Rudan has been very loyal in his selections since Singh came back into the XI. I expected him to do some rotation last night, but he didn't. I guess we will only see the midfield change in the starting line up. I guess Nicholls will replace Rufer.
R13 vs Central Coast Mariners | Sat 12 Jan | 7.35pm | Westpac | #KidsGoFree
The idea of Nicholls and Kopa gives me an immediate headache.
Here's hoping CCM really are crap.
Last thing we need right now is to bring in a crowd and lose to the cellar dwellers.
CCM aren't as bad as people think. Will be a tough game.
CCM aren't as bad as people think. Will be a tough game.
2 points from 11 games, with a -19 goal difference? Yeah, they are as bad as people think. Can they still win? Of course. However if a team really thinks of itself as play-off material they should be dispatching the Mariners without too much trouble, a test of how Rudan can motivate the guys.
CCM aren't as bad as people think. Will be a tough game.
2 points from 11 games, with a -19 goal difference? Yeah, they are as bad as people think. Can they still win? Of course. However if a team really thinks of itself as play-off material they should be dispatching the Mariners without too much trouble, a test of how Rudan can motivate the guys.
Have you been watching them play? They are playing some good football, they had Sydney on the ropes until an idiot had a brain fart, they were dominating them. CCM just haven't been able to pull it together for a full game yet. If thet do they will compete with most teams in the league until the lack of squad depth kicks in.
CCM aren't as bad as people think. Will be a tough game.
2 points from 11 games, with a -19 goal difference? Yeah, they are as bad as people think. Can they still win? Of course. However if a team really thinks of itself as play-off material they should be dispatching the Mariners without too much trouble, a test of how Rudan can motivate the guys.
Have you been watching them play? They are playing some good football, they had Sydney on the ropes until an idiot had a brain fart, they were dominating them. CCM just haven't been able to pull it together for a full game yet. If thet do they will compete with most teams in the league until the lack of squad depth kicks in.
Seriously, if they weren't terrible, they wouldn't have only 2 points and such a massive negative goal difference. It's not like they are being judged over just a handful of games - we are almost half way through the season already and they have only two draws to their name. CCM are as bad as people think, simple as that. And we need to beat them to be serious finals contenders.
Nix missing 2 key midfielders. Overconfidence is the last thing the team needs.
CCM will be without Cisse and O'Neil both on suspension. No McCormack obviously but they do have Oar and Hiariej back.
I think Rudan has to show faith in his squad players, so think Nicolls will come in for Rufer, With Fox coming onto the bench.
But would personally like to see Burgess get more of a run and wouldn't mind if Elliot was preferred over Fox for the bench spot, Be great to see him in the match day squad for once.
Nix missing 2 key midfielders. Overconfidence is the last thing the team needs.
Confidence and the belief that they can beat a team that is objectively worse than them, is exactly what the team needs. Years and years of being the underperforming underdog, it's about time the team showed some belief and should go into the game with the mentality that we should smash them (and then do so).
Team will be proper prepared, confidence and self belief is high, we have to win this and we win this.
Nix missing 2 key midfielders. Overconfidence is the last thing the team needs.
Confidence and the belief that they can beat a team that is objectively worse than them, is exactly what the team needs. Years and years of being the underperforming underdog, it's about time the team showed some belief and should go into the game with the mentality that we should smash them (and then do so).
Fatigue and suspensions are a real risk factor for us though.
I won't read much into the gameday squad; I will find it much more interesting to see who sits on the bench. The midfield is not only an issue because we do not normally miss both Mandi and Rufer, but because we do not have much backup to have on the bench if Nicholls is playing.
I am happy with an option of either Sheridan with Krishna upfront, or the Williams / Burns combo with Krishna, as long as there is an opportunity to get a couple of them off in the second half - the game against WSW was played at high tempo until the last minute.
I think the concern is with over confidence, I don't want the team to treat this any differently to playing Melbourne or Sydney and not underestimate our opponents.
That said with Rudan at the helm i don't think it will be a problem.
it's a pretty short season and we're less than half of the way in so fatigue shouldn't be n issue. Players will now prepared to play 27 games
Hopefully we can crack the 10k attendance figure for once! Will be helped by NZ media actually giving phoenix positive media coverage from the last few games. If every member brought one friend each, certainly wouldn't hurt.
$27,000 up for grabs if we do!
Mandi’s ban reduced from 3 to 2 games on appeal – he’s now free to face Melbourne Victory on Sunday week.
— Jason Pine (@pineyzb) January 9, 2019
MRP also issued a suspended sanction of a further one match which will be triggered in the event that Mandi receives another direct red card this season.@WgtnPhoenixFC
I am absolutely shocked that this happened. Genuinely. The argument was sound, but I thought they'd ignore it as per usual.
Great to have him back for the game v Vuc, as I reckon we need him v Antonis/Troisi. (another plus is that Honda should still be out)
It's coming up Millhouse, folks.
Nix missing 2 key midfielders. Overconfidence is the last thing the team needs.
