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Makes you wonder how many of those were intrested/available at the time. 

Apparently Sermanni has a very good reputation.  

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Big Pete 65 wrote:

Five candidates applying to coach the Ferns:

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/football/nz-teams/10...

My money would be on either former Matildas and USA coach Tom Sermanni or Czech woman Klipkova.

Both have lived in NZ before, Klipkova briefly taking our u-17's a few years ago, while Scottish-born Sermanni played for Christchurch United in our national league in the early 1980's.

Sermanni has most recently been coaching Orlando Pride in the National Women's Soccer League in the USA 2015 -2017, a side including some of the best female players in the world like Marta and Alex Morgan.

Did you read the article as these people had all applied or were on a shortlist that NZF drew up?

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Announcing the new head coach today.

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from Andrew Voerman on Twitter

.@TomSermanni is the new #FootballFerns coach, through to the end of next year’s World Cup in France.

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Former Football Ferns coach Allan Jones, former players Michele Cox and Kristy Hill, NZF ExCo member Caroline Beaumont, NZF interim CEO Andrew Pragnell and NZF interim TD Andy Boyens comprised the selection panel.

Sermanni, was the most experienced coach on the short list. He took the Australia Matildas in two stints from 1994-96 and from 2005-12. He has also coached the United States women's team from 2013-14. Most recently, he coached the Orlando Pride for three seasons in the United States' National Women's Soccer League, achieving a best finish of third in 2017. He left my mutual decision at the end of the season in September.

There is an argument for Jitka Klimková missing out. She started out with her home nation's under-19 team in 2009, before taking over Canberra United in Australia's W-League from 2011-2013, winning the both the regular season and grand final in her first season in charge. After missing the playoffs in her second season in charge, she moved across the ditch to take the New Zealand under-17s for a year. The United States' women's programme then came calling in 2015, where she has served as the under-19 and under-20 coach for the past three years.

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Got to be pretty happy with this selection. Yes Klimkova would have also been a popular pick, But Sermanni has the background and experience in womens international football and NZ football to take this team to the world cup in france next year. Apparently he even played football for Christchurch united back in the day. And has lots of links back to football in this region.

Would be interesting, how well he knows some of the current ferns squad. Not alot but a few are playing in the NWSL where he has most recently been coaching. And does he know personally / has he been talking to Abbey Erceg. Is his selection as coach enough to bring her back into the fold.

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Sermanni's good but old school, Klimkova would have been my pick. Matildas under Sermanni where just another football side that under achieved at world cups. But he does know Oceania and he does have international experience just don't expect a attacking football Ferns side more of a defensive counter attacking team.  Just not a fluid style of play. 

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Ranix wrote:

Got to be pretty happy with this selection. Yes Klimkova would have also been a popular pick, But Sermanni has the background and experience in womens international football and NZ football to take this team to the world cup in france next year. Apparently he even played football for Christchurch united back in the day. And has lots of links back to football in this region.

Would be interesting, how well he knows some of the current ferns squad. Not alot but a few are playing in the NWSL where he has most recently been coaching. And does he know personally / has he been talking to Abbey Erceg. Is his selection as coach enough to bring her back into the fold.

Do we want her back though? I think she comes across as a bit of a premadonna and maybe destablising to the team. There's clearly a rift in the squad that need sorting of which she may or may not be a part of.

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Gregorius had some great words to say about Sermanni, she was the player lured out of retirement with Erceg so hopefully Grego can put a word in her ear about coming back. Personally I think Erceg's our best player, and one of the best women's defenders not playing in Europe, so would be a huge coup having her back. I do get a primadonna vibe a la Payet but that's not to take away from her ability

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Marto wrote:

Ranix wrote:

Got to be pretty happy with this selection. Yes Klimkova would have also been a popular pick, But Sermanni has the background and experience in womens international football and NZ football to take this team to the world cup in france next year. Apparently he even played football for Christchurch united back in the day. And has lots of links back to football in this region.

Would be interesting, how well he knows some of the current ferns squad. Not alot but a few are playing in the NWSL where he has most recently been coaching. And does he know personally / has he been talking to Abbey Erceg. Is his selection as coach enough to bring her back into the fold.

Do we want her back though? I think she comes across as a bit of a premadonna and maybe destablising to the team. There's clearly a rift in the squad that need sorting of which she may or may not be a part of.

really? what she did had a significant on NZF putting in the pay parity deal.

