All Whites, Ferns, and other international teams

All Whites V Solomon Islands Tue SS2 7:30pm

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over 13 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Those heading to the game should pop into The Merchant Bar.  They're awesome.

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I'm heading along on Tuesday night, hope there's a decent crowd.

Would like to see us use an Olympics-esque 4-4-2/4-2-3-1.

Something like Paston; Sigmund, Nelsen, Reid, Lochhead; Bertos, McGlinchey, Keat/Payne, Barbarouses/Rojas; Wood, Brockie.

Not that I'm against the 3-4-3 like it seems many here are, just that a home game against the Solomons seems the perfect time to try out an alternative.

Either way, surely Keat or Payne has to play instead of Vicelich. Yes, he's been a loyal servant, and provides good cover for both the CB and CM positions, but we need to start really blooding someone younger in midfield.

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over 13 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

How about we ensure we move on from stage 3 (and especially include our most prolific goalscorer!) then worry about blooding someone younger

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over 13 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

It's not just about blooding. It's also about whether we have the best talent involved. Anyway, it's a judgment call, and its hard to argue with the result.

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over 13 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

leaving out Smith is an interesting one in the team above too

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over 13 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Flights booked. Ticketek website doesn't seem to be letting me purchase a ticket however. Will try again tomorrow..


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over 13 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Feverish wrote:

leaving out Smith is an interesting one in the team above too

You wouldn't pick Nelsen and Reid as the 2 centre-backs in a 2 centre-back team? Or would you have him in over Lochhead?

It would be nice to focus soley on qualifying, but without the Confederations Cup, these games will have to serve a dual purpose. Honiara was the result of a confluence of events, some which we could have controlled, some which we couldn't have, not a paradigm shift in Oceania football. That said, I'm not really that fussed what the team looks like, as long as it doesn't contain anything overtly stupid.

 

 

 

 

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over 13 years ago

inafoxhole wrote:

Feverish wrote:

leaving out Smith is an interesting one in the team above too

You wouldn't pick Nelsen and Reid as the 2 centre-backs in a 2 centre-back team? Or would you have him in over Lochhead?

It would be nice to focus soley on qualifying, but without the Confederations Cup, these games will have to serve a dual purpose. Honiara was the result of a confluence of events, some which we could have controlled, some which we couldn't have, not a paradigm shift in Oceania football. That said, I'm not really that fussed what the team looks like, as long as it doesn't contain anything overtly stupid.


Well if you were going to incredibly leave one of Nelsen, Reid or Smith out the XI then it would probably be Nelsen as his playing days are numbered.

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over 13 years ago

Still cheap flights from Wellington on Jetstar.    Tues 11:30am $45. Come back Wednesday 1:35pm $39.

Can't beat that.

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over 13 years ago

Leaving shortly for the game via Whitianga to see my Mum and then Devenport onh Tuesday to see my youngest son and drop off bikes, golf gear, cricket gear tennis gear. Car laden down.

 See whoever in the pub pre match. Go the All Whites..Really looking forward to seeing the stars and newbies.


 

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over 13 years ago
Tomorrow night's All Whites football World Cup qualifying encounter with the Solomon Islands at North Harbour Stadium is struggling to attract fans. Only around 3000 tickets have been sold for the encounter, with New Zealand Football officials initially targeting 13,000. It's understood a crowd of 18,000 will see the fixture break even. Captain Ryan Nelsen is desperate for a vocal Kiwi crowd as it's easy to get blasé about crowds playing club football. "When you come back and play for New Zealand you've got family and close friends and all the things that you're brought up with and, for some reason it kind of just hits home in your upbringing and everything, it just comes back." The All Whites have just finished a training session at a school in Albany.
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over 13 years ago

13000 midweek in Auckland against the Solomon islands with tickets being at least $25? Dreaming. 


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over 13 years ago

 I didn't think the ticket pricing was that bad actually, but obviously I was wrong.

The thing is - would 18,000 people turn up to watch NZ vs Solomon Islands at North Harbour on a Tuesday night even if it was free?

I am seriously questioning whether they would.


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over 13 years ago

 Hope they get a good crowd but I doubt it as not only is it midweek, the weather is not meant to be kind.

If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid

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over 13 years ago

 Similar question if it is at Wellington or Christchurch...

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over 13 years ago

The tv andprint media (tv3 and herald on sunday to some extent aside) have given this match very little coverage. It is hype that sells tickets. This is a world cup qualifier featuring premier league footballers and deserves a much better go from the media. Some things never change.

