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Posted January 31, 2018 05:02 · last edited February 01, 2018 00:33

The JourneyFan wrote:

Argie- wrote:

scribbler wrote:

I wonder if a caretaker manager for the first game would be allowed to bring back players like Boyd who fell out of favour with Hudson, or would they get the hard word from NZF to 'not rock the boat' pending the appointment of the new man? 

That's why I think we need the appointment of the new coach as soon as possible. If that doesn't happen it wouldn't surprise me if the likes of Reid, Smith, Gleeson, Boyd and co. made themselves unavailable for the march window.

theres probably a fairly good chance of that happening anyway, no matter who the coach is

Whilst it's great news that AWs likely have a game(s) in March window (19th-27th March) - I think need to be realistic about who might be available. 

Reid and Wood are currently injured. If they are fit come March their teams maybe fighting for a spot in Europe (Burnley - longshot I know), or fighting to avoid relegation (West Ham still only 4 points above relegation zone). ie there will be pressure from their clubs to be unavailable for meaningless international friendlies, at a crunch time of club season - esp if any internationals are a long plane ride away. I think that is understandable, and really Reid & Wood (plus Thomas) have nothing to prove to any new AWs manager.

Could be different if any friendly(ies) are just a short trip away in Europe, rather than the usual long haul to Asia for an AWs friendly.

Also in March the MLS will be in full swing. Like the A League it doesn't stop for FIFA windows. Sporting KC, Portland, Minnesota, Vancouver & Colorado I note all have MLS games in the March window.

Guys like Smith, Marinovic, Boxall etc maybe won't like the idea of missing a club game so early in the season, and possibly giving a team mate a chance to have a blinder and nick their spot for the season. Again those three have nothing to prove to any incoming AWs gaffer. Others like Colvey, Wynne, Musa, Tuiloma etc may even decide to concentrate on their MLS clubs if fighting for starting/squad spots at season start. Big important club season for all of them, so entitled to be a bit selfish in need come March.

Basically March window could be a chance to bring in some guys like Adam Mitchell, Nikko Boxall, Gleeson, Boyd etc - blokes that have a bit to prove, or are unknown at international level. Nothing wrong with some experimentation so early in 4 year cycle. Will have benefits in long run. Japan game 4 years really put Thomas on the map.

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Unknown editor edited February 01, 2018 00:33
The JourneyFan wrote:
Argie- wrote:
scribbler wrote:

I wonder if a caretaker manager for the first game would be allowed to bring back players like Boyd who fell out of favour with Hudson, or would they get the hard word from NZF to 'not rock the boat' pending the appointment of the new man? 

That's why I think we need the appointment of the new coach as soon as possible. If that doesn't happen it wouldn't surprise me if the likes of Reid, Smith, Gleeson, Boyd and co. made themselves unavailable for the march window.

theres probably a fairly good chance of that happening anyway, no matter who the coach is

Whilst it's great news that AWs likely have a game(s) in March window (19th-27th March) - I think need to be realistic about who might be available. 

Reid and Wood are currently injured. If they are fit come March their teams maybe fighting for a spot in Europe (Burnley - longshot I know), or fighting to avoid relegation (West Ham still only 4 points above relegation zone). ie there will be pressure from their clubs to be unavailable for meaningless international friendlies, at a crunch time of club season - esp if any internationals are a long plane ride away. I think that is understandable, and really Reid & Wood (plus Thomas) have nothing to prove to any new AWs manager.

Could be different if any friendly(ies) are just a short trip away in Europe, rather than the usual long haul to Asia.

Also in March the MLS will be in full swing. Like A League it don't stop for FIFA windows. Sporting KC, Portland, Minnesota, Vancouver & Colorado I note all have MLS games in the March window.

Guys like Smith, Marinovic, Boxall etc maybe won't like the idea of missing a club game so early in the season, and possibly giving a team mate a chance to have a blinder and nick their spot for the season. Again those three have nothing to prove to any incoming AWs gaffer. Others like Colvey, Wynne, Musa, Tuiloma etc may even decide to concentrate on their MLS clubs if fighting for starting/squad spots at season start. Big important club season for all of them, so entitled to be a bit selfish in need come March.

Basically March window could be a chance to bring in some guys like Adam Mitchell, Nikko Boxall, Gleeson, Boyd etc - blokes that have a bit to prove, or are unknown at international level. Nothing wrong with some experimentation so early in 4 year cycle. Will have benefits in long run. Japan game 4 years really put Thomas on the map.

Unknown editor edited January 31, 2018 14:16
The JourneyFan wrote:
Argie- wrote:
scribbler wrote:

I wonder if a caretaker manager for the first game would be allowed to bring back players like Boyd who fell out of favour with Hudson, or would they get the hard word from NZF to 'not rock the boat' pending the appointment of the new man? 

That's why I think we need the appointment of the new coach as soon as possible. If that doesn't happen it wouldn't surprise me if the likes of Reid, Smith, Gleeson, Boyd and co. made themselves unavailable for the march window.

theres probably a fairly good chance of that happening anyway, no matter who the coach is

Whilst it's great news that AWs likely have a game(s) in March window (19th-27th March) - I think need to be realistic about who might be available. 

Reid and Wood are currently injured. If they are fit come March their teams maybe fighting for a spot in Europe (Burnley - longshot I know), or fighting to avoid relegation (West Ham still only 4 points above relegation zone). ie there will be pressure from their clubs to be unavailable for meaningless international friendlies, at a crunch time of club season - esp if any internationals are a long plane ride away. I think that is understandable, and really Reid & Wood (plus Thomas) have nothing to prove to any new AWs manager.

