Tbh, the "she fell over" chant was probably worse than the booing for Roly. I've always thought it was customary to give an ex player a bit of schtick when the come over for a corner, or they take a throw in near the zone, hence the "who are yah" chant. Saw Roly laughing at that actually. Booing him every second of the game is a bit dick, but i'm surprised no one brought up the "she fell over" chant over it. Thought we had some unwritten rule about not using that
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Since when has there been an unwritten rule about using "she fell over" Please dont tell me its some PC bullshark thats been put on us. That would just about be to much after some of the other shark thats gone on.
Was this Mandi's best game in the nix shirt? Not just for the goal but he was everywhere, huge contrast from when he first started with us and his lack of gametime/fitness after coming back from a long term injury. I hope he can keep improving and get to the peak of what he is capable of.
The next person to blame something on political correctness gets a day off. I don't care who it is. Have a civil conversation without resorting to tropes and cliches.
Don't @ me. I'm not in any state to deal with any form of @ing after the last 7 days.
EOM.
Was this Mandi's best game in the nix shirt? Not just for the goal but he was everywhere, huge contrast from when he first started with us and his lack of gametime/fitness after coming back from a long term injury. I hope he can keep improving and get to the peak of what he is capable of.
Did anyone else notice towards the start of the game, Dura did a bit of a run and put a defence splitting through ball to Krishna. It was about a 40 yarder and was inch perfect?
The next person to blame something on political correctness gets a day off. I don't care who it is. Have a civil conversation without resorting to tropes and cliches.
Don't @ me. I'm not in any state to deal with any form of @ing after the last 7 days.
EOM.
Yep, me too. The comment in relation to the ‘she fell over’ chant has finished me off. I personally don’t chant any of this stuff because I don’t reside in the YF zone but to me chants like this are very much part of the game; they add to the atmosphere . . . and as far as I’m concerned if someone is saying you can’t chant stuff like that because it might be offensive or sexist or whatever, then frankly I don’t give a monkeys. There’s too much sadness in this world as we’ve witnessed this last week to be getting uptight about these kinds of things and mounting campaigns to have them stopped. Once you start down that track it’s a slippery slope. And by the way before anyone accuses me of sexism, misogyny or the like I just happen to think that Sarah Gregorious, and before her Narelle Sindoss, is the best addition to the Sky commentary team ever . . . leaving some of her male counterparts for dead. Goodnight.
I prefer the chant "cheat fell over".
And by the way before anyone accuses me of sexism, misogyny or the like I just happen to think that Sarah Gregorious, and before her Narelle Sindoss, is the best addition to the Sky commentary team ever . . . leaving some of her male counterparts for dead. Goodnight.
You've basically 'I can't be racist, some of my best friends are black'ed that. That's some grade A lack of self-awareness.
I genuinely thought it was 'he fell over' all this time and that's what I have been chanting. Hahaha I think i might get my ears checked ...and then will still chant 'he fell over' anyway.
You want my thoughts?
I don't think it's appropriate or accurate.
I don't know if you've watched the women's game much but you are far more likely to see Christiano Ronaldo hit the deck under no contact than you are Amy Morgan, so how does 'she fell over' make any sense? That chant suggests the likes of Sarah Gregorious are weaker people and/or more likely to feign an injury in a game of football which is quite clearly not the case. Pretty sure in a tackle she'd break both my legs.
Further to that people should be able to offer that view without a pile of whataboutery and allegations of 'political correctness'. It's not political it's just respectful. Times change, it's not the 1950s anymore or the 1980s English terraces. The chant is embarrassing for it's sexism and for it's inaccuracy.
It may not stop happening on our terraces but offering an opinion that it doesn't seem right deserves more than the tired responses and maybe some informed and thoughtful debate.
Screaming political correctness and showing a lack of understanding about other peoples opinions or beliefs has caused enough codery in this world.