Confidence and the belief that they can beat a team that is objectively worse than them, is exactly what the team needs. Years and years of being the underperforming underdog, it's about time the team showed some belief and should go into the game with the mentality that we should smash them (and then do so).
100% agreed. There is a fine line between confidence and arrogance; but do you not think a team like Victory expect to beat us everytime we show up at theirs? Of course they do. That have that mentality bred by years of winning. We do not yet have that ,and most NZ teams never get it.
Mandi's suspension has been reduced by one match, meaning he's available for the game against the Victory
Contrition and a reasonably clean record I guess-he's no Brandan.
Contrition and a reasonably clean record I guess-he's no Brandan.
It was his first red card since the 15/16 season in La Liga 2.
Last La Liga 2 season for Almeria, he got 8 yellows in 23 games (20 starts).
Contrition and a reasonably clean record I guess-he's no Brandan.
It was his first red card since the 15/16 season in La Liga 2.
Last La Liga 2 season for Almeria, he got 8 yellows in 23 games (20 starts).
That's quite a record
expecting a bumper crowd this week... the team is on a roll and the club is getting good coverage. Someone will be 27k richer by the end of this Saturday.
CCM aren't as bad as people think. Will be a tough game.
2 points from 11 games, with a -19 goal difference? Yeah, they are as bad as people think. Can they still win? Of course. However if a team really thinks of itself as play-off material they should be dispatching the Mariners without too much trouble, a test of how Rudan can motivate the guys.
Have you been watching them play? They are playing some good football, they had Sydney on the ropes until an idiot had a brain fart, they were dominating them. CCM just haven't been able to pull it together for a full game yet. If thet do they will compete with most teams in the league until the lack of squad depth kicks in.
Seriously, if they weren't terrible, they wouldn't have only 2 points and such a massive negative goal difference. It's not like they are being judged over just a handful of games - we are almost half way through the season already and they have only two draws to their name. CCM are as bad as people think, simple as that. And we need to beat them to be serious finals contenders.
Dont bother with but this is a different squad bla bla bla we have done it over a number of seasons with different squads.
As i said im expecting us to win but do think some are getting a little ahead of themselves we are a long way from the finished product and even the gaffer has said that.
we have every right to be confident and eery reason not to be complacent!
How's pax tracking anyone?
VAR and MRP both ruling in the Nix favour in the same week? A modern day miracle...
Roll on Saturday.
The game on Saturday will be Durante 300th A-League game. He has played 259 games for the Phoenix of which he has started in 257 for a total of 22,941 minutes. In total up to Tuesday nights game, he has played 299 with 293 starts for 26,180 minutes.
CCM aren't as bad as people think. Will be a tough game.
2 points from 11 games, with a -19 goal difference? Yeah, they are as bad as people think. Can they still win? Of course. However if a team really thinks of itself as play-off material they should be dispatching the Mariners without too much trouble, a test of how Rudan can motivate the guys.
Have you been watching them play? They are playing some good football, they had Sydney on the ropes until an idiot had a brain fart, they were dominating them. CCM just haven't been able to pull it together for a full game yet. If thet do they will compete with most teams in the league until the lack of squad depth kicks in.
Seriously, if they weren't terrible, they wouldn't have only 2 points and such a massive negative goal difference. It's not like they are being judged over just a handful of games - we are almost half way through the season already and they have only two draws to their name. CCM are as bad as people think, simple as that. And we need to beat them to be serious finals contenders.
I thought only QPR played out of form teams into form?
From the kick off the team needs to go for the throat and not ease off for the full ninety. We need to improve our goal difference.
Outcome of Independent Disciplinary & Ethics Committee Hearing – Armando Sosa Pena (Mandi)
FFA 11 hrs ago
The Football Federation Australia (FFA) independent Disciplinary & Ethics Committee comprising John Marshall SC (Chair), Anthony Lo Surdo SC and Robert Wheatley (the Committee) convened to consider an incident referred to it, which arose in or around the 68th minute of the Hyundai A-League Round 11 Match between Wellington Phoenix and Adelaide United on Saturday, 5 January 2019.
The incident involved Armando Sosa Pena (the Player) of Wellington Phoenix and it resulted in him receiving a direct red card.
In accordance with the Hyundai A-League Disciplinary Regulations, The matter was referred to the Committee by the independent Match Review Panel (MRP). The MRP had jurisdiction to consider the incident as the Player was issued with a direct red card in the match.
The Committee determined that the Player must serve a suspension of two
(2) matches, being the Mandatory Match Suspension plus one (1)
additional Hyundai A-League match. The Committee also issued a suspended
sanction of a further one (1) match which will be triggered in the
event that the Player receives another direct red card up until the
conclusion of the Hyundai A-League 2018/19 Season, including Finals
Series.
As the Player has already served his Mandatory Match Suspension in Wellington Phoenix’s Round 12 match against Western Sydney Wanderers FC, the Player will be ineligible for Wellington Phoenix’s Round 13 match against Central Coast Mariners, which is scheduled for Saturday, 12 January 2019.