How do you get there is a rift in the squad? one player told Muir she'd like to se Heraf stay - thats one player compared to 12 that complained - thats more a difference of opinion than a rift

Erceg is our best player and she should be back in the team - she's not in this squad though

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Marto wrote:

Ranix wrote:

Got to be pretty happy with this selection. Yes Klimkova would have also been a popular pick, But Sermanni has the background and experience in womens international football and NZ football to take this team to the world cup in france next year. Apparently he even played football for Christchurch united back in the day. And has lots of links back to football in this region.

Would be interesting, how well he knows some of the current ferns squad. Not alot but a few are playing in the NWSL where he has most recently been coaching. And does he know personally / has he been talking to Abbey Erceg. Is his selection as coach enough to bring her back into the fold.

Do we want her back though? I think she comes across as a bit of a premadonna and maybe destablising to the team. There's clearly a rift in the squad that need sorting of which she may or may not be a part of.

really? what she did had a significant on NZF putting in the pay parity deal.

How do you get there is a rift in the squad? one player told Muir she'd like to se Heraf stay - thats one player compared to 12 that complained - thats more a difference of opinion than a rift

Erceg is our best player and she should be back in the team - she's not in this squad though

Of the group that didn’t complain about Heraf, Muir only spoke to one player. She spoke to all 12 players who complained. Muir was then quoted as saying that unfortunately factions may have developed, btwn those who have complained and those that did not. Don’t forget there were 15 other squad members who didn’t for whatever reason, side with the 12 complainants.

She’s no football coach, but will have seen a few similar work place type little messes in the corporate world.

Anyway Sermanni is a very experienced coach - esp in women’s football- so looks well equipped to sort out any off field issues going forward.

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Does anyone else find it strange that the head coach shortlist was released publically?

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Maybe to remove any perception that it might be a closed shop and without transparency.

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I actually like the fact that it was released to the public.

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Yes i don't think it was leaked. I think it was probably intentional to publicly announce the names on the shortlist. Made the process alot more transparent. Was very interesting to see who was available and put there hand up.

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That makes sense.  Pretty unusual though.  I imagine most job candidates would not want it publicly announced that they're on a shortlist.

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Highly rated Matildas (ranked 6th in world women’s football) lose 2-3 to Chile (ranked 39).

Chile have qualified for their first Women’s World Cup next year.

Big crowd in Penrith.

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Great to see the Ferns as the lead item of tv sports news tonight. Good positive article.

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has there been much of a change of backroom staff since the change of coach ?

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has there been much of a change of backroom staff since the change of coach ?

Wendi Henderson and Owain Prosser are assisting but only for the World Cup Qualifying at this stage

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Oska wrote:

Does anyone else find it strange that the head coach shortlist was released publically?

Well looks as if NZF did and they complained to the press council about it

Press council has dismissed complaint and also has a dig at NZF - "The impact on the reputation of NZF (because it could not run a confidential process) is not relevant to this consideration."

http://www.mediacouncil.org.nz/rulings/new-zealand-football-against-stuff

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What time is tonight's game on?

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Oska wrote:

Does anyone else find it strange that the head coach shortlist was released publically?

Well looks as if NZF did and they complained to the press council about it

Press council has dismissed complaint and also has a dig at NZF - "The impact on the reputation of NZF (because it could not run a confidential process) is not relevant to this consideration."

http://www.mediacouncil.org.nz/rulings/new-zealand-football-against-stuff

Very interesting.  Suggests to me that NZF let slip the names to the media, and then (perhaps after a complaint from one of the applicants) realised they had fudgeed up (surprise surprise) and took this route to try and fix it. 
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Oska wrote:

Oska wrote:

Does anyone else find it strange that the head coach shortlist was released publically?

Well looks as if NZF did and they complained to the press council about it

Press council has dismissed complaint and also has a dig at NZF - "The impact on the reputation of NZF (because it could not run a confidential process) is not relevant to this consideration."

http://www.mediacouncil.org.nz/rulings/new-zealand-football-against-stuff

Very interesting.  Suggests to me that NZF let slip the names to the media, and then (perhaps after a complaint from one of the applicants) realised they had fudgeed up (surprise surprise) and took this route to try and fix it. 

Think is a reasonable chance that it was someone at NZF whom let the list of names slip. It was a pretty impressive list, from which Sermanni was picked. So it reflected well on them.

