My point was in response to people who posted about how they disagreed with the outcomes and pathway within Ole when they were paying to be involved.
If you want to look at the mess that is the development space perhaps the spotlight needs to be on the local body/bodies who are simply not capable of doing it. This is what has ultimately led to the rise of club based youth systems.
For those at Davey F today, which Eastern Suburbs boys won’t be back at Wests this year?
Rumour floating around is most of them. Talk is they will be off conquering Europe, and by conquer I mean playing pub football in some backwater.
I had heard that back in Sept. Dunno how true.
I think it's still very much in the pipeline. I'm pretty sure Ole have bought into a Swedish 3rd Div side. Not sure how many kids will go but I'm guessing half a dozen of the Easts/Wests lads.
Is that IFK, where Tyler Lissette is?
IFK Varnamo were relegated from Superettan (2nd Tier) to Div 1 (South) (3rd Tier)
If Ole have bought/partnered with an actual 3rd Division side - that is 5th Tier
If you want to look at the mess that is the development space perhaps the spotlight needs to be on the local body/bodies who are simply not capable of doing it. This is what has ultimately led to the rise of club based youth systems.
I would suggest that a Tennant of the nix/ole is that you don't want a kid in 3-4 different coaching situations weekly - school, club, federation etc. That's not about capability, but sanity.
My point was in response to people who posted about how they disagreed with the outcomes and pathway within Ole when they were paying to be involved.
I must have missed that post.
For those at Davey F today, which Eastern Suburbs boys won’t be back at Wests this year?
Rumour floating around is most of them. Talk is they will be off conquering Europe, and by conquer I mean playing pub football in some backwater.
I had heard that back in Sept. Dunno how true.
I think it's still very much in the pipeline. I'm pretty sure Ole have bought into a Swedish 3rd Div side. Not sure how many kids will go but I'm guessing half a dozen of the Easts/Wests lads.
Is that IFK, where Tyler Lissette is?
IFK Varnamo were relegated from Superettan (2nd Tier) to Div 1 (South) (3rd Tier)
If Ole have bought/partnered with an actual 3rd Division side - that is 5th Tier
What I've heard is 3rd div whether that means 3rd tier (Div 1) or not I do not know.
Surely it would be what ever level there are no international restrictions on.
Will never convince me that playing in the Swedish 3rd division is a better pathway than the A League. The Ole players who have succeeded have all gone straight into decent leagues
Personally, I think there is a difference between the skill acquisition phase of a players career, and a "pathway". Why do EPL teams put their young 'uns in U23 sides, not championship teams? Does playing to win to early, hinder long term ability/ prospects?
I would suggest to you that Ole seem to have developed some decent players, despite playing in a fairly limited competition. Is the goal professional at 20, or the best they can be at 24?
Will never convince me that playing in the Swedish 3rd division is a better pathway than the A League. The Ole players who have succeeded have all gone straight into decent leagues
Does it have to be better? I guess it is an environment they control and potentially easier to get exposure to other clubs being based in Europe. But it doesn't have to be one or the other, a full time contract in A League probably is the better outcome but those chances are limited. The Swedish experiment would provide a repeatable opportunity. The Ole plan is to get the kids college or pro opportunities so I guess this ticks a box.
Maybe a seperate thread for clubs/academy’s might be appropriate here?
Olympic looking like they'll have a fairly experienced squad this year, George B, Chaz Lawrence and Aleem Sheik all returning to the club, along with Tom Jackson, Leo Villa and Gonzalo Amado, they'll be a tough beat.
If they continue to play the 6-2-2 and 6-1-3 they played on the weekend they may be tough to beat but they might struggle to score goals.
Henry Fa'arodo Jr & Luc Saker also on board
Personally, I think there is a difference between the skill acquisition phase of a players career, and a "pathway". Why do EPL teams put their young 'uns in U23 sides, not championship teams? Does playing to win to early, hinder long term ability/ prospects?
I would suggest to you that Ole seem to have developed some decent players, despite playing in a fairly limited competition. Is the goal professional at 20, or the best they can be at 24?
If you talk to Declan it's more like best you can be at 28. A big part of his development philosophy is that because the football culture is so different to Europe and South America most kiwi players just won't be ready to go overseas until they're in their 20s and have played a fair bit of senior football first. I've also heard him say that getting paid isn't what makes you professional, which is probably why he's happy for his boys to play regularly in the Handa in a style he thinks will help them develop rather than hand them over to the Nix.
Surely it would be what ever level there are no international restrictions on.
There are only restrictions on U18 and it applies to all leagues.
Once over 18 there are no restrictions.
Pretty likely all Ole lads raking that route are 18+
Olympic looking like they'll have a fairly experienced squad this year, George B, Chaz Lawrence and Aleem Sheik all returning to the club, along with Tom Jackson, Leo Villa and Gonzalo Amado, they'll be a tough beat.
If they continue to play the 6-2-2 and 6-1-3 they played on the weekend they may be tough to beat but they might struggle to score goals.
Scored as many as Ole this weekend
Is that IFK, where Tyler Lissette is?
