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ajc28 wrote:

Out of interest how do you sign up to Kayo and Optus from here? Do you not need an Australian address and does Optus not use a set to box?

Not sure if an Aus address is required sorry but for Optus Sport you can use an app or their website to stream, no box required. 

October 15, 2019 13:27
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Groff wrote:

ajc28 wrote:

Out of interest how do you sign up to Kayo and Optus from here? Do you not need an Australian address and does Optus not use a set to box?

Not sure if an Aus address is required sorry but for Optus Sport you can use an app or their website to stream, no box required. 

No, you don't need a box at all. But you do need a VPN or Smart DNS service. I use smartdnsproxy.com (around $4 a month) and an Apple TV and it's a pretty simple process.

Kayo

You can sign up online and use a NZ credit card, they do however send a verification code to an Australian mobile only, so i asked one of my work colleagues if she wouldn't mind if i used hers and forwarded me the code. Has worked almost flawlessly for me in the 5-6 months i've had it.

Optus 

Is a bit more difficult, as you can't pay by credit card, only iTunes and then only Aussie iTunes, so i use a site that sells itunes vouchers/gift cards from different countries and then apply it to my AU iTunes account

October 16, 2019 10:09
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Thanks for that. Had a quick look on Optus website and it was talking about a Fetch set top box but that must be optional. Little bit tricky needing access to Australian mobile number and iTunes account but something to keep in mind anyway.

October 16, 2019 11:38
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Must say if you can get past the VPN and phone number issues AJC, it's definitely worth your while! The Kayo platform is excellent and I get Optus Sport with my mobile plan which is also very good.

They both give the option to start from the beginning or live with no spoilers, are on demand instantly and most sports matches get 24min mini-matches as highlights on within a couple of hours.

October 16, 2019 12:55
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Discussions happening this week by the EPL towards a plan to comlere the league this season:

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/football/world-game/120985216/92-games-in-35-days-english-premier-leagues-ambitious-plan-to-finish-season

"... there remains hope that play could resume in June. The clubs will hold their latest conference call on Friday, with the issue high on the agenda amid fears that matches might have to take place behind closed doors until November."

Two games per week likely over 35 days.

Doubts over whether it will be possible to televise all the games.

April 13, 2020 12:22
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Has Spark Sport Listed this yet.

