All Whites, Ferns, and other international teams

Age restriction on switching countries removed

37 replies · 1,115 views
almost 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Age restriction on switching countries removed
Permalink Permalink
almost 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Interesting article, some UK based players are back in our sights

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/feedarticle/8539751
Permalink Permalink
almost 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Hard News wrote:
That's a HUGE bit of news.


Yes, who can we think of:

Fallon
McGlinchey?
Permalink Permalink
almost 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
So who does that clear the way for us to select? Fallon,who else?
Permalink Permalink
almost 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Archie  (yes, i know capped for Aus - it was a joke).

I'm thinking more the likes of Winston Reid and Tommy Smith in the next three or four years.

How's my driving? - Whine here

Permalink Permalink
almost 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Winston Reid, Rory Fallon, McGlinchey, I'm sure there's another.
Permalink Permalink
almost 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
loyalgunner wrote:
Winston Reid, Rory Fallon, McGlinchey, I'm sure there's another.
 
Alsum stuff. whoses  McGlinchey?
Permalink Permalink
almost 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
has tommy smith even played for england's age group teams yet?
Permalink Permalink
almost 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Winston Reid can still be selected for Demark's National Team yet because he is that good enough and when that happens, then we are totally screwed in his case.

Micheal McGlinchey (age 22) has been recently released from Celtic with a little injury. Whilst a midfielder, he could be up front as an striker as well.

Is Rory Fallon good enough now that we have Chris Killen, Shane Smeltz and Chris Woods plus Kris Bright and Jarrod Smith floating about up front?

Are we going to see the three Chris attacking strategy ever?

I am sure we have a few Australians in our scope as well.

Anyway, that is big news but then the climb up the ranking table has just got that much harder for us compare to other mid-table national teams.AllWhitebelievr2009-06-04 13:59:17
Permalink Permalink
almost 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Daniel on a good day.  This is such sweet news.
Permalink Permalink
almost 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Winston Reid can still be selected for Demark's National Team yet because he is that good enough and when that happens, then we are totally screwed in his case.

Micheal McGlinchey (age 22) has been recently released from Celtic with a little injury. Whilst a midfielder, he could be up front as an striker as well.

Is Rory Fallon good enough now that we have Chris Killen, Shane Smeltz and Chris Woods plus Kris Bright and Jarrod Smith floating about up front?

Are we going to see the three Chris attacking strategy ever?

I am sure we have a few Australians in our scope as well.

Anyway, that is big news but then the climb up the ranking table has just got that much harder for us compare to other mid-table national teams.
 
If a club is willing to pay �300,000 to transfer you then you must be good
Permalink Permalink
almost 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
edward l wrote:
Daniel on a good day.� This is such sweet news.


Daniel should be available for selection by the World Cup Qualifying Playoff Game against the fifth placed Asian Team, I think.
Permalink Permalink
almost 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Kezzah01 wrote:
Winston Reid can still be selected for Demark's National Team yet because he is that good enough and when that happens, then we are totally screwed in his case. Micheal McGlinchey (age 22) has been recently released from Celtic with a little injury. Whilst a midfielder, he could be up front as an striker as well. Is Rory Fallon good enough now that we have Chris Killen, Shane Smeltz and Chris Woods plus Kris Bright and Jarrod Smith floating about up front? Are we going to see the three Chris attacking strategy ever? I am sure we have a few Australians in our scope as well. Anyway, that is big news but then the climb up the ranking table has just got that much harder for us compare to other mid-table national teams.



�

If a club is willing to pay �300,000 to transfer you then you must be good


That was early Jan 2007, since then he had about 80 appearances for the Championship side Plymouth Argyle for 13 goals and his club contract is ending by the end of this month of June. Also a Japanese Business man is looking to takeover the club ownership in the next few weeks. So his performance will be assessed very soon. The stats may not to be good enough for him to stick around. He has been off the bench a number of times during the season.

Anyway, I mean good enough to overtake Killen, Smeltz and Wood up front, his goals per game is not as impressive as theirs and he maybe better as an attacking midfielder rather than striker in the internationals.
Permalink Permalink
almost 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Kezzah01 wrote:
Winston Reid can still be selected for Demark's National Team yet because he is that good enough and when that happens, then we are totally screwed in his case. Micheal McGlinchey (age 22) has been recently released from Celtic with a little injury. Whilst a midfielder, he could be up front as an striker as well. Is Rory Fallon good enough now that we have Chris Killen, Shane Smeltz and Chris Woods plus Kris Bright and Jarrod Smith floating about up front? Are we going to see the three Chris attacking strategy ever? I am sure we have a few Australians in our scope as well. Anyway, that is big news but then the climb up the ranking table has just got that much harder for us compare to other mid-table national teams.

