Cap Prem 2020

You have to wonder what the average age of West's cap prem would be without Jamie O'Connor in the mix!

Speaking of 'older' Wests players, are Panzer, Edge and Sippola still playing for the first team?

17/6/2018 1:00pm

Miramar Rangers

Miramar Rangers

5 vs 6

Tawa AFC

Tawa AFC

PLAYED

rush goalies?

FIFA have some money on this game?

Harry seems to have been injured for most of the season thus far.

Panzer is down in the cap prem at the moment, as in Sippola.

Twitter implies that Mar were down to 10 men by the 9th minute! Sounds bonkers.

who was the decent tall big bellied lad playing at the back for CL on Sat? 

Comet suggests harry did play, but if you're talking about the two centre backs, i am guessing it was Faber & Pijnaker.

ah must be confusing Pijnaker and Panzer I guess. WHich is the one what was TW for five minutes?

Panzer

Edge was playing and you're right about the CBs

North Wellington won again 2-1 over KCU

Petone went down 2-0 at home to Upper Hutt City

that means North Wellington could win the league next weekend, if they beat Island Bay at home and Petone lose or draw against Western Suburbs.

If Petone win then it'll come down to the next weekend where North Wellington visit Petone!

at the bottom there are still only 5 points separating the bottom four of Island Bay (15), KCU (13), Lower Hutt (11), Olympic (10)

Petone lost 3-1 to Wests after being up 1-0 at half time. Can't see North Wellingtons score in Comet yet but if they have won, then they have won the league. 

not seen the score but Cap football just tweeted out that North Wellington have won the league

Play off between North Wellington and Palmerston North Marist have been confirmed. 

1st leg is 2.30pm 18th August at Alex Moore Park, Johnsonville

2nd leg 2.30pm 25th August at Memorial Park, Palmerston North

Welcome back Palmerston North Marist

what is this about a ball going through a hole in the net for Oly v Petone ?

Oh dear. Every refs nightmare. Some grounds nets are worse than others (looking at you, Boyd Wilson!)

Seth Ward scored apparently. Impossible to determine how the game might have gone. Replay?

I've heard from an Olympic player, definite goal. He said them and the Petone players were shocked the officials hadn't called it a goal.

Was a close game for sure! Petone seemed to seal it after their 2H penalty tho...

Yep, the Petone players, management, supporters, ball kids & likely even the folks watching from the Bob Scott retirement village could see it was a legitimate goal for Olympic....shocking.

Its probably the fastest Jake Piper has moved in years getting over there to tape up the offending hole ! 

Google this dude and he has a farken impressive CV. Has he been with NW all season?

"Other results saw North Wellington beat Upper Hutt City 3-1 thanks to a Kiernan Hughes-Mason hat-trick, while Western Suburbs’ reserves beat Miramar’s reserves 5-3"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiernan_Hughes-Mason

Yes, and will likely be playing for Tasman United over summer.

The last game of the season LH 1 v Olympic 10 has been amended to LH 3 - 0 as Olympic fielded a player who had played one to many CL games.

This reversal switches the Olympic & Kapiti Coast positions at the bottom of the table

Ouch, I know that's the rules but that's unlucky for last game of season to put the player over and reversing a result like that. Going to make it interesting when it comes time to do the sorting of who goes up and down after the Central League playoff

If Jville are promoted, Oly rezzies will be safe. If PNM are promoted, Oly go down.

ward?

Ward - Scored in both C/L then Prem that game weekend (Day)

what are people's thoughts on the 12 game rule?

Not a fan personally - I'm coaching women's Div 1 and our season ends 5 games after our first team's (Cap Prem) season ends. If I'm dropping down 3 players maximum why does there need to be a 12 game limit on it (FWIW its 9 games for women's Cap Prem - 66% of games)? Just means I have to be short on players for the last few games (love Uni holidays) cos all the 1st team players are tied. It also makes player eligibility inconsistent between the start and end of the season which makes no real sense to me - a couple of players who played games for me earlier in the season can't anymore.

I can see how it would be abused but I think limiting it to 3 mitigates the unfairness of it enough that the 12 game rule has no real effect but to trip people up and lose points - obviously I'm in a position where removing the rule would help me, I'm sure others like the rule as it stops me adding good players to my squad! Happy to be proven wrong.

  If as in the past it was 3 per week with 5 games to go you have your full top team playing playing div 1 for 2 games in Div 1 - creating angst if deprives a promotion or creates a relegation.

ah i dont really know what that all means. Women's Prem? that is still going? you saying you have six more weeks of Div1??

I wouldn't be dropping 3 more progressively each week though, just 3 max each week - would never have more than 3 first team players in my matchday squad. I think that would be fine but neither the 3 player rule or the 66% rule allow that to happen.

My ideal rule would be more along the lines of if a players has played 33% of a teams games to date then they are tied to that team and you can drop a max of 3 tied players per week. So if it was week 2 I could drop down 3 players that played 1st team in week 1 plus any that didn't play. If its week 10 I could drop down 3 players that have played at least 3 games for the 1st team, plus any that haven't played 3 games. 

I feel that would hit the balance Cap Football is looking for better than the new or old rules.

The Women's structure this season is:

W-League (6 teams)

Women's Prem (8)

Women's Div 1 (10)

Div 2 (8)

Div 3 (idk)

We have 3 league games and up to 2 cup games remaining (different eligibility rules for those though), the 1st team have their final game on Sunday. 2 of those league games are being played midweek to allow the Executive Plate and Kelly Cup finals to both be September 2.

why have you played less games than others?

is the rule for the cup just that you can't play in two cups ie Kelly and Plate?

this is your Prem. Can we say you haven't planned well?

Its not up to me what players the 1st team coach plays in his games, so no planning on my part - he was chasing W-League promotion so I'm not going to ask him to put my team ahead of his. Its not the end of the world and we should be promoted comfortably without dropping any 1st team players down. We played a game less cos Richard Prouse was unplayable and the catch-up game is tonight. Worth noting that all but 5 of the players with less than 9 games played are either injured long term, have left the club or are 2nds who have played up.

And yes, my understanding is that that is the cup rule - excelpt if a 1st team player played KS CUp that has no effect on Executive plate elegibility, only Kelly/Executive Plate do.

The rule isn't having a massive effect on my team, its not hamstringing our season and I wouldn't even necessarily drop 3 first team players down unless I had to (my current squad is 16 wins 1 draw from 17 games and some of the eligible players on that list wouldn't improve my team), just giving an opinion on the rule itself and how it could be improved and tried to put it in a real life context.

ok cool.

One thing that is needed for the rule is a managed approach from the club. Maybe make Alex aware of that. It can't 'trip you up' if you look at the CF stats. 

And the rule for Cup comp is that they can only play in one - and it has been like that for about five years after some teams were playing the same squad in both.

I'm well aware of the rules and which players are eligible for what - no one will be getting tripped up over anything (aside from Olympic). We've tracked appearances independently from Capital Football and know exactly who can play for who for the remainder of the season - it wouldn't look good for us to have eligibility issues after whinging about Miramar last season! Like I said, this rule is not a massive issue for our club this year, I was just giving an overall opinion on the 12 game rule like you asked for and providing some context. Worth saying that that opinion is my personal one and not the opinion of VUWAFC or any other coach at the club.