IFK Varnamo were relegated from Superettan (2nd Tier) to Div 1 (South) (3rd Tier)
If Ole have bought/partnered with an actual 3rd Division side - that is 5th Tier
What does IFK mean?
BTW FWIW AFAIR LOTG lists IFK as "indirect free kick"
Olympic looking like they'll have a fairly experienced squad this year, George B, Chaz Lawrence and Aleem Sheik all returning to the club, along with Tom Jackson, Leo Villa and Gonzalo Amado, they'll be a tough beat.
If they continue to play the 6-2-2 and 6-1-3 they played on the weekend they may be tough to beat but they might struggle to score goals.
Scored as many as Ole this weekend
On two mistakes, FWIW.
Olympic looking like they'll have a fairly experienced squad this year, George B, Chaz Lawrence and Aleem Sheik all returning to the club, along with Tom Jackson, Leo Villa and Gonzalo Amado, they'll be a tough beat.
If they continue to play the 6-2-2 and 6-1-3 they played on the weekend they may be tough to beat but they might struggle to score goals.
Scored as many as Ole this weekend
On two mistakes, FWIW.
Isn't forcing the opposition in to mistakes and capitalising on them part of what a good team sets out to achieve?
I'm not sure I'd call either goal really the result of pressure though, just really silly mistakes.
More pre-season: karori v Olympic, 10am Te Whaea, 16th Feb.
Scored as many as Ole this weekend
That's right, the score in the first pre-season friendly tells you as much about the game as LLLLLLLLLLWLDLL tells you about the story of youth development at WPA.
Scored as many as Ole this weekend
That's right, the score in the first pre-season friendly tells you as much about the game as LLLLLLLLLLWLDLL tells you about the story of youth development at WPA.
I wouldn't have thought so really. I'd have thought one game was too small a sample.
I’ve tried to resist commenting on this. Couldn’t help myself.
Didn’t Leo Villa score a cracking free kick for the first?
So a goal was the result of either a : "really silly mistake" (team A view) or "cracking free kick" (team B view) #perspective
I wasn't there so have no idea but IF the latter, is the argument then going to be: "well yeah, it was a cracking free kick, but it really goes down as a silly mistake because we gave away a free kick " ;-)
Don’t follow any of your logic here, interesting that you weren’t actually at the game yet still make such bold statements.
welcome to the forum - my recommendation: set aside at least 2 hours every day if your going to correct every misguided post - there are a lot of them, and more you correct the more they will post about your team - Murphy's law.
So a goal was the result of either a : "really silly mistake" (team A view) or "cracking free kick" (team B view) #perspective
I wasn't there so have no idea but IF the latter, is the argument then going to be: "well yeah, it was a cracking free kick, but it really goes down as a silly mistake because we gave away a free kick " ;-)
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Don’t follow any of your logic here, interesting that you weren’t actually at the game yet still make such bold statements.
I really shouldn't go down the rabbit hole of commenting on pointless pre-season friendlies but hey, I'm all in now....
I don't follow your logic as to what "bold statement" I've actually made ! I was just theorising (hence the use of words "if" &"is") how team A may (stupidly) try to justify the fact they said the goal was a result of a "silly mistake" when apparently it was a "cracking free kick". That's all.
but I've bored myself already & no doubt confused things further so no further comment from me required..
Has Wgtn United found a team?
Has Wgtn United found a team?
I assume so. They have been telling everyone for four years that they were Wellington United and not the Phoenix so must have players of their own. And the Lower Hutt deal is a partnership so I'm sure they will be fine as well in a few years time.
Wests v Stop Out, Ole @3pm, Saturday 16th
Wests won 2-0 (or was it 2-1?) Wests goals were a soft-ish pen put away well (Garbett, I think) and Stamenic finishing after beating 2 or 3 players on the edge of the box. Stop Out could have scored from couple of errors from the Wests keepers but didn't capitalise.
Anyone know what Stop Out's goalkeeper situation is? They had a kid that couldn't have been more than 15/16 (and I'd believe it if you told me he was younger) between the sticks today.
Garbett did take the penalty.
Rumour has it that Stop Out had another two GK’s on trial vs Olympic today
NZ U17 rep and ex-Brisbane Roar goalkeeper Nick Milner was in goal for Wests against Karori yesterday. Wests won 2-0.
Any pre-season games tomorrow?
Any pre-season games tomorrow?
| Ground | Date/time | Home | Away | ||||
| Petone Memorial 1 Turf | 02/03/2019 11:00:00 AM | North Wellington AFC | Wairarapa | ||||
| Wakefield 2 Turf | 02/03/2019 02:00:00 PM | Wellington Olympic | Western Suburbs | ||||
| Te Whaea | 02/03/2019 01:00:00 PM | Waterside Karori | Stop Out | ||||
| Wakefield 1 Turf | 02/03/2019 11:00:00 AM | Island Bay | Wellington Olympic |
This seems to be the only acting thread for CF at the moment... Does anyone know how I put in a transfer request these days? Haven't done one for a while... Thanks!
This seems to be the only acting thread for CF at the moment... Does anyone know how I put in a transfer request these days? Haven't done one for a while... Thanks!
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Here is the transfer information https://www.sporty.co.nz/asset/downloadasset?id=dd...