 

If a club is willing to pay �300,000 to transfer you then you must be good


That was early Jan 2007, since then he had about 80 appearances for the Championship side Plymouth Argyle for 13 goals and his club contract is ending by the end of this month of June. Also a Japanese Business man is looking to takeover the club ownership in the next few weeks. So his performance will be assessed very soon. The stats may not to be good enough for him to stick around. He has been off the bench a number of times during the season.

Anyway, I mean good enough to overtake Killen, Smeltz and Wood up front, his goals per game is not as impressive as theirs and he maybe better as an attacking midfielder rather than striker in the internationals.
 
Does anyone know if Fallon would even want to play for NZ?
 
If he were available, and Ricki wanted him, could we get just Rory on his own, or would Dad (Kevin) come as well? 
 
Permalink Permalink
almost 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I think it would silly not to consider trying international matches, there is no chance he would play for England at the moment, he still not playing at EPL level to stake such a claim. NZ has playing against very strong teams in the last four years.

There will be no Kevin Fallon involved.


Permalink Permalink
almost 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
He tried to get an excemption when the rule came in but left it too late.  He'd like to play for NZ.

How's my driving? - Whine here

Permalink Permalink
almost 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Its top news,
 
Who knows who might pop out of the woodwork. Fallom would be a shoe in to make the squad, he's been playing in the championship for a few years now so will far fitter and match hardened in a tougher environment than players like Bright.
 
Mcglinchey would be good as we need another wide player to come in to push James back in to the center, makes our squad look quite a bit better i think. Not good news for a few fringe players. 
Permalink Permalink
almost 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
While I'm sure Ricki and co know about this new change in rules I'm worried they won't do anything about it.  Would love to see Fallon and McGlinchey in a NZ football top, and Winston Reid, unlikely though it is, that would be brilliant.
Permalink Permalink
almost 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
loyalgunner wrote:
While I'm sure Ricki and co know about this new change in rules I'm worried they won't do anything about it.  Would love to see Fallon and McGlinchey in a NZ football top, and Winston Reid, unlikely though it is, that would be brilliant.


Here here, this news has made me very happy after the loss to Tanzania.  Bright, one would assume would be on the outer after this.
Supporter world's best and worst football teams: Waikato/WaiBop, Kingz, Knights, Phoenix, The Argyle, The Whites & the All Whites

Permalink Permalink
almost 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
TouchMe wrote:
Fallom would be a shoe in to make the squad, he's been playing in the championship for a few years now so will far fitter and match hardened in a tougher environment�than players like Bright.

�

Think you're underestimating the level Bright's playing at atm.
Permalink Permalink
almost 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Was talking to Fallon's brother in Perth regarding Rory playing for NZ. His comment was that he wouldn't be interested as it would have too much of an impact on him getting back into the starting 11 on returning from international duty for NZ!!!!
That hasn't come from Rory's mouth, but his brother's mouth.For the life of me I don't know his first name.
Will go and talk to him again now that the goal posts have moved.
He owns a icon shop at Lakeside Joondalup Shopping Centre. 
And the old All Whites  come NZ Nights coach ( Big John) was seen flying out of Perth Airport last Friday night.
I know his mother lives over here.
Permalink Permalink
almost 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Should read Knights, my mistake!!!!
Permalink Permalink
almost 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
When foes this come into effect? now?
Permalink Permalink
almost 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
el grapadura wrote:
TouchMe wrote:
Fallom would be a shoe in to make the squad, he's been playing in the championship for a few years now so will far fitter and match hardened in a tougher environment than players like Bright.

 


Think you're underestimating the level Bright's playing at atm.
 
Hes playing in the Beta Ethniki is the second highest professional football league in Greece next year (09/10) and made 6 appearances this year for no return.
Permalink Permalink
almost 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
But those appeareances came in the top division in Greece. Which is ranked in the top 12 in Europe I believe.el grapadura2009-06-04 21:39:43
Permalink Permalink
almost 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
el grapadura wrote:
He's not at Panserraikos anymore?
 
Yea they got relegated
Permalink Permalink
almost 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Team Loaded is the best futsal team in the world.el grapadura2009-06-04 21:41:49
Permalink Permalink
almost 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
perthphoenix wrote:
Was talking to Fallon's brother in Perth regarding Rory playing for NZ. His comment was that he wouldn't be interested as it would have too much of an impact on him getting back into the starting 11 on returning from international duty for NZ!!!!

