's and girls this lawyer that NZ Football have employed to do the review is so cold she would make a polar bear shivver she will be costing them a fortune. Chairman Shaw will be the first to go then the rest of the board apart from Ormond.Then the coaching staff, this woman has no feelings what so ever.Good luck to those good people that may suffer but it needs to be done.I can't wait to see this tosser Shaw get the boot.
Is what Shaw saying that different to what most boards say when a CEO departs... the reality is no. Its standard practice to thank them for their service, especially when any wrong doing is yet to be confirmed (despite how likely it seems)
If Shaw did say some less than flattering things, and Martin somehow came out of the review clean, he would then be up for slander etc.
I don't know Shaw, but he seems to be acting inline with what other boards have done when a leading staff member has resigned.
Shaw's running for cover looking after his reputation, he's been involved in most of the appointments(sign off) he has to go just a pity Mike Anderson got voted off he's another lawyer that should be held accountable for this shambles.It will be interesting what the witch comes up with. Did Shaw give a time frame.
Shaw's running for cover looking after his reputation, he's been involved in most of the appointments(sign off) he has to go just a pity Mike Anderson got voted off he's another lawyer that should be held accountable for this shambles.It will be interesting what the witch comes up with. Did Shaw give a time frame.
Expectation is 2 months
Don't worry boy's and girls this lawyer that NZ Football have employed to do the review is so cold she would make a polar bear shivver she will be costing them a fortune. Chairman Shaw will be the first to go then the rest of the board apart from Ormond.Then the coaching staff, this woman has no feelings what so ever.Good luck to those good people that may suffer but it needs to be done.I can't wait to see this tosser Shaw get the boot.
The whole board? What exactly has Johanna Wood done to draw the ire of everyone? The woman has only been there a couple of weeks; barely had time to put her feet under the desk.
And the coaching staff? Guilty by association? They applied for a job and have carried out that job under instruction of their employers. How exactly does that paint a target on their back? Figueroa a crap bullying corrupt coach is he? Just luck he broke a 10 year monopoly of AK clubs? And Buckingham? Many keen to have him back at the Phoenix a while back but now he's poison?
Nice quote about babies and bath water comes to mind.
Just pull out the noxious weeds, don't spray the whole garden with roundup.
Ok lets keep Wood on the board she along with Ormond might get things moving in the right direction and the coaches must looked at as well.Why they are guilty by association Figueroa Temple have been sacked once already, Buckingham if he was any good would still be at the Phoenix or at Stoke, Turnbull lets see if he come's out of this smelling of roses i doubt it.Lets get Kiwis running and coaching our game not Herafs arse lickers. Lets start afresh.
Don't come back and tell me Figueroa Temple and Buckingham are Kiwis
Ok lets keep Wood on the board she along with Ormond might get things moving in the right direction and the coaches must looked at as well.Why they are guilty by association Figueroa Temple have been sacked once already, Buckingham if he was any good would still be at the Phoenix or at Stoke, Turnbull lets see if he come's out of this smelling of roses i doubt it.Lets get Kiwis running and coaching our game not Herafs arse lickers. Lets start afresh.
Don't come back and tell me Figueroa Temple and Buckingham are Kiwis
Those names are some of the more successful coaches in NZ at the moment. They have spent a good period of time here, they understand football culture in NZ, which Heraf did not, and if their only crime is being born in a different country then that seems like a terrible reason to fire them, let alone an illegal one.
You still haven't made a coherent point against the coaches other than "they're foreign and they've changed jobs in the past". I think this review maaay go a little more in depth than that (thank god).
Ok lets keep Wood on the board she along with Ormond might get things moving in the right direction and the coaches must looked at as well.Why they are guilty by association Figueroa Temple have been sacked once already, Buckingham if he was any good would still be at the Phoenix or at Stoke, Turnbull lets see if he come's out of this smelling of roses i doubt it.Lets get Kiwis running and coaching our game not Herafs arse lickers. Lets start afresh.
Don't come back and tell me Figueroa Temple and Buckingham are Kiwis
Figueira an Temple were 'sacked' under Hudson and Martin's watch.
I must have missed the discussion where you were arguing Hudson and Martin had a clue between them.
And I don't care whether they, Turnbull, Birnie, Schmid or any NZF coaches are Kiwis. I care they understand Kiwi sporting culture and teach these kids to play a worthwhile brand of football.