Full schedule  - UK Times

Weds 17th June

Aston Villa vs Sheffield United (6pm) Sky Sports

Man City vs Arsenal (8:15pm) Sky Sports

Fri 19th June

Norwich vs Southampton (6pm) Sky Sports

Tottenham vs Manchester United (8:15pm) Sky Sports

Sat 20th June

Watford vs Leicester (12.30pm) BT Sport

Brighton vs Arsenal (3pm) BT Sport

West Ham vs Wolves (5.30pm) Sky Sports

Bournemouth vs Crystal Palace (7.45pm) BBC

Sun 21st June

Newcastle vs Sheffield United (2pm) Sky Sports

Aston Villa vs Chelsea (4.15pm) Sky Sports

Everton vs Liverpool (7pm) Sky Sports

Mon 22nd June

Man City vs Burnley (8pm) Sky Sports

Tues 23rd June

Leicester vs Brighton (6pm) Sky Sports

Tottenham vs West Ham (8.15pm) Sky Sports

Weds 24th June

Manchester United vs Sheffield United (6pm) Sky Sports

Newcastle vs Aston Villa (6pm) BT Sport

Norwich vs Everton (6pm) BBC

Wolves vs Bournemouth (6pm) BT Sport

Liverpool vs Crystal Palace (8.15pm) Sky Sports

Thurs 25th June

Burnley vs Watford (6pm) Sky Sports

Southampton vs Arsenal (6pm) Sky Sports

Chelsea vs Man City (8.15pm) BT Sport

Sat 27th June

Aston Villa vs Wolves (12:30pm) BT Sport

Sun 28th June

Watford vs Southampton (4.30pm) Sky Sports

Mon 29th June

Crystal Palace vs Burnley (8pm) Amazon Prime

Tues 30th June

Brighton vs Manchester United (8:15pm) Sky Sports

Weds 1st July

Arsenal vs Norwich (6pm) BT Sport

Bournemouth vs Newcastle (6pm) Sky Sports

Everton vs Leicester (6pm) Sky Sports

West Ham vs Chelsea (8.15pm) Sky Sports

Thurs 2nd July

Sheffield United vs Tottenham (6pm) Sky Sports

Man City vs Liverpool (8.15pm) Sky Sports

June 09, 2020 10:52
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so are the games listed under sky sport, eg man city arsenal available on regular NZ skysport or do I need a spark sport account??

June 09, 2020 13:16
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Premier League hasn't been on Sky Sport for years now.

June 09, 2020 13:31
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Does this mean Sky in the UK?

June 09, 2020 14:33
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Blew.2 wrote:

Has Spark Sport Listed this yet.

Full schedule  - UK Times

Weds 17th June

Aston Villa vs Sheffield United (6pm) Sky Sports

Man City vs Arsenal (8:15pm) Sky Sports

Fri 19th June

Norwich vs Southampton (6pm) Sky Sports

Tottenham vs Manchester United (8:15pm) Sky Sports

Sat 20th June

Watford vs Leicester (12.30pm) BT Sport

Brighton vs Arsenal (3pm) BT Sport

West Ham vs Wolves (5.30pm) Sky Sports

Bournemouth vs Crystal Palace (7.45pm) BBC

Sun 21st June

Newcastle vs Sheffield United (2pm) Sky Sports

Aston Villa vs Chelsea (4.15pm) Sky Sports

Everton vs Liverpool (7pm) Sky Sports

Mon 22nd June

Man City vs Burnley (8pm) Sky Sports

Tues 23rd June

Leicester vs Brighton (6pm) Sky Sports

Tottenham vs West Ham (8.15pm) Sky Sports

Weds 24th June

Manchester United vs Sheffield United (6pm) Sky Sports

Newcastle vs Aston Villa (6pm) BT Sport

Norwich vs Everton (6pm) BBC

Wolves vs Bournemouth (6pm) BT Sport

Liverpool vs Crystal Palace (8.15pm) Sky Sports

Thurs 25th June

Burnley vs Watford (6pm) Sky Sports

Southampton vs Arsenal (6pm) Sky Sports

Chelsea vs Man City (8.15pm) BT Sport

Sat 27th June

Aston Villa vs Wolves (12:30pm) BT Sport

Sun 28th June

Watford vs Southampton (4.30pm) Sky Sports

Mon 29th June

Crystal Palace vs Burnley (8pm) Amazon Prime

Tues 30th June

Brighton vs Manchester United (8:15pm) Sky Sports

Weds 1st July

Arsenal vs Norwich (6pm) BT Sport

Bournemouth vs Newcastle (6pm) Sky Sports

Everton vs Leicester (6pm) Sky Sports

West Ham vs Chelsea (8.15pm) Sky Sports

Thurs 2nd July

Sheffield United vs Tottenham (6pm) Sky Sports

Man City vs Liverpool (8.15pm) Sky Sports

Sorry Team it is a Sky Sport Uk listing but I did ask have Spark Sport listed it yet?
June 09, 2020 22:33
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Yep Spark Sport have EPL games listed. 

June 09, 2020 22:44
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Sky Sport have got the rights again for next six years
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Well, unless Sky has had a bit of a digital revolution that's sad news to me.

Will Sky (I'm guessing through Sky Sports Now) be able to...

1. Have all the games live? (Or are they limited to what goes on Sky's sharkting "sport" channels, so you can expect not to be broadcast live if Namibia are playing India at Rugby or something)
2. Allow me to start watching the games 20 minutes late but still start from the start without spoilers?
3. Allow me to watch on demand reasonably close to the end time of the game?

