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All Whites 95th in the world now

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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
All Whites 95th in the world now
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Was bored and was checking the Fifa Rankings.

See that The All Whites are have cracked the 100, and are now 95th in the world!!

Good work!!

http://www.fifa.com/associations/association=nzl/ranking/gender=m/index.html


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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
That's brilliant. Although we're going to slip back down a decent few places with no more matches until September next year (unless you've got something up your sleeve Seatts?).
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Lets just hope its onwards and upwards. Fiji match is going to be scheduled for June. Hopefully some friendlies before that!

I say tackle him in the face.

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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
5th ranked team from Asia at the moment is Saudi Arabia!

I say tackle him in the face.

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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I seem to remember a 5-0 away win over them last time....
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I seem to remember a 5-0 away win over them last time....
 
1982?

I say tackle him in the face.

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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Yeah the qualifiers
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
santy wrote:
I seem to remember a 5-0 away win over them last time....
 
1982?
 
Late 1981, but yeah, you got it...went over there needing to win by 5 to force a playoff with China - 5-0 up at halftime (Rufer 2, Brian Turner 2, Woodin), then couldn't score in the second half to go through to the WC Finals without even needing the playoff.
 
Then off to Singapore for the playoff against China - 2-1 (Woodin, Rufer)......hectic last 15 minutes under the cosh........the final whistle......off to Spain!
 
Happy days.....great memories......seems like yesterday.....
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I wana re-live those memories so bad! (I wasn't even alive than!)

I say tackle him in the face.

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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
We really do need to play more games. Not another game for 10 months = pathetic.

a.haak

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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
valeo wrote:
We really do need to play more games. Not another game for 10 months = pathetic.

I wouldn't be so sure that will be the case. The re-arranged game v Fiji will be in june. Also some friendlies possibly next year before the games v New Caledonia. Fingers crossed.
sanday2007-11-25 21:14:50
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Friendlies arent worth many ranking points so expect NZ to slip down the rankings again.

A dog with a bone :)

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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
nightz wrote:

Friendlies arent worth many ranking points so expect NZ to slip down the rankings again.


This would appear to be a problem only solved by joining another confederation.
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
lets get a few more games scheduled.
then we can stay in the top 100.
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
It sounds like we were going to have our first class-opposition game in years here early next year (Chile), but the sh*te crowd in Wellington scuppered that.
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disco_mart wrote:
It sounds like we were going to have our first class-opposition game in years here early next year (Chile), but the sh*te crowd in Wellington scuppered that.
 
That and the Fijian cancellation

I say tackle him in the face.

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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I read somewhere that Malaysia where interested in a 2 match tour of their country by the All Whites, after they came here last year. Do you have any info on this seatts?
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
from A league rap up
This week's memo to the FFA: Offer to host a Commonwealth Nations Tournament this winter.

No UK teams in Euro 2008, Australia want to play friendlies, England wants to play Scotland and vice versa - but everyone's terrified of crowd violence...so let them play in Oz. Problem solved.

Invite the five UK home nations, us, the Kiwis, and a couple of others for two groups of four played out at the A-League stadiums (or whatever's available) - bingo.

We land ourselves a showpiece spectacle that will appeal to all the ex-pats out here, TV rights overseas - and prove our ability to run a World Cup style event.

now wouldnt that rock



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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
sloth wrote:
from A league rap up
This week's memo to the FFA: Offer to host a Commonwealth Nations Tournament this winter.

No UK teams in Euro 2008, Australia want to play friendlies, England wants to play Scotland and vice versa - but everyone's terrified of crowd violence...so let them play in Oz. Problem solved.

Invite the five UK home nations, us, the Kiwis, and a couple of others for two groups of four played out at the A-League stadiums (or whatever's available) - bingo.

We land ourselves a showpiece spectacle that will appeal to all the ex-pats out here, TV rights overseas - and prove our ability to run a World Cup style event.

now wouldnt that rock

 
Magic!
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
sloth wrote:
from A league rap up
This week's memo to the FFA: Offer to host a Commonwealth Nations Tournament this winter.

No UK teams in Euro 2008, Australia want to play friendlies, England wants to play Scotland and vice versa - but everyone's terrified of crowd violence...so let them play in Oz. Problem solved.

Invite the five UK home nations, us, the Kiwis, and a couple of others for two groups of four played out at the A-League stadiums (or whatever's available) - bingo.

We land ourselves a showpiece spectacle that will appeal to all the ex-pats out here, TV rights overseas - and prove our ability to run a World Cup style event.

now wouldnt that rock



 
what u reckon seatts?
 
surely england would be looking some ranking points during Euro 2008.

I say tackle him in the face.

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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
that would be absolutely bloddy magic

www.kiwifromthecouch.blogspot.com

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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Greece ranked 11th and climbing. Winning Euro 2008 should bring us up several more places.....!! And don't forget we have an easy World Cup qualifying group to push us up a bit further still....!! 
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The AW`s could beat Greece, They seem to choke when playing smaller nations ( Or lack motivation). convict2007-11-27 04:51:26
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convict wrote:
The AW`s could beat Greece, They seem to choke when playing smaller nations ( Or lack motivation).
 
