Take it easy guys, do you know how hard it is to get a fax machine repairman these days?
and NZF's OHP has a blown bulb.
Both the above scenario’s suggest the skill of being able to negotiate the opening of the office and turning on electrical equipment …. The unkind and cruel would argue this is beyond NZF senior staff.
OFC: "Listen we all know that you're farked, but fire someone from your staff and throw them under the bus for this schmozzle, and then release a statement saying that OFC are great, and you want to play nicely with all the other children, and we'll bury this and hope that everyone just eventually forgets about it."
NZF: "Deal!"
make that two
Copycat maybe but very similar..well not so similar ... interestingly the argument seems to be about citizenship
http://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/palestine-prote...
Palestine protests East Timor's use of Brazilian players in FIFA World Cup qualifier
Not very similar at all really. Unless you're suggesting that Wynne's reasons for moving to NZ are even remotely similar to a group of Brazilian footballers suddenly landing in East Timor.
Copycat maybe but very similar..well not so similar ... interestingly the argument seems to be about citizenship
http://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/palestine-prote...
Palestine protests East Timor's use of Brazilian players in FIFA World Cup qualifier
Some of those players don't appear to be even remotely close to being eligible. Dodgy as.
with this silence, what are the odds that there has been a kiss and make up between nzf and ofc. The olympic ban stays, nzf promises not to go to the international court, an acceptance that nzf made a mistake and werent trying to wrought the system. both sides rabbit on about working together for the good of football in the region, nzf say there was an error made on their part, fred has accepted blame and already gone yada yada
with this silence, what are the odds that there has been a kiss and make up between nzf and ofc. The olympic ban stays, nzf promises not to go to the international court, an acceptance that nzf made a mistake and werent trying to wrought the system. both sides rabbit on about working together for the good of football in the region, nzf say there was an error made on their part, fred has accepted blame and already gone yada yada
with this silence, what are the odds that there has been a kiss and make up between nzf and ofc. The olympic ban stays, nzf promises not to go to the international court, an acceptance that nzf made a mistake and werent trying to wrought the system. both sides rabbit on about working together for the good of football in the region, nzf say there was an error made on their part, fred has accepted blame and already gone yada yada
with this silence, what are the odds that there has been a kiss and make up between nzf and ofc. The olympic ban stays, nzf promises not to go to the international court, an acceptance that nzf made a mistake and werent trying to wrought the system. both sides rabbit on about working together for the good of football in the region, nzf say there was an error made on their part, fred has accepted blame and already gone yada yada
OFC not going to FIFA and telling them we've been rorting the system for years, leading to a possible NZF suspension from international competition?
I think there has been a big kiss and make up now there are new people in charge, a lot of the baggage will have gone and the environment is probably good to go ahead in a positive manner. I am also assuming that NZF probably think they have stuffed up and this would be the best possible outcome for them. They may well have some proceedural defense but the relationship with OFC is probably more important than Rio in the long term.
I think there has been a big kiss and make up now there are new people in charge, a lot of the baggage will have gone and the environment is probably good to go ahead in a positive manner. I am also assuming that NZF probably think they have stuffed up and this would be the best possible outcome for them. They may well have some proceedural defense but the relationship with OFC is probably more important than Rio in the long term.
Although the chances of qualifying were about a showballs chance in hell, he now has an excuse....
I think there has been a big kiss and make up now there are new people in charge, a lot of the baggage will have gone and the environment is probably good to go ahead in a positive manner. I am also assuming that NZF probably think they have stuffed up and this would be the best possible outcome for them. They may well have some proceedural defense but the relationship with OFC is probably more important than Rio in the long term.
Is it really though? I have a feeling more OFC reps will get pinged for dodgyness based on whats happened in Switzerland and COMENIBOL recently. I'd rather we pushed hard for Rio and put pressure on Chung and his business deals with artificial turf companies that he owns etc.
reckon we are boned given ofc aren't doing a press conference
reckon we are boned given ofc aren't doing a press conference
#shocked
Is it fair to say, that Vanuatu and PNG, purposely waited until after the game to lodged an appeal, knowing
full well that we would be in trouble.
How the heck could we be outsmarted by Vanuatu?