Was this Mandi's best game in the nix shirt? Not just for the goal but he was everywhere, huge contrast from when he first started with us and his lack of gametime/fitness after coming back from a long term injury. I hope he can keep improving and get to the peak of what he is capable of.
Mandi confuses me. There are so many good things about his game yet at times he can be genuinely awful, eg, against Sydney recently. With the finishing line of the season in sight I'm not sure we can expect much more of an improvement and I find it odd that even now he's running out of puff and getting subbed off every game.
I'm probably being too harsh on him but that's because he's a visa player and you really need top value for money from them. But I guess if he was a better player we would've never got him in the first place.
I used to try my "Submarine, dive, dive, dive" chant but no one supported it.
I genuinely thought it was 'he fell over' all this time and that's what I have been chanting. Hahaha I think i might get my ears checked ...and then will still chant 'he fell over' anyway.
I've said cheat fell over since I<3Nix suggested it as an alternative years ago.
I can never tell if people are saying she, he or cheat because it all becomes the background sound to what I'm yelling in my head.
But yea "she fell over" is some antiquated sexist BS that is unnecessary since there are plenty of non sexist choices.
I used to try my "Submarine, dive, dive, dive" chant but no one supported it.
Your preferred choice got torpedoed.
I used to try my "Submarine, dive, dive, dive" chant but no one supported it.
Your preferred choice got torpedoed.
Maybe more people will join in if they are pier pressured.
I wonder if more alternative chants will surface.
who are you conning?
You want my thoughts?
I don't think it's appropriate or accurate.
I don't know if you've watched the women's game much but you are far more likely to see Christiano Ronaldo hit the deck under no contact than you are Amy Morgan, so how does 'she fell over' make any sense? That chant suggests the likes of Sarah Gregorious are weaker people and/or more likely to feign an injury in a game of football which is quite clearly not the case. Pretty sure in a tackle she'd break both my legs.
Further to that people should be able to offer that view without a pile of whataboutery and allegations of 'political correctness'. It's not political it's just respectful. Times change, it's not the 1950s anymore or the 1980s English terraces. The chant is embarrassing for it's sexism and for it's inaccuracy.
It may not stop happening on our terraces but offering an opinion that it doesn't seem right deserves more than the tired responses and maybe some informed and thoughtful debate.
Screaming political correctness and showing a lack of understanding about other peoples opinions or beliefs has caused enough codery in this world.
for crying out loud it’s part of the culture of football. Pros are not shrinking violets; can’t imagine any would get upset about a bit of booing from supporters of a previous club. They understand it’s not vicious or represents hatred. More PC gone mad.
'PC gone mad' - alright mate, jog on. We just don't think Bonevacia in particular deserves the treatment, and it's a bit fudgeing stupid doing it when football is completely secondary at the moment.
Also, only fudgeing idiots use the term 'PC gone mad'. So, you're a fudgeing idiot. Cheers.
I'm quoting in addition to thising. New Zealand is a different country than it was on Friday.
Some of what people like to call "PC" can get over the top but the general gist of it is to respect each other, doesn't sound too bad right?
Was this Mandi's best game in the nix shirt? Not just for the goal but he was everywhere, huge contrast from when he first started with us and his lack of gametime/fitness after coming back from a long term injury. I hope he can keep improving and get to the peak of what he is capable of.
Mandi confuses me. There are so many good things about his game yet at times he can be genuinely awful, eg, against Sydney recently. With the finishing line of the season in sight I'm not sure we can expect much more of an improvement and I find it odd that even now he's running out of puff and getting subbed off every game.
I'm probably being too harsh on him but that's because he's a visa player and you really need top value for money from them. But I guess if he was a better player we would've never got him in the first place.
He is the best midfielder we had in a long time. He came as a late injury clouded signing and I'm not sure what we have done without him. He does all the midfield things well, intercept passes, holds the ball and distributes it. A real work horse. I rate him.