???

February 18, 2022 09:39
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Yeah some unanswered questions about the product going to receive. Apparently all games will be live has been confirmed.
Being able to watch on demand and delayed start hasn't been confirmed how its going to happen yet.
February 18, 2022 09:41
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Well, unless Sky has had a bit of a digital revolution that's sad news to me.

Will Sky (I'm guessing through Sky Sports Now) be able to...

1. Have all the games live? (Or are they limited to what goes on Sky's sharkting "sport" channels, so you can expect not to be broadcast live if Namibia are playing India at Rugby or something)
2. Allow me to start watching the games 20 minutes late but still start from the start without spoilers?
3. Allow me to watch on demand reasonably close to the end time of the game?

???

 
At the moment any football content on Sky is shown simultaneously online on BeinSports connect, so even if they can’t show all the games on tv channels, they’ll be streamed live. BeinSports also has the option to start a game from either live or the start of the broadcast when streaming, so should be fine on all those. Unless the contracts between bein/Sky change next season, BeinSports connect is included in Sky Sport and you just log in with mysky account.

If anything, Spark Sport are worse in that respect of showing games, given they only showed 3 maybe 4 out of 32 (just British teams) Europa/Conference League games on a Friday morning, whereas every game was shown on Sky/Bein when they had the rights.
February 18, 2022 10:02
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They are using Sky Sport Next platform so would assume you can choose what game to watch and aren't stuck to whats on the EPG

Also confirmed all Live and on demand. https://twitter.com/ByPhillipRollo/status/1494416213853683712
February 18, 2022 10:04
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good to see Sky putting the money to where the football fans want it - they've listened and beaten Spark just like they were beaten a few years ago. Spark are likely to lose some customers now I'd think with only fringe sports and the NZ cricket in NZ only.
February 18, 2022 10:07 · Edited February 18, 2022 10:07
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Not surprised rights have changed hands again. Already have Sky Sport for other things I follow so will allow me to cut Spark Sport for most of the year and just pick it up for the odd month here and there when there's something else I want to watch like England home cricket tests. Unless my team make it back into Europe I guess then I'll still need both.
Interested to see how all games live and on demand work. Am I going to have to pay out for Sky Sport Now in addition to regular Sky to get games that won't be on a Sky Sport channel?
February 18, 2022 10:19 · Edited February 18, 2022 10:22
Big Pete 65
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It would have been a difficult situation for Spark Sport whether they had retained the English Premier League for next seaon or not.
If Spark had retained the EPL, they would have lost a lot of subscibers for the six weeks the EPL is taking a break during the World Cup anyway.
That won't affect Sky, who will screen the World Cup in that period.
And as it stands now, with the little football they have left, Spark have no popular football to screen for three and a half months because the UEFA club competitions are taking a three and a half month break from early November to mid February.:
"The 2022/23 Premier League season will start on August 6, 2022 with a six-week break taken from November 14 and will resume on Boxing Day, December 26, just eight days after the 2022 World Cup final as leagues around Europe take a mid-season break."

No UEFA club competitons are being held between November 3 2022 and February 14 2023 (three and a half months) because of the FIFA World Cup in Qatar in November and December.
Tough for Spark Sport, who have already lost the EPL and are going to lose a lot of their remaining football subscribers, with few subscribing at all from November through to mid-February.
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Yer I'm a bit disappointed, as I have grown to love Spark Sport. I have both Spark and Sky and the ability to watch highlights relatively early in the morning, and on demand whole games is crucial. I'd rather pay them and get it, rather than pay Sky and not. 

I asked a question to Sky about their highlights the other day which wasn't really answered. Their app used to have highlights of most games, then they shut it down because apparently people didn't like to have so many logins (huh?) and it was supposed to go onto the Sky Go app. Which all it is is just pointing to the tv show highlights which could be days away. 