Could be different if any friendly(ies) are just a short trip away in Europe, rather than the usual long haul to Asia.

Also in March the MLS will be in full swing. Like A League it don't stop for FIFA windows. Sporting KC, Portland, Minnesota, Vancouver & Colorado I note all have MLS games in the March window.

Guys like Smith, Marinovic, Boxall etc maybe won't like the idea of missing a club game so early in the season, and possibly giving a team mate a chance to have a blinder and nick their spot for the season. Again those three have nothing to prove to any incoming AWs gaffer. Others like Colvey, Wynne, Musa, Tuiloma etc may even decide to concentrate on their MLS clubs if fighting for starting/squad spots at season start.

Basically March window could be a chance to bring in some guys like Adam Mitchell, Nikko Boxall, Gleeson, Boyd etc - blokes that have a bit to prove, or are unknown at international level. Nothing wrong with some experimentation so early in 4 year cycle. Will have benefits in long run. Japan game 4 years really put Thomas on the map.

Unknown editor edited January 31, 2018 14:14
The JourneyFan wrote:
Argie- wrote:
scribbler wrote:

I wonder if a caretaker manager for the first game would be allowed to bring back players like Boyd who fell out of favour with Hudson, or would they get the hard word from NZF to 'not rock the boat' pending the appointment of the new man? 

That's why I think we need the appointment of the new coach as soon as possible. If that doesn't happen it wouldn't surprise me if the likes of Reid, Smith, Gleeson, Boyd and co. made themselves unavailable for the march window.

theres probably a fairly good chance of that happening anyway, no matter who the coach is

Whilst it's great news that AWs likely have a game(s) in March window (19th-27th March) - I think need to be realistic about who might be available. 

Reid and Wood are currently injured. If they are fit come March their teams maybe fighting for a spot in Europe (Burnley - longshot I know), or fighting to avoid relegation (West Ham still only 4 points above relegation zone). ie there will be pressure from their clubs to be unavailable for meaningless international friendlies, at a crunch time of club season - esp if any internationals are a long plane ride away. I think that is understandable, and really Reid & Wood (plus Thomas) have nothing to prove to any new AWs manager.

Could be different if any friendly(ies) are just a short trip away in Europe, rather than the usual long haul to Asia.

Also in March the MLS will be in full swing. Like A League it don't stop for FIFA windows. Sporting KC, Portland, Minnesota, Vancouver & Colorado I note all have MLS games in the March window.

Guys like Smith, Marinovic, Boxall etc maybe won't like the idea of missing a club game so early in the season, and possibly giving a team mate a chance to have a blinder and nick their spot for the season. Again those three have nothing to prove to any incoming AWs gaffer. Others like Colvey, Wynne, Musa, Tuiloma etc may even decide to concentrate on their MLS clubs if fighting for starting/squad spots.

Basically March window could be a chance to bring in some guys like Adam Mitchell, Nikko Boxall, Gleeson, Boyd etc - blokes that have a bit to prove, or are unknown at international level. Nothing wrong with some experimentation so early in 4 year cycle. Will have benefits in long run. Japan game 4 years really put Thomas on the map.

Unknown editor edited January 31, 2018 14:12
The JourneyFan wrote:
Argie- wrote:
scribbler wrote:

I wonder if a caretaker manager for the first game would be allowed to bring back players like Boyd who fell out of favour with Hudson, or would they get the hard word from NZF to 'not rock the boat' pending the appointment of the new man? 

That's why I think we need the appointment of the new coach as soon as possible. If that doesn't happen it wouldn't surprise me if the likes of Reid, Smith, Gleeson, Boyd and co. made themselves unavailable for the march window.

theres probably a fairly good chance of that happening anyway, no matter who the coach is

Whilst it's great news that AWs likely have a game(s) in March window (19th-27th March) - I think need to be realistic about who might be available. 

Reid and Wood are currently injured. If they are fit come March their teams maybe fighting for a spot in Europe (Burnley - longshot I know), or fighting to avoid relegation (West Ham still only 4 points above relegation zone). ie there will be pressure from their clubs to be unavailable for meaningless international friendlies, at a crunch time of club season - esp if any internationals are a long plane ride away. I think that is understandable, and really Reid & Wood (plus Thomas) have nothing to prove to any new AWs manager.

Could be different if any friendly(ies) are just a short trip away in Europe, rather than the usual long haul to Asia.

Also in March the MLS will be in full swing. Like A League it don't stop for FIFA windows. Sporting KC, Portland, Minnesota, Vancouver & Colorado I note all have MLS games in the March window.

Guys like Smith, Marinovic, Boxall etc maybe won't like the idea of missing a club game so early in the season, and possibly giving a team mate a chance to have a blinder and nick their spot for the season. Again those three have nothing to prove to any incoming AWs gaffer. Others like Colvey, Wynne, Musa, Tuiloma etc may even decide to concentrate on their MLS clubs if fighting for starting/squad spots.

Basically March window could be a chance to bring in some guys like Adam Mitchell, Gleeson, Boyd etc - blokes that have a bit to prove, or are unknown at international level. Nothing wrong with some experimentation so early in 4 year cycle. Will have benefits in long run. Japan game 4 years really put Thomas on the map.