Former "She fell over!" Chanter here. Stopped participating in it because I felt it wasn't right to use 'she' as an insult, there's nothing wrong with being a 'she'. It implies that being a female somehow makes you lesser. It doesn't really insult the player that dived like a filthy cheater, it only really insults women for their gender being used as a derogatory term.
As for the 'There’s too much sadness in this world as we’ve witnessed this last week to be getting uptight about these kinds of things' comments, yeah a portion of the sadness in the world can be attributed to men thinking they're superior to women and jokes/comments that sympathize with this position. You're right, there is too much sadness in the world, so lets try make the Fever a happy place, for both ladies and gentlemen :)
If you don't think the word 'she' in the chant is supposed to cause offence, then surely it takes away nothing to use the word 'he' or 'cheat' right?
Also, who was the player who's pass was intercepted for the lead up to WSW's goal?
Tate Russell, WSW RB
Was this Mandi's best game in the nix shirt? Not just for the goal but he was everywhere, huge contrast from when he first started with us and his lack of gametime/fitness after coming back from a long term injury. I hope he can keep improving and get to the peak of what he is capable of.
Mandi confuses me. There are so many good things about his game yet at times he can be genuinely awful, eg, against Sydney recently. With the finishing line of the season in sight I'm not sure we can expect much more of an improvement and I find it odd that even now he's running out of puff and getting subbed off every game.
I'm probably being too harsh on him but that's because he's a visa player and you really need top value for money from them. But I guess if he was a better player we would've never got him in the first place.
He is the best midfielder we had in a long time. He came as a late injury clouded signing and I'm not sure what we have done without him. He does all the midfield things well, intercept passes, holds the ball and distributes it. A real work horse. I rate him.
Exactly, he's so much better than anyone we've had because (a) his technical level is much higher and (b) he understands how to change the tempo of a game, he can play slow or quick and it makes a huge difference
When does Mandi's contract with us end? Surely he'd be someone we'd be keen to hold onto next year. With a proper pre-season under his belt, who knows what he could offer us next year?
Pretty sure he's on a one year deal.
for crying out loud it’s part of the culture of football. Pros are not shrinking violets; can’t imagine any would get upset about a bit of booing from supporters of a previous club. They understand it’s not vicious or represents hatred. More PC gone mad.
'PC gone mad' - alright mate, jog on. We just don't think Bonevacia in particular deserves the treatment, and it's a bit fudgeing stupid doing it when football is completely secondary at the moment.
Also, only fudgeing idiots use the term 'PC gone mad'. So, you're a fudgeing idiot. Cheers.
I'm quoting in addition to thising. New Zealand is a different country than it was on Friday.
Some of what people like to call "PC" can get over the top but the general gist of it is to respect each other, doesn't sound too bad right?
Pretty sure he's on a one year deal.
Every new signing, other than Taylor with his 1+1 club option, was signed to a one-year deal including Kurto. Sheridan and Gulley have half season deals.
Former "She fell over!" Chanter here. Stopped participating in it because I felt it wasn't right to use 'she' as an insult, there's nothing wrong with being a 'she'. It implies that being a female somehow makes you lesser. It doesn't really insult the player that dived like a filthy cheater, it only really insults women for their gender being used as a derogatory term.
As for the 'There’s too much sadness in this world as we’ve witnessed this last week to be getting uptight about these kinds of things' comments, yeah a portion of the sadness in the world can be attributed to men thinking they're superior to women and jokes/comments that sympathize with this position. You're right, there is too much sadness in the world, so lets try make the Fever a happy place, for both ladies and gentlemen :)
If you don't think the word 'she' in the chant is supposed to cause offence, then surely it takes away nothing to use the word 'he' or 'cheat' right?
Agree. Plus, the chance of me taking my young daughter to a game where people chant that garbage is zero percent
it was (Roly's) wife who wanted to leave. She thought Wellington was too small and quiet, plus wasn't a fan of seismic activity either.
Lots of WAGs seem to have a problem living in Wellington.