I hope it all improves next season 
February 20, 2022 15:20
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Not sure I agree Spark would have lost a lot of subscribers during the World Cup if they still had the Premier League. Probably some, but I suspect many might not bother with the hassle of cancelling for one month and then remembering to re-subscribe. The World Cup and break in UEFA competitions also coincide with the home cricket season so presumably that would keep some people too.

Interesting to see if there's a price decrease with the loss of premium content though. And whether Sky increase the price with EPL (I don't recall them reducing when they lost it).

February 21, 2022 09:23
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I highly doubt spark will reduce their price under any circumstances.
I'm glad they have lost the EPL and hope that eventually the cricket goes back to Sky, Spark's coverage is so bad and not what I expect when watching a live event.
February 21, 2022 09:40
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Yer I'm a bit disappointed, as I have grown to love Spark Sport. I have both Spark and Sky and the ability to watch highlights relatively early in the morning, and on demand whole games is crucial. I'd rather pay them and get it, rather than pay Sky and not. 

I asked a question to Sky about their highlights the other day which wasn't really answered. Their app used to have highlights of most games, then they shut it down because apparently people didn't like to have so many logins (huh?) and it was supposed to go onto the Sky Go app. Which all it is is just pointing to the tv show highlights which could be days away. 

I hope it all improves next season 
Yeah I feel the same, was initially doubtful on Spark, but they have lifted their game immeasurably, and their product to me using an Apple TV is pretty much flawless. Their image quality blows Sky Sport Now out of the park.

If you've got a set top box, you'll be fine, but this isn't good news for those of us who stream, as their offering is vastly inferior.

Ironically their Sky Sport GO picture quality is better than SSN (in my case using a Chromecast) , but it's a difficult app to navigate when you're looking for highlights or on-demand content.

I guess we should wait and see if they do improve their product, but as it stands now, it will be a lesser product than what Spark offer.
February 21, 2022 12:35
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Not sure I agree Spark would have lost a lot of subscribers during the World Cup if they still had the Premier League. Probably some, but I suspect many might not bother with the hassle of cancelling for one month and then remembering to re-subscribe. The World Cup and break in UEFA competitions also coincide with the home cricket season so presumably that would keep some people too.

Interesting to see if there's a price decrease with the loss of premium content though. And whether Sky increase the price with EPL (I don't recall them reducing when they lost it).

I guess it's possible that Sky will charge extra for the EPL as they used to when they screened it via beIN Sports who actually had the rights. You had to pay extra for the beIN Sports channel on Sky or beIN Sports Connect online..
The partnership beween Sky and beIN has had advantages for both Sky and football fans with beIN making some sort of rights deal with Sky for the A=League, NZ international teams etc.
There may not have been a 24 hour dedicated football channel on Sky without their deal with beIN. I doubt if Sky would fork out on their own for the various European leagues, UEFA and Conmebol internationals etc. that they screen
February 21, 2022 13:38
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Maybe I've discovered the issue and you guys can help solve it... 

I have Sky (the box) and therefore get SkyGo for free, which is basically just the channels online. 

On SkySportsNow, does that have all the replays/ondemand/highlights for football and other sports? This used to be on the sky sports highlights app and it may now be added to SkySportsNow but perhaps not SkyGo.

Ta 
February 23, 2022 10:24
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Maybe I've discovered the issue and you guys can help solve it... 

I have Sky (the box) and therefore get SkyGo for free, which is basically just the channels online. 

On SkySportsNow, does that have all the replays/ondemand/highlights for football and other sports? This used to be on the sky sports highlights app and it may now be added to SkySportsNow but perhaps not SkyGo.

Ta 
I haven't used SKY Go much, (I actually don't have a SKY sub, but use the online offering - SKY Go from my parents SKY sub). 

