Women's World Cup 2023 - Ozealand

Australia and New Zealand to link-up for 2023?

It's no surprise that finally someone has figured out that combining with New Zealand is not merely the only way Australia can possibly meet a 32-team Women's World Cup in 2023 - the expansion from 24 teams was flagged by FIFA President Gianni Infantino in June - but it presents Australia's best chance of becoming hosts.

By itself, Australia will not be hosts.

With New Zealand, we have a much better chance because, as I outline in my book Whatever It Takes - the Inside Story of the FIFA Way, Oceania is an “open file” in FIFA since Australia left at the end of 2005.

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WE have a good record with FIFA world cup hoisting to date. I believe?

Have NZF formally put in a bid?

OFC[edit]

Oceania has never hosted the tournament.

New Zealand

Main article: New Zealand 2023 FIFA Women's World Cup bid

Prior to their hosting of the 2015 FIFA U-20 World Cup, New Zealand officials expressed interest in bidding for the hosting rights of the 2023 FIFA Women's World Cup.[21] FIFA's director of tournaments, Colin Smith, called New Zealand a "major contender" to host the Women's World Cup should they bid.[22] on 25 February 2019 New Zealand Football announced that it will put forward to bid for 2023.[23]

NZF have made completed an expression of interest form to FIFA and are one of nine countries alongside Argentina, Australia, Bolivia, Brazil, Colombia, Japan, Korea (who have expressed interest in a joint bid with DPR Korea Football Association) and South Africa.

FIFA approve move to 32 team 2023 WWC.

Radio News: NZF still keen on 32 team WWC 2023 bid

The Womens Game take on it

Japan is also on the mix - tough one for NZ and Australia to get it

https://amp.theage.com.au/sport/soccer/australia-and-new-zealand-form-bid-to-co-host-2023-women-s-world-cup-20191210-p53imp.html

Fudge yeah! I honestly think this was our only chance to have (some) of the World Cup here. Agree with the article too that I think it helps improve Australia bid having us along pushing for the votes than going their own.

Be interesting to see how they divide the games, assume we will get a pool or two and two quaters. Would hope also a semi but that might be pushing it to share with Australia.

Official announcement

https://www.asone2023.com/news/ffa-and-nzf-unite-o...

apparently it would be a proper partnership with NZ hosting 1/2 the groups and getting the opening match, Quarter and Semi Final wit the final in Oz

Auckland, Hamilton, Wellington, Christchurch and Dunedin believed to be the cities for NZ games

   https://thewomensgame.com/news/joint-australian-new-zealand-bid-for-2023-world-cup-535487

At this stage the Australia/New Zealand bid is up against Argentina, Brazil, Colombia, Japan, South Africa, South Korea and/or North Korea (expressing interest in a joint bid).

Here is upcoming process

• January/February 2020: Inspection visits to the member associations
• April 2020: FIFA will publish the bid evaluation reports
• May 2020: Expected appointment date of the host(s) by the FIFA Council; it will be decided by 37 FIFA board members whose ballots will be published after the vote.

South Africa, the Koreas and Argentina have pulled out so its 

- Australia/New Zealand 

- Brazil

- Colombia and 

- Japan 

Who knows with fifa politics but I feel like the fact the WWC has never been played in South America means it will go to Brazil or Colombia 

South America also has a petty poor track record of supporting women's football outside of Brazil, and hosted a senior (men's) World Cup in 2014, when Asia has been waiting since 2007. The feeling around the bid is that it will come down to Aus-NZ v Japan. Will be the only chance in our lifetimes for Fifa to ever get Oceania in the senior World Cup mix.

The Fifa council has 37 members – Infantino, nine others from Uefa, seven from Asia and Africa, five from South America and Concacaf, and three from Oceania.

Think you can lock in the three Oceania votes for Aus-NZ, while Japan, Colombia, and Brazil each have a rep on the council, so it's 3-1-1-1 as things stand.

4-1-1-1 incl Australia vote?

if Australia has a member that is....

Australia does not have a member, sadly.

Venues in the bid are:

Eden Park (Auckland) 48k
Wellington Stadium 39k
Christchurch Stadium 22.5k
Waikato Stadium (Hamilton) 25k
Duneiden Stadium 28.7k

New Homebush stadium 70k
New SFS 42.5k
Melbourne Rectangular Stadium (AAMI Park) 30k
Brisbane Stadium (Suncorp) 52k
"Perth Rectangular Stadium" (HBF Park) 22k
Hindmarsh 18k
Newcastle Stadium 26k
York Park (Launceston) 22k

Official and on FIFA's site now: https://resources.fifa.com/image/upload/bid-book-australia-and-new-zealand.pdf?cloudid=fwtyuwa9pb3encyeqlwc

The rest of the bids: https://www.fifa.com/womens-football/news/fifa-women-s-world-cup-2023tm-four-bids-submitted

https://www.matildas.com.au/news/australia-and-new-zealand-unveil-plans-historic-co-hosted-fifa-womens-world-cup-2023tm

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/football/119442833/how-australia-and-new-zealand-plan-to-win-the-vote-for-the-2023-world-cup

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/football/world-game/119797331/nz-football-encouraged-as-fifa-completes-inspection-of-womens-world-cup-venues

The FIFA Council has announced that it will decide the host of the 2023 FIFA Women's World Cup virtually on June 25, 2020.

