Its Summer! - the Fever Cricket Thread. (Part 2)

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Leggy wrote:

Unfortunately not in the same class.

combination of the aussies being very good and in form and a lack of preparation from our side, two meaningless tests against a 2nd string English side in NZ conditions were not the bets prep for the aussie conditions.

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theprof wrote:
Leggy wrote:

Unfortunately not in the same class.

combination of the aussies being very good and in form and a lack of preparation from our side, two meaningless tests against a 2nd string English side in NZ conditions were not the bets prep for the aussie conditions.

Weak excuses

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theprof wrote:
Leggy wrote:

Unfortunately not in the same class.

combination of the aussies being very good and in form and a lack of preparation from our side, two meaningless tests against a 2nd string English side in NZ conditions were not the bets prep for the aussie conditions.

That wasn't a second-string English side. The loss in Australia was embarrassing, but as I said before the series started, a lot of people were deluded about our chances in Australia, even if we'd had a better lead up to the first test.

They have to regroup now and try to avoid another embarrassment against India.

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el grapadura wrote:
theprof wrote:
Leggy wrote:

Unfortunately not in the same class.

combination of the aussies being very good and in form and a lack of preparation from our side, two meaningless tests against a 2nd string English side in NZ conditions were not the bets prep for the aussie conditions.

That wasn't a second-string English side. The loss in Australia was embarrassing, but as I said before the series started, a lot of people were deluded about our chances in Australia, even if we'd had a better lead up to the first test.

They have to regroup now and try to avoid another embarrassment against India.

they were without several of their big name players that are owning south Africa at the moment - hence second string.

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theprof wrote:
el grapadura wrote:
theprof wrote:
Leggy wrote:

Unfortunately not in the same class.

combination of the aussies being very good and in form and a lack of preparation from our side, two meaningless tests against a 2nd string English side in NZ conditions were not the bets prep for the aussie conditions.

That wasn't a second-string English side. The loss in Australia was embarrassing, but as I said before the series started, a lot of people were deluded about our chances in Australia, even if we'd had a better lead up to the first test.

They have to regroup now and try to avoid another embarrassment against India.

they were without several of their big name players that are owning south Africa at the moment - hence second string.

Which big name players? Bairstow who got dropped after he had poor Ashes and Anderson who was injured. If that's second string, you could say NZ had a second string side in Australia.

Also, how is being 1-0 down in the series owning a team?

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Colvinator wrote:
theprof wrote:
Leggy wrote:

Unfortunately not in the same class.

combination of the aussies being very good and in form and a lack of preparation from our side, two meaningless tests against a 2nd string English side in NZ conditions were not the bets prep for the aussie conditions.

Weak excuses

not excuses, just things that NZC should have been able to forsee and make the necessary arrangements to better prepare the team. For mine, we should have sent the team to play in Aussie over there to play one, if not two warm up matches and let our development players play the England side in the second test. The English series was meaningless anyway, it didn't count towards the test championship rankings.

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theprof wrote:
The English series was meaningless anyway, it didn't count towards the test championship rankings.

Every test is important.  The history and importance of test cricket is not reliant on a test championship that hasn't even fully happened yet.  I just don't know how you can claim that it was meaningless, nor that it was a second string English side, missing only one player.

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Someone let BJ know his double century was meaningless.

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Positives 
  • I don't think we'll see Santner near the test side for sometime to come now.
  • Aussie media very complementary of our supporters and that could well be enough to make sure we get invited back more often for big tests.
  • Blundell did well in the opening role, a little more discipline around leaving the wide balls early on and he's got the tools - something that takes a while to adjust to. 
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Jamieson seems alright, haven't seen him bowl much before. Reminds me a little of Glen McGrath, not the quickest but the extra bounce due to his height makes him awkward.

As I'm writing this he gets Kohli!

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Good first session, but ideally need to bowl them out today and be batting day 2 and 3 when it's at it's best.  Still a lot of work to do.  We are gonna miss Wagner for innings 3 when it's really flat.

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Nz favs but it is closer than betting markets and media says. If India set us above 150 it will be tough. Nz only a slight fav right now imo. 

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And in the end... India only set us 9 to win

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That's a very good win.

This Indian team were pretty well set up to come here and do very well. But they were outclassed at the Basin. I thought Bumrah would come here and destroy us like he did in Australia last year, it just hasn't happened. He's been a disappointment.

Hopefully we can finish the job at Haglee.

Do that, and the summer has to get a pass mark. If at the start of the summer you'd offered me test series wins over England and India I'd have bitten your hand off. I probably would have asked for more fight in Australia but to win two of the three series is a good effort.

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It seems like the Indian team only were at their best in the T20s

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Another very good test performance. Great result against a very good Indian team who were (in theory) set up to do pretty well here.

What would people give the test summer? 6/10? 7/10? I'd probably give it a 6. If we'd shown some fight in Australia, it would have got a 7.

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Beating England and India in 3 tests and drawing one out of the four played is an immense result. The only other team in the world that could pull that off is Australia. The defeat in Australia still stings, mostly for the manner of defeat since I thought that we would be up against it, but in some ways it was just a perfect storm of us being very underprepared, overly loyal in some selections, and with inopportune injuries to key players. Add to that a super-pumped and motivated full strength Aussie team, and realistically the writing was on the wall. 