It isn't super easy to use. For instance I went 'Browse', typed in 'Phoenix' and nothing came up. However on the front page it has a section 'Home of Sport' which shows the various comps from the various sports (eg NRL All Stars, FA Cup, A-League Men, A-League Women etc etc) and from there you can navigate to full replays and highlights.

In my opinion SKY Go is better than SkySportNow as I've mentioned before, but that largely makes sense as generally a Sky Set Top box subscription is more than Sky Sport Now. 

Sky Go was designed to be consumed via a phone/tablet, although with the relatively recent change, it can now be viewed on a large screen with Chromecast and airplay.

But as mentioned SSN needs to be a better standalone product, it's priced at $40 a month, so it's not cheap, the AU comparison, Kayo is $25 

Also Sky GO isn't really just the channels on line, there's plenty of other content on there too.
February 23, 2022 14:29
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I got rid of my box about 2 years ago or so and have been operating purely using SSN since then. 
It's worked really well and saved me money. We have a Neon subscription as well, so we've basically got Sky covered with no box, for a cheaper price.
I've not had any issues with gaining access to highlights packages and replays etc, except my one gripe that Sky are often a lot slower than Spark to actually get these onto the app, which can be frustrating.
February 23, 2022 15:05
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Price rise coming for the new season then;
https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/127871921/price-rise-for-sky-sport-this-year-more-likely-than-not
Also some stuff in there about Sky trying to get Spark Sport onto their set top box. 
February 24, 2022 13:53
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Price rise coming for the new season then;
https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/127871921/price-rise-for-sky-sport-this-year-more-likely-than-not
Also some stuff in there about Sky trying to get Spark Sport onto their set top box. 

the next gen of Sky's box is to have it with access to apps like spark sport, netflix, neon etc. Giving subscribers a one stop shop for all the things they want to view. Obs needs a revenue share agreement with the various providers.
February 24, 2022 14:01
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Price rise coming for the new season then;
https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/127871921/price-rise-for-sky-sport-this-year-more-likely-than-not
Also some stuff in there about Sky trying to get Spark Sport onto their set top box. 

the next gen of Sky's box is to have it with access to apps like spark sport, netflix, neon etc. Giving subscribers a one stop shop for all the things they want to view. Obs needs a revenue share agreement with the various providers.

The only reason there isn't already a "one stop shop" is because Sky has been so slow to the party with apps for tools like Apple TV (which I'm sure will still be infinitely better than what Sky produces)
February 24, 2022 15:35
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you're probably right on that front, the old CEO was a bit slow with the new tech etc, new CEO seems much more keen to advance the online offering etc. New tv box option sounds like it will be streaks ahead of the current offering with access to the variety of sky options along with access to spark, netflix, disney+, neon etc
February 24, 2022 15:48
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Is a set top box really the future? 
Collating services into one interface seems like a fantastic idea, but why the box for that?
February 25, 2022 08:26
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I dont care what the platform is that brings it to my big screen tv, whether its a box or a smart app or something else.
Using the box means that any TV can be used and unlike spark doesnt require a modern smart TV for the app. I have two under 5yr old LG TV's byt neither can get the spark app on them.

For me that was/is one of Sparks biggest issues, their tech is too smart. meaning not everyone can access it. Sky's box removes that issue.
February 25, 2022 08:56 · Edited February 25, 2022 08:57
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Is a set top box really the future? 
Collating services into one interface seems like a fantastic idea, but why the box for that?

Because the future is the internet, and Sky has built a PR campaign on "Internet bad ... satellite good" and they need a box to facilitate that.
February 25, 2022 09:25 · Edited February 25, 2022 09:26
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I dont care what the platform is that brings it to my big screen tv, whether its a box or a smart app or something else.
Using the box means that any TV can be used and unlike spark doesnt require a modern smart TV for the app. I have two under 5yr old LG TV's byt neither can get the spark app on them.

For me that was/is one of Sparks biggest issues, their tech is too smart. meaning not everyone can access it. Sky's box removes that issue.