Contrasts well to picking Heraf as the coach, when they didn't advertise the role, and just internally rubber stamped his full time appointment, after he had done the job as a caretaker for a few games. Even if you disregard the disaster of his coaching management, turns out NZF broke some FIFA rules by having their DOF, also as a national team coach.

So letting slip a list of quality candidates would do their image no harm with either the Ferns players or the football public, after the Heraf fiasco.

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Maybe a minority view but not being able to job candidates confidential definitely would do their image harm in my eyes (if they had any positive reputation left), and more importantly could have consequences when recruiting in the future if high quality candidates who are already employed elsewhere decide not to go for NZF jobs because of fears that NZF can't or won't keep things like this confidential.

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coochiee wrote:

FFs goal keeping coach, a tough gig.

forget the GK coach, what about the media guy - just flying drones around and shark... jaunt!!!  lol.

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chopah wrote:

coochiee wrote:

FFs goal keeping coach, a tough gig.

forget the GK coach, what about the media guy - just flying drones around and shark... jaunt!!!  lol.

Actually seems was compiled by 2 of the FFs players - Betsy Hassett (spp) and Ria Percival??

Probably have names wrong but is the 2 players at the end of the vid.

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Group A: France, South Korea, Norway, Nigeria
Group B: Germany, China, Spain, South Africa
Group C: Australia, Italy, Brazil, Jamaica
Group D: England, Scotland, Argentina, Japan
Group E: Canada, Cameroon, New Zealand, Netherlands
Group F: United States, Thailand, Chile, Sweden

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No-one super tough, but no big outsider either. Still four best third-placed teams get through, so one won could be enough to get through to the knock out stage.

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keefy_NZ wrote:

Group A: France, South Korea, Norway, Nigeria
Group B: Germany, China, Spain, South Africa
Group C: Australia, Italy, Brazil, Jamaica
Group D: England, Scotland, Argentina, Japan
Group E: Canada, Cameroon, New Zealand, Netherlands
Group F: United States, Thailand, Chile, Sweden

Toughish group. If they can beat Cameroon and get a draw against the Netherlands or Canada that should be enough to progress.

The kiwis vs Cameroon game is in Montpellier......great news as its only about an hours drive from where i live. Should be no problem getting tickets, its a 25,000 seated ground. Watching the kiwi girls play under the hot summer sun of the South of France...... what else could you wish for?

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This is brilliant, the Ferns will be playing a small tournament in Australia against the Matildas, Argentina and South Korea before they play the World Cup in France.

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/matildas-lock-...

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keefy_NZ wrote:

Group A: France, South Korea, Norway, Nigeria
Group B: Germany, China, Spain, South Africa
Group C: Australia, Italy, Brazil, Jamaica
Group D: England, Scotland, Argentina, Japan
Group E: Canada, Cameroon, New Zealand, Netherlands
Group F: United States, Thailand, Chile, Sweden

Almost the same group as the last world cup. From memory the ferns had Canada and the Netherlands in there group last time also. Lost to the dutch and drew with Canada i think. China was the other team.

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Yakcall wrote:

This is brilliant, the Ferns will be playing a small tournament in Australia against the Matildas, Argentina and South Korea before they play the World Cup in France.

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/matildas-lock-...

absolutely brilliant, if only NZF could manage to get the men's team some games as well.

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Wasn't sure where to put this ...
Not sure if it is a 'go' at Ole for not really being behind NZF and its playing style or whether it is propoganda from Ole? ;)

http://www.nzfootball.co.nz/newsarticle/71834

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Wasn't sure where to put this ...
Not sure if it is a 'go' at Ole for not really being behind NZF and its playing style or whether it is propoganda from Ole? ;)

http://www.nzfootball.co.nz/newsarticle/71834

Reading the article, I think you are looking for some angle that doesn't exist. 

The Foundation invited a few promising female players from Ole (an academy based in the Wellington region), to the biggest women's football game in Wellington in years. Being a chance to inspire these young girls by seeing their heroes up close. Seems as simple as that.

I don't follow the women's game much, but thankfully does look to be free of the political BS that soo plagues the men's game in NZ. That's what other informed posters have stated on here anyway.

The irony being, that after watching that game, Declan would have told the girls to forget everything they saw!

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Surely this thread title can be updated now.

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Katie Duncan comes out of retirement

Does this mean her coaching career is on hold? I've loved working with her :(

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