We've got a pretty good chance to be in the hunt for the top two in the Test championship with the test series coming up in the next 12 months, I just hope we don't get too distracted with the T20 World Cup coming up later in the year too.

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Irrespective of a green top hope we have finally realised that there is no point in playing a spinner in nz just for the sake of it

A great result and good selection 

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We didn't just beat India. We absolutely obliterated them. 

Jamieson looks an absolute gun, and our openers are now sorted. Looking promising for the next few years ahead.

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bopman wrote:

Another very good test performance. Great result against a very good Indian team who were (in theory) set up to do pretty well here.

What would people give the test summer? 6/10? 7/10? I'd probably give it a 6. If we'd shown some fight in Australia, it would have got a 7.

Definite 7/10.  The manner of the losses was dissapointing, but at the end of the day, losing 2-0 in Aus isn't enough of a drag to bring it down to an average (6/10) season.  If we had of swept England I would have even considered an 8/10.

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Buffon II wrote:

We didn't just beat India. We absolutely obliterated them. 

Jamieson looks an absolute gun, and our openers are now sorted. Looking promising for the next few years ahead.

yeah, I'd like to see him push for the allrounders spot, see some pressure on Colin, Kane and the selectors seem very reluctant to change the southee/boult combo (for good reasons) and you can't switch out Wagner! - For mine the bowling allrounder is a great spot for Jamieson! Came from Auckland to Canterbury as a batsmen, turned out he could bowl a bit,

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Apparently there's a game on in Sydney tonight?... (but not if you were wanting to attend, as a fan).

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How good is Kyle Jamieson?! What a start he's had to his International career.

Excellent crowd at the Basin too. Good work Wellington.

Best wishes to Kane Williamson and his wife Sarah as well. The pair are expecting their first child together over the next week or so.

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aitkenmike wrote:

I fudgeing love test cricket!!! 

A "This". 

In an age of short attention spans, and doing everything in a rush - Test Cricket is one of those seemingly few glorious slow paced activities that just seems to fit the summer festive season like a glove.

Had a lovely old time at Bay Oval on Day 2 with two brothers and my 4 year old niece. Her bossing other stray urchins for a roll down the grassy bank.

Black Caps making Test Cricket final at Lords verus Baggy Greens would be awesome (if not fully deserved). 

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aitkenmike wrote:

I fudgeing love test cricket!!! 

A super this.

I recently thought of the comparison to Bohemian Rhapsody- not conventional 3 minute song dross forgotten 5 minutes later, but something epic and special 

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Who do you want to win?  Raascist Australians or Sooky Indians?

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It goes against everything that is natural to 'support' the Australian cricket team, but a 3-1 series win to them, gives the Black Caps a real shot to make the World Test Championship Final at Lords in June.

Think India would then need to beat England 3-0 or even 4-0, in their next series to pip the BCs.

BCs would still be big underdogs, but would love to see Jamieson & Co get a crack at the Baggy Greens in English conditions.

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coochiee wrote:

It goes against everything that is natural to 'support' the Australian cricket team, but a 3-1 series win to them, gives the Black Caps a real shot to make the World Test Championship Final at Lords in June.

Think India would then need to beat England 3-0 or even 4-0, in their next series to pip the BCs.

BCs would still be big underdogs, but would love to see Jamieson & Co get a crack at the Baggy Greens in English conditions.

THIS!

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coochiee wrote:

It goes against everything that is natural to 'support' the Australian cricket team, but a 3-1 series win to them, gives the Black Caps a real shot to make the World Test Championship Final at Lords in June.

Think India would then need to beat England 3-0 or even 4-0, in their next series to pip the BCs.

BCs would still be big underdogs, but would love to see Jamieson & Co get a crack at the Baggy Greens in English conditions.

Even a 2-1 series win for Aussie (assuming it's a 4 test series) means that India would have to beat England 4-0 to finish ahead of us. So defiinitely  if you're a NZ cricket fan you should be supporting Australia, and then England, just to complete the dirty feeling.

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exactly if he concentrated more on his keeping/catching than the verbal Aussie could have won this. I'd even go close to saying he alone cost Aussie this game.

But all credit to the Indians best test cricket seen for quite some time.

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great finish, indians fought hard , agree with the sentiments about paine - just another aussie grub and an average keeper to boot. All three of his drops were catchable and would have been taken by the likes of Gilchrist and Healy. 

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The commentators were all over Pant after his drops in the first innings debating whether he should be dropped....

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Some Aussies just cant stop cheating or displaying poor sportsmanship. Note: Smith removing the batters crease during a drinks break, caught on stump camp. Piss poor losers, piss poor winners

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theprof wrote:

great finish, indians fought hard , agree with the sentiments about paine - just another aussie grub and an average keeper to boot. All three of his drops were catchable and would have been taken by the likes of Gilchrist and Healy. 

Wonder if Tim Payne is copping any good natured ribbing from his Nix team mates, with the cricket happenings.

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what a great final day of the test. not a bad result for us either

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Its Summer! - the Fever Cricket Thread. (Part 2)