The Player has the right to appeal the determination of the Committee. If the Player intends to do so, he must advise FFA within 7 days of receiving the written determination.
As far as i can see they have given Mandi 2 weeks plus another one plus if he gets a red card then another further week
Correct me if Im wrong
I know that they says they cannot play against Western Sydney and and Central Coast but no mention about Melbourne Victory
Hope they check this out I would hate them to play against Victory win and lose the points
I thought only QPR played out of form teams into form?
From the kick off the team needs to go for the throat and not ease off for the full ninety. We need to improve our goal difference.
Nah, Dons have done it for years. It's one of the "joys" of football. It's a cliche but anything can happen. We should be confident but not complacent. Can't wait for this, managing to bring my fiancee's family. My badgering has worked!
The Committee determined that the Player must serve a suspension of two
(2) matches, being the Mandatory Match Suspension plus one (1)
additional Hyundai A-League match.
That says the total suspension is 2 matches, made up of 1 mandatory match suspension + 1 additional match. It would be like you thought if there were a 2nd parenthetic comma after "being the Mandatory Match Suspension". This is ignoring the potential "suspended suspension" (love it!) of another match.
Phoenix bandwagon needs PAX
the pax system is not accurate at all, bought my ticket for saturday after the last home game (cheap ten dollar tickets from guy on concourse) and the pax number is 7464.
CCM aren't as bad as people think. Will be a tough game.
2 points from 11 games, with a -19 goal difference? Yeah, they are as bad as people think. Can they still win? Of course. However if a team really thinks of itself as play-off material they should be dispatching the Mariners without too much trouble, a test of how Rudan can motivate the guys.
Have you been watching them play? They are playing some good football, they had Sydney on the ropes until an idiot had a brain fart, they were dominating them. CCM just haven't been able to pull it together for a full game yet. If thet do they will compete with most teams in the league until the lack of squad depth kicks in.
Seriously, if they weren't terrible, they wouldn't have only 2 points and such a massive negative goal difference. It's not like they are being judged over just a handful of games - we are almost half way through the season already and they have only two draws to their name. CCM are as bad as people think, simple as that. And we need to beat them to be serious finals contenders.
Dont bother with but this is a different squad bla bla bla we have done it over a number of seasons with different squads.
As i said im expecting us to win but do think some are getting a little ahead of themselves we are a long way from the finished product and even the gaffer has said that.
Of course I remember. I'm the first to post something along the lines of 'typical old Nix' everytime we concede near halftime in the match day threads. But anyway, you didn't address my point and went off on a tangent, so I'll leave it at that.
CCM aren't as bad as people think. Will be a tough game.
2 points from 11 games, with a -19 goal difference? Yeah, they are as bad as people think. Can they still win? Of course. However if a team really thinks of itself as play-off material they should be dispatching the Mariners without too much trouble, a test of how Rudan can motivate the guys.
Have you been watching them play? They are playing some good football, they had Sydney on the ropes until an idiot had a brain fart, they were dominating them. CCM just haven't been able to pull it together for a full game yet. If thet do they will compete with most teams in the league until the lack of squad depth kicks in.
Seriously, if they weren't terrible, they wouldn't have only 2 points and such a massive negative goal difference. It's not like they are being judged over just a handful of games - we are almost half way through the season already and they have only two draws to their name. CCM are as bad as people think, simple as that. And we need to beat them to be serious finals contenders.
Honestly I have no idea why you bring up that point (and the good old philosophy 101 fallacy call), as in exactly one post before I literally posted "Can CCM win? Of course they can". I'm not fudgeing stupid.
Honestly I have no idea why you bring up that point (and the good old philosophy 101 fallacy call), as in exactly one post before I literally posted "Can CCM win? Of course they can". I'm not fudgeing stupid.
The point is that we were 10th last year when we beat Melbourne Victory, who were play off material.
We can lose to these guys and still be playoff material, and a team can be not terrible but just not good enough and have faff all points. A couple of games have come down to one silly error or just the way some calls go. They can be bottom of the table and not be terrible, just not be as good as the rest.
It only takes them to play out of their skin, and us drop our defense just enough for CCM to be the best team on the field, and we can still be finals contenders if we recover from it next week.
This is a weird little debate
Honestly I have no idea why you bring up that point (and the good old philosophy 101 fallacy call), as in exactly one post before I literally posted "Can CCM win? Of course they can". I'm not fudgeing stupid.
The point is that we were 10th last year when we beat Melbourne Victory, who were play off material.
We can lose to these guys and still be playoff material, and a team can be not terrible but just not good enough and have faff all points. A couple of games have come down to one silly error or just the way some calls go. They can be bottom of the table and not be terrible, just not be as good as the rest.
It only takes them to play out of their skin, and us drop our defense just enough for CCM to be the best team on the field, and we can still be finals contenders if we recover from it next week.
You make a good point, I'll concede that.
I still believe:
a) that CCM are terrible and the results at the end of the season will reflect that.
and
b) that the Nix going into the game with confidence that they will win rather than an underdog attitude is a good thing.