The original FIFA Council was meant to meet in early June 2020 in Addis Ababa. However, the COVID-19 pandemic has required FIFA to alter their selection plans.

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In the mix 

FIFA has also revealed the four final competitive bids who will be in contention in the June vote. They are the:

• Joint Submission from the Football Federation Australia and New Zealand Football.
• Submission from the Brazilian Football Association
• Submission from the Columbian Football Association
• Submission from the Japan Football Association 

What are our chances of actually being selected as hosts like?

It will be us (and Australia) or Japan.

Japan already have the Womens olympic tournament in 2021. Surely that works in our favour to get the 2023 WC.

Or not....

1968 Olympics Mexico, 1970 MWC Mexico,

1972 Olympics Germany, 1974 MWC Germany

.....

1996 Olympics USA, 1994 MWC USA & 1999 WWC USA,

..

2008 Olympics China, 2007 WWC China,

.

2016 Olympics Brazil,2014 MWC Brazil,

2020(21) Olympics Japan (scheduled),  2023 WWC (TBD - Japan anyone?),

2024 Olympics France (scheduled), 2019 WWC France,

2028 Olympics USA (scheduled), 2026 MWC USA/Mexico/Canada (scheduled)

Take out the ones that are Olympics + Men's World Cup (as the Olympics has never been a big deal for men in the World Cup era) and you're left with...

2019/2024, where the IOC put the Olympics five years after the World Cup.

2007/2008, where the IOC put the Olympics five years after the World Cup (it was originally scheduled to be in China in 2003, but shifted to 2007 automatically when SARS made that a no-go).

and 1996/1999, where the US was the only bidder for the World Cup.

Proven big event host with plenty of infrastructure (Japan) vs somewhere new and historic (Australia/NZ) seems to be the basic breakdown of the contest.

Australia needs to Tidy up its Football/State in fighting over commitment to resources.

You can take out all the ones you want and come up with countless spurious excuses for why, but the fact remains there have been several times where the Olympics and major FIFA tournaments have been in the same city on the same cycle, so saying Australia/New Zealand are more likely to get it than Japan is like saying I've tossed a coin and got heads 3 times in a row so more likely now to get tails.

And what màkes a proven big host? 

What makes a place new and historic?

"There have been several times where the Olympics and major FIFA tournaments have been in the same city on the same cycle" isn't the issue though, it's whether Fifa decision makers have decided to put a major event in a country that's only just hosted one (or, more accurately, just going to have hosted one), something they've only done once before (because the men's Olympics football tournament isn't a major event) when they had no option but to. To do a proper analysis I'd have to look at whether they've had the option to but decided not to, but I can't be arsed – plus this is the first time it's been chosen by the Fifa Council with votes being made public, so there's not exactly precedent. I think it's fair to say that hosting successive major women's events in the same country wouldn't do much to grow the game, but who knows where that sits in the Fifa Council's priorities. 

As for the two questions...

A, past experience in hosting big events and a well-established intercity transport network, grounds, and accomodation (proven).

B, Australia and New Zealand have never hosted senior World Cups before (new) and this would be the first (and almost certainly last) senior World Cup in Oceania (historic).

If the bid evaluation reports put the two bids within cooey of each other on the first point, the second one might make all the difference.

The 37-member FIFA Council will hold an open vote, with the result of each ballot and each voter's choice to be made public on the FIFA website.

Is this the first live open vote for FIFA ?

The 2026 Men's World Cup was – though that was member associations, not members of the Fifa Council.

We can do this

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/football/nz-teams/121670576/final-push-underway-for-fifa-womens-world-cup-bid-with-no-stone-to-be-left-unturned

acinda Ardern and Scott Morrison are set to be part of the trans-Tasman Fifa Women's World Cup bid's final push.

Let’s hope Scott Morrison does not create an own goal

Jacinda will assist him in heading for the right goal

Piney - Stars Are Aligning

Brazil have withdrawn their bid leaving Colombia, Japan and Aus \ NZ as contenders

When is the decision going to be announced?

25 June (which should be 26 June here).

 A fourth bid, from Brazil, was initially included, but withdrawn on 8 June 2020. The Brazilian Football Confederation cited an inability to provide federal government guarantees as a result of "economic and fiscal austerity" stemming from the COVID-19 pandemic in Brazil as a reason for withdrawing their bid.