Agreed! Woud tie in well with Wgtn's greek population too

I say tackle him in the face.

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pao1908 wrote:
Greece ranked 11th and climbing. Winning Euro 2008 should bring us up several more places.....!! And don't forget we have an easy World Cup qualifying group to push us up a bit further still....!! 
 
Yeah their World Cup qualifying group is an absolute joke.

Three for me, and two for them.

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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I think we'd be ranked 11th if we were in Asia just under Qatar and above the UAE.
Makes you think we should have a regional tournament every second year in between the WCQs.  
Japan 740 points
Iran 673
Korea 660
Aussie 607
Saudi 567
Uzbekistan 507
Iraq 453
Oman 416
Mainland China 400
Qatar 390
NEW ZEALAND 349
UAE 340
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Has anyone got any idear on which way the plays-offs will be held, I belive OFC champions get the choice to pick  it, If NZ has to play someone like Iran u would want to play a away game first.
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Really???? I'm gobsmacked!

Three for me, and two for them.

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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
edward l wrote:
I think we'd be ranked 11th if we were in Asia just under Qatar and above the UAE.
Makes you think we should have a regional tournament every second year in between the WCQs.  
Japan 740 points
Iran 673
Korea 660
Aussie 607
Saudi 567
Uzbekistan 507
Iraq 453
Oman 416
Mainland China 400
Qatar 390
NEW ZEALAND 349
UAE 340
What we should try for (short of Oceania being merged into Asia) is to somehow involve Oceanian teams in the Asian Cup (which falls in between World Cups). That would be the bomb
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edward l wrote:
I think we'd be ranked 11th if we were in Asia just under Qatar and above the UAE.
Makes you think we should have a regional tournament every second year in between the WCQs. �

Japan 740 points

Iran 673

Korea 660

Aussie 607

Saudi 567

Uzbekistan 507

Iraq 453

Oman 416

Mainland China 400

Qatar 390

NEW ZEALAND 349

UAE 340
What we should try for (short of Oceania being merged into Asia) is to somehow involve Oceanian teams in the Asian Cup (which falls in between World Cups). That would be the bomb


The problem with that is that AFC members would have nothing to gain from that, and maybe a spot or two to lose in fact. So there's very little chance of that happening.
I'm really stuck on any suggestions on how the AWs can improve internationally. The most logical solution is to join AFC, but with all the problems that Seatts has identified in respect with that, we really seem to be in a limbo right now and going nowhere fast.
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convict wrote:
The AW`s could beat Greece, They seem to choke when playing smaller nations ( Or lack motivation).


I seriously doubt that. The Greek record in EURO 2008 qualifying: P12 W10 D1 L1. Little choking there really, the loss came against Turkey. The rest of the teams in the group were Norway, Bosnia, Hungary, Moldova and Malta. Of those teams we'd probably beat Malta (although they're much harder to beat these days) and have competetive tussles with Moldova and maybe Hungary. The others would beat us quite comfortably.
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Alternatively an O-League Allstars trip against the heavy weight clubs of Asia.
There are some island players that I'd definitely include.
IMHO its about growing the pool of talent. Exposing ourselves to higher levels of competition.
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santy wrote:
[QUOTE=sloth]from A league rap up
This week's memo to the FFA: Offer to host a Commonwealth Nations Tournament this winter.

No UK teams in Euro 2008, Australia want to play friendlies, England wants to play Scotland and vice versa - but everyone's terrified of crowd violence...so let them play in Oz. Problem solved.

Invite the five UK home nations, us, the Kiwis, and a couple of others for two groups of four played out at the A-League stadiums (or whatever's available) - bingo.

We land ourselves a showpiece spectacle that will appeal to all the ex-pats out here, TV rights overseas - and prove our ability to run a World Cup style event.

now wouldnt that rock





"And then we woke up"

I see this morning (UK time) that the home nations minus England have decided to relaunch the tournament that they used to host year in year out for 100 years.
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For those in the know:  With the WC and OFC Nations cup having been combined NZ has lost a lot of its competitive matches that it had even four years ago which is one of the reasons we've bombed from 48 a couple of years ago to 150ish earlier this year.
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Who cares where we're ranked. As long as we qualify for WC is the main thing.

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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
i agree, if we qualify it doesnt matter where we're ranked as long as we make it to SAF. I reckon we could probably give the 5th place asian team a run for there money. also what about the Confederations Cup, we pretty much have already qualified which is awesome and it means we get to play opposition we would usually have a chance to play like Brazil!
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
It does matter were we are ranked for players trying to get spots in teams that play in the European leagues.

A dog with a bone :)

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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Rankings are something to aim for.  They force us to invest in competition.  Rather than a one off effort every four years, its means we are constantly striving to be better.  Otherwise we start drifting off in quality.  Besides as a footie starved bloke sitting in Auckland, I want to see a couple of internationals a year to keep me alive!!

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