Is it fair to say, that Vanuatu and PNG, purposely waited until after the game to lodged an appeal, knowing
full well that we would be in trouble.
How the heck could we be outsmarted by Vanuatu?
Inside job. #tinfoil #conspiracy
It would make perfect sense, if they were thinking, "Hey NZ's fielding an ineligible player, we should wait
till after they game, if we say something before hand, they might drop him, this way we can appeal any
loss"
piney reporting that we failed.
So when is NZ's Football press coference.
So when is NZ's Football press coference.
Radio New Zealand is reporting, appeal wasnt upheld. :-(
Is there anyway to watch the press conference online?
http://www.oceaniafootball.com/ofc/News/ViewArticl...
After adjourning the meeting on 24 August the OFC Appeals Committee reconvened on the 21 and 22 September to consider New Zealand Football’s Petition of Appeal.
New Zealand Football made an oral submission in support of the Petition of Appeal and following due consideration the committee found that the appeal failed.
I sincerly hope the media doesnt treat Andy Martin with kid gloves.
http://www.nzfootball.co.nz/nzf-statement-ofc-elig...
The decision upheld the original ruling following the protest by the Vanuatu Football Federation regarding Wynne’s eligibility to compete in the competition which also served as the qualifying tournament for the 2016 Olympic Games in Brazil.
New Zealand Football put forward a number of grounds of appeal in its appeal petition. Each of these was dismissed by the Appeals Committee.
New Zealand Football CEO Andy Martin said: “We are very disappointed at this outcome given that we were in compliance with the rules of the competition confirmed to us in advance of the tournament, and our interpretation of the relevant FIFA articles relating to player eligibility.”
Martin said New Zealand Football will now consider its options, including a possible appeal to the Court of Arbitration for Sport.
“The decision around the next course of action will be influenced by a number of factors including the potential grounds for further appeal and the wishes of all affected parties.
“Our players earned the opportunity to qualify for the 2016 Olympic Games and we need to carefully consider all options available to us to secure that chance for them,” Martin added.
New Zealand Football will make no further comment until a press conference to be attended by President Deryck Shaw and CEO Andy Martin at 2pm on Friday 23 October at QBE Stadium.
How the heck could we be outsmarted by Vanuatu?
racist
Seriously Tony Smith?
http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/football/nz-teams/73329689/new-zealand-football-must-appeal-oceania-footballs-decision-to-uphold-olympic-ban.html
Seriously Tony Smith?
http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/football/nz-teams/73329689/new-zealand-football-must-appeal-oceania-footballs-decision-to-uphold-olympic-ban.html
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Napier, I think it's time to as they say wake up and smell the roses
Thanks for your usual insightful thoughts AP
well logic hasn't worked so just thought it was time that you were told
Leaving aside the fact (or widely held opinion, if you prefer) that NZF have well and truly been demonstrated to be in the wrong here, Tony Smith himself implies in the article that this is the case, but still suggests that valuable and limited resources be wasted on an appeal that is likely to lead absolutely nowhere. That seems like complete idiocy to me.
Leaving aside the fact (or widely held opinion, if you prefer) that NZF have well and truly been demonstrated to be in the wrong here, Tony Smith himself implies in the article that this is the case, but still suggests that valuable and limited resources be wasted on an appeal that is likely to lead absolutely nowhere. That seems like complete idiocy to me.
Obviously NZF consider the income and prestige at appearing at Rio next year more important than worrying about the costs associated with getting there rightly or wrongly.
Leaving aside the fact (or widely held opinion, if you prefer) that NZF have well and truly been demonstrated to be in the wrong here, Tony Smith himself implies in the article that this is the case, but still suggests that valuable and limited resources be wasted on an appeal that is likely to lead absolutely nowhere. That seems like complete idiocy to me.
NZ football need to be completely up front and transparent here and indicate how much this appeal cost.
Then give a indication on his much a further appeal would cost.
The fact they were not completely honest and transparent in the first place selecting the player and obviously many others doesn't give me confidence they will do neither however
if they think they are right or have a good chance of a reversal, then the cost factor will be relatively immaterial in my view. sometimes you have to make a stand, and i know most posters think they are wrong and just suck it up.
Correct, if you were innocent of crimes you don't have to bend over and take it from anyone
In this case however we are guilty and should be on the run