Lets get Kiwis running and coaching our game not Herafs arse lickers. Lets start afresh.
Don't come back and tell me Figueroa Temple and Buckingham are Kiwis
I am stick to death of these kind of comments.
There are some phenomenal expats involved in our game doing a great job.
Don't judge them based on Heraf or Martin, and especially leave their nationality out of it.
whom is this shaw guy anyway? Never heard of him before Martin tried to cover up this mess.
What credentials does he have to be the big big boss?
Don't hold your breath for massive change. Despite the usual bitching and moaning of the NZ football community, not a great deal is wrong with the organisation. Sure a few notable issues with selection of people in key positions but nothing spectacular gin terms of organisational governance.
The whole football ferns thing came down to choosing the wrong guy - which can be touch and go anyway given who we are, where we are, and the constraints we work under. It was compounded by making the same guy the coach of the ferns and that proved to be fatal, but even though against FIFA guidelines, made sense if we were trying to save money. Most of us/you bitch and moan at the increasing number of fish heads we employ anyway. The fax not being watched thing is a little oversight that was more than likely down to an office level oversight/ignorance. Anyway Martin has gone as payment for those sins.
Some quite major "wins" from the organisation - the whole equality thing, the near qualification for the world cup, there was some award in there too for the way they ran the show.
There will be some gradoise statements made and recommendations from the reviewer to show she has made a difference and Heraf will probably go to a new job somewhere before the review comes out. Then we will be back to normal, we'll hire a couple of new people and we can all go back to bitchinv about we should of hired so and so because they are either local and understand the kiwi psyche or should of been foreign because we ard too entrenched in the methods of British football etc etc yawn....
Our hosting of the U20 world cup was also a success.
Don't hold your breath for massive change. Despite the usual bitching and moaning of the NZ football community, not a great deal is wrong with the organisation. Sure a few notable issues with selection of people in key positions but nothing spectacular gin terms of organisational governance.
The whole football ferns thing came down to choosing the wrong guy - which can be touch and go anyway given who we are, where we are, and the constraints we work under. It was compounded by making the same guy the coach of the ferns and that proved to be fatal, but even though against FIFA guidelines, made sense if we were trying to save money. Most of us/you bitch and moan at the increasing number of fish heads we employ anyway. The fax not being watched thing is a little oversight that was more than likely down to an office level oversight/ignorance. Anyway Martin has gone as payment for those sins.
Some quite major "wins" from the organisation - the whole equality thing, the near qualification for the world cup, there was some award in there too for the way they ran the show.
There will be some gradoise statements made and recommendations from the reviewer to show she has made a difference and Heraf will probably go to a new job somewhere before the review comes out. Then we will be back to normal, we'll hire a couple of new people and we can all go back to bitchinv about we should of hired so and so because they are either local and understand the kiwi psyche or should of been foreign because we ard too entrenched in the methods of British football etc etc yawn....
Have to agree from the outside looking in. People seem to ignore the inherent challenges of trying to run NZ football with next to no support.
Don't hold your breath for massive change. Despite the usual bitching and moaning of the NZ football community, not a great deal is wrong with the organisation. Sure a few notable issues with selection of people in key positions but nothing spectacular gin terms of organisational governance.
The whole football ferns thing came down to choosing the wrong guy - which can be touch and go anyway given who we are, where we are, and the constraints we work under. It was compounded by making the same guy the coach of the ferns and that proved to be fatal, but even though against FIFA guidelines, made sense if we were trying to save money. Most of us/you bitch and moan at the increasing number of fish heads we employ anyway. The fax not being watched thing is a little oversight that was more than likely down to an office level oversight/ignorance. Anyway Martin has gone as payment for those sins.
Some quite major "wins" from the organisation - the whole equality thing, the near qualification for the world cup, there was some award in there too for the way they ran the show.
There will be some gradoise statements made and recommendations from the reviewer to show she has made a difference and Heraf will probably go to a new job somewhere before the review comes out. Then we will be back to normal, we'll hire a couple of new people and we can all go back to bitchinv about we should of hired so and so because they are either local and understand the kiwi psyche or should of been foreign because we ard too entrenched in the methods of British football etc etc yawn....
We did not nearly qualify for the World Cup
62 minutes isnt that far is it?
62 minutes isnt that far is it?
How do you figure that? It's not as if we had an active result that was taking us to the World Cup with 62 minutes left in the overall tie.