That hasn't come from Rory's mouth, but his brother's mouth.


Well it depends on his headspace really. He should be available for NZ during the FIFA International Windows when professional clubs can't play during that time. So it doesn't affect his starting 11.

It is more of the case of injuries while on International duties versus club commitment. Club foots the bill but it really silly talk as injuries can happen anywhere and at anytime including club time and such predictions are really soothsaying. Like in Ryan Nelson case, there has been talks between club and country with the country losing out more than club with his injuries. The other factor is his club manager/coach and how things are at his club.

He shouldn't really turn down a chance and these things can be negotiable between the club manager and the national coach. As it most probably likely to happen than not he won't be that available until it comes to WC qualifiers, WC finals and Confederations Cups.

Having international representation helps with the Player's CV when club hunting and those club who buys him knows how to treat their International Rep players in the club. It's a fact of the club system. His players price will increase after a good international showing as well which helps the club in selling him to a high bidder.

He should not underestimate what it could do for him.
Permalink Permalink
almost 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
el grapadura wrote:
Team Loaded is the best futsal team in the world.
Os Desesperados FTW
You know we belong together...

Permalink Permalink
almost 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Winston Reid can still be selected for Demark's National Team yet because he is that good enough and when that happens, then we are totally screwed in his case.

Micheal McGlinchey (age 22) has been recently released from Celtic with a little injury. Whilst a midfielder, he could be up front as an striker as well.

Is Rory Fallon good enough now that we have Chris Killen, Shane Smeltz and Chris Woods plus Kris Bright and Jarrod Smith floating about up front?

Are we going to see the three Chris attacking strategy ever?

I am sure we have a few Australians in our scope as well.

Anyway, that is big news but then the climb up the ranking table has just got that much harder for us compare to other mid-table national teams.
 
Hope the Phoenix will move for Michael McGlinchey, until  recently at Celtic, as he's looking for a club and not so long ago was a Scotland u-19 and u-20 rep. Would be fitting for him to play for the Nix as he was born in Wellington in 1988 (his Scottish dad used to play for Mirimar).
 
He trialled at Toronto FC in the MLS in February but didn't sign (Toronto would have had to pay a transfer as he was  still under contract then).
 
Celtic fans on blogs rate him highly but they reckon the pressure got to him after showing much initial promise. He might still have a lot to offer. Not too sure how bad his recent injury was- he last played on loan to Dunfermline.
 
Kiwis being so well-travelled, there's bound to be some other candidates turning up...
 
 
 

Big Pete 65, Christchurch

Permalink Permalink
almost 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Internationals do tend to be valued more highly, even though they may have the extra travel and games clubs like them as it puts their club on the map, especially in the lower divisions.  Players will come there knowing they can play international football.

Normo's coming home

Permalink Permalink
almost 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Re: Miglinchy
 
(a) he's really not a kiwi
 
(b) this rule won't change anything with regards to him will it?  Do you mean that he won't be considered an overseas player?

Normo's coming home

Permalink Permalink
almost 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
He's as much a kiwi as anyone else born in Wellington!!
 
We need mid field players, it is clearly our weakest area in NZ football, why trun down one who can actually play there??
 
Sign him up to the nix and New Zealand now!!!
Permalink Permalink
almost 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
james dean wrote:
Re: Miglinchy

�

(a) he's really not a kiwi

�

(b) this rule won't change anything with regards to him will it?� Do you mean that he won't be considered an overseas player?


??

a.) I understood he is Kiwi

b.) He's 22 now but didn't apply to change before age 21. But this means that later if he isn't selected for them, then it opens doors for us still and also gives him hope to play internationals for NZ like playing against Brazil, Italy, Spain etc as it comes round to Confederations and with extra warms games being Oceania's Champions.

He was undecided then and now the door has been open after the age of 21, he is undecided again.

But if I am Ricki, I will give him a wee trial to check how good he has become.

I still don't understand why we don't have national team trials to display the talent about and give fringe players a taste of what level they should be challenging for. I would love to see a Central, Southern and Northern select teams play against each other. Or a possibles and a probable team trial afterwards. I like to see some provincial pride.
Permalink Permalink
almost 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
If you think about it, the likes of Paul Seaman, Graham Fyfe,Daniel Kirkup, Greg Walters, Neil Emblen and Darren Bazeley in the NZFC comes into the frame if they were good enough.

Someone young and of their irk could end up in the NZ team in the future one day.

Another trivial reason to have another A-league team from NZ?
Permalink Permalink