There are countless other pieces of hardware you can plug into your tv. It certainly does not need to be a Sky box. Make no mistake this isn't some customer centric innovation from Sky... it's them trying to hold onto their high value satellite customers (who often don't know better) for as long as possible.

Wait until Sky doesn't maintain their box... and the Netflix/YouTube/Amazon/Etc apps all fall out of date.
February 25, 2022 09:28 · Edited February 25, 2022 09:30
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I dont care what the platform is that brings it to my big screen tv, whether its a box or a smart app or something else.
Using the box means that any TV can be used and unlike spark doesnt require a modern smart TV for the app. I have two under 5yr old LG TV's byt neither can get the spark app on them.

For me that was/is one of Sparks biggest issues, their tech is too smart. meaning not everyone can access it. Sky's box removes that issue.

There are countless other pieces of hardware you can plug into your tv. It certainly does not need to be a second rate Sky box.

Wait until Sky doesn't maintain their box... and the Netflix/YouTube/Amazon/Etc apps all fall out of date.

as long as its not my lap top i dont care.
keeping things updated is something else to worry about at a later date
February 25, 2022 09:32
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I guess there are still a lot of older or less technically inclined people who struggle with things like casting from a phone etc and are used to just being able to turn on Sky so a box that includes everything is ideal for a lot of people like that. 
Personally I've really liked Vodafone TV which I've had for for the last 4 years. I follow enough sport outside of the EPL that I still need Sky Sport, and my wife likes some of the lifestyle type Sky channels so it's worked for us. We also have an older non Smart TV in the lounge so between VTV and Playstation all our streaming needs are sorted. The box with everything has been good for the non-technical wife acceptance factor too as she only has to turn the TV on and everything is there in the one menu.  

Have never bothered to buy a Chromecast as all streaming needs other than Spark Sport have been covered by this setup. I know it's not an expensive device but just didn't want to buy another device for one service when I thought the chances were the EPL would move to something else at the next rights renewal anyway and that's turned out. 

Sounds like the new Sky box should be a good replacement for VTV so will be good for us. We have a smaller Smart TV in the bedroom which I got included in a deal with my S10 phone so that has all the apps needed, so that means I've had to watch Spark Sport in the bedroom. 
February 25, 2022 11:36
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but this is the thing, why should I as the consumer have to buy yet another piece of technology to make yet another app work on my exiting (not old) TV. This was one of the biggest gripes people had when Spark had the rugby world cup. With Sky they supply the kit to make it all work, its simple plug and play - which it should be across the board. Casting from my phone, or laptop means I cant be using those devices while I'm watching a game. Your app or service should be designed to work on my device, not the other way around.

and I consider myself neither old nor adverse to tech.

for example, if I want to watch the gunners play on my big TV in the lounge I have to stream in through my laptop, currently connected via a cable to the TV, I could invest in a chrome cast or similar but why should I have to? What this means is that I can be using the laptop to chat about the game I'm watching which decreases my enjoyment of the game. I have none of these issues with Sky tv cos their box does all the connectivity work for me and my own devices are free for me to us as I need.
February 25, 2022 11:43 · Edited February 25, 2022 11:47
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Quite interesting reading everyone's set-ups and preferences. 
We've got 3 tv's in the house, only one is smart.
All 3 tv's have chromecasts, so the kids are all very adept at using that technology. My partner and I buy new phones every 2 years, while the old ones are still running and alive, and we keep those to use as "remotes" for the two "dumb" tvs basically. It seems to work pretty well as a system and has allowed us to drop any boxes etc, and just be purely internet based. 
We used to have all the streaming services you could basically get but now we take it month by month, and turn subscriptions off and on depending on usage.
For example right now we have Amazon Prime turned off as we found we weren't using it for very much. In the past we've turned Neon, Disney, Sky Sports, and Spark Sports off and on for different periods, but Netflix tends to be a staple, and comes as part of our Spark deal anyway. 
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