Well beaten over two legs, we didn't score and barely had a shot on target
Heraf probably thought it was superb.
62 minutes isnt that far is it?
How do you figure that? It's not as if we had an active result that was taking us to the World Cup with 62 minutes left in the overall tie.
I wouldn’t say we nearly qualified, but nor would I say we were well beaten. I was at both games. We had the 5th team in South America nervous as hell at times, but only when a half fit Wood was on the park.
We did better than expected. Anyone who thinks otherwise is smoking crack. The 2nd Peru goal effectively killed the tie. Having Wood virtually hamstrung was the real tragedy, but that’s sport sometimes.
I think we deserved to lose over both legs, however I will die wondering what would have happened if that Ryan Thomas shot had gone in in the dying stages of the first leg.
I was just very disappointed that Wood wasn't fit for it. I thought we would've had a real, honest chance if he was. Lots of what ifs, though, and they didn't have Paolo Guerrero either.
not his fault he was injured but yeah that was a real bummer alright
What is nearly qualifying then? If being 1 win away from qualifying is not nearly..........
What is nearly qualifying then? If being 1 win away from qualifying is not nearly..........
Australia being 2-0 up against Iran at MCG, conceding 2 late goals to lose tie on away goals.
What is nearly qualifying then? If being 1 win away from qualifying is not nearly..........
Australia being 2-0 up against Iran at MCG, conceding 2 late goals to lose tie on away goals.
What is nearly qualifying then? If being 1 win away from qualifying is not nearly..........
Australia being 2-0 up against Iran at MCG, conceding 2 late goals to lose tie on away goals.
that's called choking. We were nearly there but couldn't get tot he finish line.
We couldn't have gotten over the finish line because only we manufactured one really decent chance over two legs, Ryan's post thwack and managed absolutely ZERO shots on target at the Westpac.
In Peru we got immensely luck with Reid's handball in the box early on (thank christ no VAR) and they battered the crossbar. We also, again, managed ZERO shots on target.
We didn't get battered, but that's because Hudsonball is about defending first and attacking - er - at some point. This idea that we were in it only holds up because we were playing not to lose, instead of to win.
That and Hudson had spent years testing all these players, but basically relying on Wood to score all the goals - when Wood was injured, he literally didn't have another option that was effective. That's why we got 16 minutes of him at the Westpac and 44 minutes in Peru - but those 44 minutes in Peru were when we were already a goal down, and the rest of the team had played 3 halves of football in a short time frame, and he wasn't 100% fit.
Yes for sure got lucky with Reid not called for a pen. However Kosta could have earned a pen in the first minute, in what to me was 50:50 call but that’s from the bleachers at Estadio Lima and I’ve never seen a replay of that moment.
Wood also headed straight at the keeper, but was called for a foul. He also had a royal chance late when through on goal, but shot wide. Who really knows what would have happened had he been fit. The AWs staff had hoped he may be better shape to start 2nd game but not to be.
You could debate Huddo’s tactics til the cows come home, but to me he got it right. AWs have a very limited side outside top 4-5 overseas pros, fleeced out with journeymen at the time from A League and USL levels.
Once Wood was injured the options were severely limited, though I think Brockie should have been taken to Confeds Cup for a looksee, as he was in red hot form at the time in South Africa (another weak league). I think Hudson brought him back into the squad for Japan game, but to me that was too late. Still when your next best striker was Brocks, you are scrapping the barrel.
Optimistic that in 3 years time will have greater depth.
I'm pretty excited about how our team might look in a few years, though there seems to be a complete dearth of defenders coming through; we've gone from only producing burly CBs to only producing small tricky wingers.
Can't believe some of the above posts on this thread.
The bottom line he dropped the ball on many occasions and the last dropsy involved a character assassination
However legally it wasn't enough to fire his sorry ass so he retired and got a masssive payout.
Now if any other person retires then they don't get a pay out in the private sector and it sure as hell was not in his contract so I think the football public need to be told exactly why he was allowed to use that line if money changed hands.
In Peru we got immensely luck with Reid's handball in the box early on (thank christ no VAR) and they battered the crossbar. We also, again, managed ZERO shots on target.
Earlier than that in the first leg, we probably should've had a penalty. We never even saw replays, it has been forever forgotten.
The most embarassing part of this is that Martin, at one point, thought Hudson was in with a chance of ther Derby job. Both a bunch of ass clowns.