They just haven't met me yet
Former "She fell over!" Chanter here. Stopped participating in it because I felt it wasn't right to use 'she' as an insult, there's nothing wrong with being a 'she'. It implies that being a female somehow makes you lesser. It doesn't really insult the player that dived like a filthy cheater, it only really insults women for their gender being used as a derogatory term.
As for the 'There’s too much sadness in this world as we’ve witnessed this last week to be getting uptight about these kinds of things' comments, yeah a portion of the sadness in the world can be attributed to men thinking they're superior to women and jokes/comments that sympathize with this position. You're right, there is too much sadness in the world, so lets try make the Fever a happy place, for both ladies and gentlemen :)
If you don't think the word 'she' in the chant is supposed to cause offence, then surely it takes away nothing to use the word 'he' or 'cheat' right?
There is certainly too much "Im so offended" in this world.
Former "She fell over!" Chanter here. Stopped participating in it because I felt it wasn't right to use 'she' as an insult, there's nothing wrong with being a 'she'. It implies that being a female somehow makes you lesser. It doesn't really insult the player that dived like a filthy cheater, it only really insults women for their gender being used as a derogatory term.
As for the 'There’s too much sadness in this world as we’ve witnessed this last week to be getting uptight about these kinds of things' comments, yeah a portion of the sadness in the world can be attributed to men thinking they're superior to women and jokes/comments that sympathize with this position. You're right, there is too much sadness in the world, so lets try make the Fever a happy place, for both ladies and gentlemen :)
If you don't think the word 'she' in the chant is supposed to cause offence, then surely it takes away nothing to use the word 'he' or 'cheat' right?
There is certainly too much "Im so offended" in this world.
Oops, accidental endorsement. Need to be able to undo endorsements!
Former "She fell over!" Chanter here. Stopped participating in it because I felt it wasn't right to use 'she' as an insult, there's nothing wrong with being a 'she'. It implies that being a female somehow makes you lesser. It doesn't really insult the player that dived like a filthy cheater, it only really insults women for their gender being used as a derogatory term.
As for the 'There’s too much sadness in this world as we’ve witnessed this last week to be getting uptight about these kinds of things' comments, yeah a portion of the sadness in the world can be attributed to men thinking they're superior to women and jokes/comments that sympathize with this position. You're right, there is too much sadness in the world, so lets try make the Fever a happy place, for both ladies and gentlemen :)
If you don't think the word 'she' in the chant is supposed to cause offence, then surely it takes away nothing to use the word 'he' or 'cheat' right?
There is certainly too much "Im so offended" in this world.
Lol I'm not sure whether to take the bait and dignify this with a response
I am TOTALLY starting the "We've got the best cisgender team in the League" change next game I'm at
I am TOTALLY starting the "We've got the best cisgender team in the League" change next game I'm at
Na bollocks , im not joiningg in the "We've got the best cis gender team, in the league" rubbish.
There is certainly too much "Im so offended" in this world.
Boy, has this bloke failed to read the room or what?
Former "She fell over!" Chanter here. Stopped participating in it because I felt it wasn't right to use 'she' as an insult, there's nothing wrong with being a 'she'. It implies that being a female somehow makes you lesser. It doesn't really insult the player that dived like a filthy cheater, it only really insults women for their gender being used as a derogatory term.
As for the 'There’s too much sadness in this world as we’ve witnessed this last week to be getting uptight about these kinds of things' comments, yeah a portion of the sadness in the world can be attributed to men thinking they're superior to women and jokes/comments that sympathize with this position. You're right, there is too much sadness in the world, so lets try make the Fever a happy place, for both ladies and gentlemen :)
If you don't think the word 'she' in the chant is supposed to cause offence, then surely it takes away nothing to use the word 'he' or 'cheat' right?
There is certainly too much "Im so offended" in this world.
I really don't get the objection. It's not PC to say that using a gender as an insult is a dick move.
The moment someone mentioned that is was so clear, I don't get the objection to not being sexist.