It's an interesting one. I'm guessing, from a sponsorship point of view, the exposure wouldn't be as much, so the "bigger" players wouldn't be aboard, so it might need a number of smaller scale sponsorships.
Excuse my ignorance, but are W League games shown live on Aussie TV? Or highlights?
They don't have a TV deal in Aussie after it was cancelled by the broadcaster. As an interesting aside, I don't think they have one in the US either. I gathered that from reading an interview on the inside back page of Time Magazine this week.
A lot will come down to businesses who see it as a good fit for their brand, and can make it work for them even if the exposure isn't that great. I think it'd be good for Mojo as a way of growing and strengthening their partnership with the Nix.
I can see them using the bigger profile of the Central Pulse (who they sponsor as well) to help boost the profile of the Lady Nix if they decided to do some kind of marketing/PR event like the barista challenge they had between the Nix Mens and the Pulse this year (was on 3 News Sports). There's ways to make it work for them. Plus they'd get some exposure in Australia if they were looking to expand across the ditch.
Wiki says they are looking for a W-League broadcaster after ABC dropped it in 2014.
They don't have a TV deal in Aussie after it was cancelled by the broadcaster. As an interesting aside, I don't think they have one in the US either. I gathered that from reading an interview on the inside back page of Time Magazine this week.
Some of the American teams stream their games for free or have them on youtube, and I think only one charges for it.
I think it's a great way to get people watching them and growing the profile of the game. Would be good to see a highlights package/full games on the likes of Prime in the case of the W-League (and A-League)
Would our season tickets cover both the mens and womens teams?
Would our season tickets cover both the mens and womens teams?
Would our season tickets cover both the mens and womens teams?
Hahaha
I’m banging my head against the wall, despite a number of very good reasons articulated in here on why Women’s football is likely to flounder the only responses to the contrary are things like:
For God’s sake, will somebody please tell me, how this will work when no other women’s sport in NZ [and I think Australia] has been able to go professional and sustain it? If the Nix are losing money running a men’s team/s, why on earth would they want to lose more money by having a women’s team that has no show of making money?
Anyone?
What has been missed though is that there is still a lack of recognisable female NZ football role-models in the kiwi/women's sporting conscious.
For us here on the forum, we know that only the women have had players make 100+ full international caps, I'm betting most people who follow NZ football, male or female, would not know that.
While many many kiwis will be familiar with the likes of Ryan Nelsen, Wynton Rufer, Winston Reid, Shane smeltz etc, how many would know Maia Jackman, Abby Erceg (Highest capped player male or female), Amber Hern (Highest goal scorer male or female), Ria Percival etc.
Women's football needs the same awareness and recognition that women's rugby and netball gets and if a FeNix team does it, so be it.
can't say I could name a women's rugby player
but you can probably name some netball players right?
probably just Katrina Grant and Van Dyke. I know the full Ferns team though.
who ever said the team had to be 'fully' pro? Why can't it be semi pro? At least to begin with - whilst developing academies etc at the same time...
who ever said the team had to be 'fully' pro? Why can't it be semi pro? At least to begin with - whilst developing academies etc at the same time...
Good luck trying to hold down a job playing for a ream playing in an Australian competition.
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While many many kiwis will be familiar with the likes of Ryan Nelsen, Wynton Rufer, Winston Reid, Shane smeltz etc, how many would know Maia Jackman, Abby Erceg (Highest capped player male or female), Amber Hern (Highest goal scorer male or female), Ria Percival etc.
And Jenny Bindon! Whom I want to be when I grow up.
can't say I could name a women's rugby player
Louisa Wall.
She is an ex player
They don't have a TV deal in Aussie after it was cancelled by the broadcaster. As an interesting aside, I don't think they have one in the US either. I gathered that from reading an interview on the inside back page of Time Magazine this week.
Pretty sure that the ABC has live games.
After watching the opening two games here in Canada and seeing all the young Canadian girls proudly wearing their female club team shirts/women's national team shirts, I can't help but think a women's team (only needs to be semi pro) would do wonders for the Nix and NZs many girls and young women.
It was a great atmosphere yesterday.
Having a female football team would give womern here something to strive for if they love their football. Not m,uch good from going local league to International. Here is a step ladder for them to get some sort of balance and experience. I believe there is a place for it. Some of the women at the U17 WC here showed more skill and ability than some of the guys currently at the U20.
Having a female football team would give womern here something to strive for if they love their football. Not m,uch good from going local league to International. Here is a step ladder for them to get some sort of balance and experience. I believe there is a place for it. Some of the women at the U17 WC here showed more skill and ability than some of the guys currently at the U20.
How much local league football do you watch?
Ridiculous statement at the end there btw
an interesting article relating to the world cup in Canada and the womens game ...
Except NP is older than 42.
Shots fired.
the eternal men/women war: team spoof v team egg
I’m banging my head against the wall, despite a number of very good reasons articulated in here on why Women’s football is likely to flounder the only responses to the contrary are things like:
For God’s sake, will somebody please tell me, how this will work when no other women’s sport in NZ [and I think Australia] has been able to go professional and sustain it? If the Nix are losing money running a men’s team/s, why on earth would they want to lose more money by having a women’s team that has no show of making money?
Anyone?
I’m banging my head against the wall, despite a number of very good reasons articulated in here on why Women’s football is likely to flounder the only responses to the contrary are things like:
We should have a women’s pro team because we have a men’s one.It would be good to have a pro team because I’d come and watch it [once].There are so many women playing professionally overseas that we should have a team here.If we had a team here, they would all come back and play for sixpence.We will be able to support it because sport NZ will fund it.It will automatically get a TV deal because it just will.Because you don’t think anyone will watch it, I’ll get together a group of radical lesbians and they will kick your old white [allegedly] ass.
For God’s sake, will somebody please tell me, how this will work when no other women’s sport in NZ [and I think Australia] has been able to go professional and sustain it? If the Nix are losing money running a men’s team/s, why on earth would they want to lose more money by having a women’s team that has no show of making money?
Anyone?
If the sponsor that is pushing for the women's team is Huawei, I would not be at all surprised if most, if not all, of the funding would come from sponsorship, making it at least a cost-neutral proposition. The major cost to an NZ team would be travel, especially if they have to cover expenses for visiting teams, but if Huawei finds the benefit to themselves is greater than the cost of underwriting the Fe-nix, then they could simply increase their sponsorship of the Nix as a whole in accordance with the cost.
Does anyone know what the per-season numbers are on the Huawei deal? Because the obvious pitfall for my theory is that they don't actually put that much into the Nix as it is.
The club would probably be making the biggest profit in the league with a deal that big.
If we only funded sports teams to make a profit, there wouldnt be a Phoenix to support..
So who funds the Phoenix?
From memory, paraphrasing, was there some sort of consensus that it's in NZF's interests to push this along a bit.
not. going . to . happen
not. going . to . happen
Good stuff. Hope it happens
Nix on a Saturday, SheNix and WeeNix on Sundays on alternating weekends at Newtown. Perfect!
Nix on a Saturday, SheNix and WeeNix on Sundays on alternating weekends at Newtown. Perfect!
I prefer Nixie Chicks, but I'd definitely make a trip or two a year to see them whatever the name.
Great piece from Ella, its hard to argue against that a W-League team is the natural progression for women's football in NZ becoming more professional. Looking forward to the Nix taking more steps for it to happen (and to NZF/FFA throwing up less barriers going forward).
It's good seeing that if the Nix get a W League team that the same resources will be available to them.
It should go without saying, but doesn't always.
Crossed fingers it happens sooner rather than later.
