All White Schools

All White Schools

OK, I want to find out which NZ secondary schools have produced the most All Whites. Once we have a top 5 we may look to recognise somehow. If we could eventually produce a league table of sorts that we could update year to year that would be even better - but first things first. Marius Lacatus2007-12-20 12:36:01

great idea,

a bit of  a nightmare to collate initially, but interesting as well

be a great holiday job for a football mad student if NZF stumped up a few days wages - or a university project for a third year or grad student (not sure what discipline though)



(it's a shame we are too ethical to penalise any school Winston Peters went to with minus 5 'votes')
tigers2007-12-20 12:48:16

Chris Killen, Wynton Rufer = Rongotai College santy2007-12-20 14:06:20

Thinking about which high school to send Ted to already? 

NZ secondary schools should just butt out of football and leave the kids at the clubs that develop them in the first place.

 

Kings College Auckland = 4 age group that I know of but that's it :-(

maybe so from a skills point of view, but school sports can lift the profile of football with the players' peer group via players from other sports watching on sports exchange days and via player trophies at prize-giving etc

and things like winter tournament are great for the players

I'm with Nightz on this one...

  If it makes you any happier, i dont care if they played for their school or their club, i just want to know what school they went to.

I agree with nightz too. We should be hnouring the clubs that produce them, not the schools. After all, it's the clubs that really put the time and money into football.

sounds like we could acknowledge both the schools and the clubs, if we can

if it's about raising the profile of football, I do think the schools have a huge role to play - given the traditional rugby dominance - therefore recognising schools that have contributed (even if they've done so indirectly) would seem a good move

even an email to all nz high schools would (slightly) raise their conciousness about football

If we are talking about former All Whites then Michael Utting went to Onslow College (according to an old Listener article I just read)

You cant bang on the schools.. the top football schools in nz all have good football programmes these days.. they lay the foundations for the future.

Wellington College had 5 NZSS U15s, 2 NZ U15s, a NZSS, an NZ U20 this year. As well as Tim Brown and Leo Bertos as current All Whites (you could debatably include Simon Elliot).Dave572007-12-23 21:01:16

Mairehau High School - Jermery Brockie (sp?)

Didnt brockie go to nayland??? With Mike white

Brockie definitely spent some of his later high school years at Nayland (don't know if he was at another school before), and played for the Suburbs club in Stoke (Nelson). I used to play against him all the time for my club (Nelson City) and we usually got thrashed.

i went go 2 nayland college. jeremy brockie was there when i was.

nayland has got 3rd the last 2 times at nationals. and in this years comp1 of the players got tournament MVP.and also had 2 NZ U15 players. theres definatly more future all whites there. Luis Garcia2007-12-27 14:09:11

jamesnz2007-12-28 08:27:15

Rangitoto College on Aucklands North Shore has produced Tim Stevens, Jeff Campbell, Daniel Ellensohn and Jacob Spoonley.  Also did Lee Jones play for the All Whites as he went there too!

Great idea to collate, celebrate and not denegrate (sorry publicise didn't rhyme).

Well. . . Sort of. . . they have reasonable part-time football programmes but never up to the full-time football programmes that are now in many overseas schools.. . . we don't have the infrastructure in the schools for that.

We need full immersion programmes at secondary school stage and no school would dare to touch that type of intensity and its a different package that board of education may not have any special avenues to go down. Besides you need a top school age coaches of at least (dare I say it) fallon fanatic level but a top manager/organiser of wynton rufer level.

Also. . . besides having secondary schools. . . primary school soccer team is really where the basic programmes like small whites should aim at. There are lots of clubs that is not following that programme in it's basic form because they are underfunded and underresourced and are simply lazy. Where as a primary school are better structured and have sufficult resources and are still available for community funding as the clubs do. And the recruiting of better parent and teachers for the grassroot football team.

As for most secondary schools, if they don't encourage young players to co-join a senior club, then they should be at least have a club assigned to help with the school's football programme.

I see that the local clubs should have an active community role to the local school and should have team mergers between the school and clubs on the local scene rather than isolation policy. School is part of the child's life and is an assumed activity but clubs are not always seen by parents as being right for their children.
AllWhitebelievr2008-01-13 17:49:07

Problem is, when you have Capital Fed. junior rep coaches steering their charges toward Wellington College and the SS coach who picks the NZ teams there, who should get the credit for Wellington players?

Its more anyone with any sence choses to go there. There is no arguement that the kids there get the best coaching and oppertunity. I advise kids that i coach and ref that Wgtn Coll is the best option.

Leo Bertos, Tim Brown- wellington college

Malcolm Dunford Parkway College, Harry Ngata Aotea College. The point is I dont think which college you go to really matters, its your club which matters more.

Wgtn College hasnt been the top Wgtn school at the nationals for a number of years now. Other first X1's have coaches supplied by clubs.

Although isnt Wgtn College yet to ever win the National tournament?