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over 13 years ago


What promotion of the game has NZ Football done? Hard to tell being as we are here in Wellington.

A dog with a bone :)

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over 13 years ago
nightz wrote:


What promotion of the game has NZ Football done? Hard to tell being as we are here in Wellington.


None.
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over 13 years ago

Murray Deaker - giving it to NZ football fans at the moment.  "If I was Reid, I wouldn't even bother next time".

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over 13 years ago

How many would turn up to the all blacks vs Namibia on a Tuesday night at $25? Not comparing Namibia to the Solomon islands,except in terms of being an unknown team. 


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over 13 years ago

If they wanted to get people along to watch the All Whites play minnows on a Tuesday night tickets would have to be $20 max, anything more is too much for the average fan I'd suggest

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over 13 years ago

New caledonia ranked 13 places ahead of Moldova, Solomons 12 behind. Minnows are part of qualifying for everybody. But they are all crucial matches en route to a world cup and should be respected as such. Plus, as we are favorites for once it's a chance for us to score some goals. It is just absurd that the friendly v Jamaica is going to pull a bigger crowd than this match.

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over 13 years ago

Its not all that absurd. A game against minnows, no matter what they're qualifying games for, are still games against minnows. 

Its not absurd that a game against higher ranked opposition, would attract more fans than a qualifier against a minnow. 

To take it to an extreme - you'd expect a friendly against Spain to attract more of a crowd than the Qualifier tomorrow. 


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over 13 years ago

The thing is - would 18,000 people turn up to watch NZ vs Solomon Islands at North Harbour on a Tuesday night even if it was free?

I am seriously questioning whether they would.



I'm awarding this the James Dean comment of the month and it's only the 10th of September.
I'm hoping that in time this will have the same impact as a pat on the back from Diego's Son.

Normo's coming home

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over 13 years ago

Its just a shame that they couldnt have had us playing at home on a Friday night, and then New Caledonia away mid week. Wouldve worked out a lot better in terms of crowd numbers.

And lol at choosing North Harbour anyway

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over 13 years ago

It's a combination of weeknight so kids will have school in the morning, Auckland traffic and thus travel to the fartherest point in Auckland (you'd need to leave Papakura at 4) along with opposition. I also expect that because we are expected to win easily (ignore the talk, it's whats expected) people won't turn up. I couldn't imagine if the ABs ever played a half against Counties and Auckland that they would sell out Eden Park.


 At home, on Sky - no worries.

Grumpy old bastard alert

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over 13 years ago
AJ13 wrote:

Its just a shame that they couldnt have had us playing at home on a Friday night, and then New Caledonia away mid week. Wouldve worked out a lot better in terms of crowd numbers.

And lol at choosing North Harbour anyway


This was my thought when the draw was first announced.

I'd like to know how much effort NZF actually put into securing home games on a Friday rather than Tuesday, which would have made a lot more commercial sense (and maybe fans in the Islands are a bit less fickle about which night of the week they will turn out on).



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over 13 years ago

Draws are random for a purpose Term.  Nothing NZF could do about it.

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over 13 years ago

All Whites coach Ricki Herbert is on the Breakfast of Champions as we look ahead to tonight's World Cup qualifier against the Soloman Islands at Albany

 Ricki Interview on Live Sport


All White defender Tony Lochhead is on the show as the team prepare for tomorrow's World Cup qualifier against the Solomon Islands at Albany which comes four days after opening their campaign with a 2-0 win against New Caledonia.

Tony Lochhead interview on Live Sport 


NZ Football CEO Grant McKavanagh talks to Radio Sport host Rikki Swannell about the disappointing ticket sales ahead of the All Whites world cup qualifier against the Solomon Islands.

Disappointing Ticket Sales

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over 13 years ago

 I didn't think the ticket pricing was that bad actually, but obviously I was wrong.

The thing is - would 18,000 people turn up to watch NZ vs Solomon Islands at North Harbour on a Tuesday night even if it was free?

I am seriously questioning whether they would.


probably not.  But if you're charging $45 for a covered seat on the verge of winter, then you are out of touch with your market.

Last qualification, Auckland got 8,000 to a game against New Caledonia on a Wednesday night.  Tickets were $15.

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over 13 years ago

Easy solution: all games to be played in Wellington from now on. Won't guarantee the crowd numbers but at least them I will be able to atted, and that is the most important thing :-)

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over 13 years ago

For those of outside NZ does anyone know if its going to be on the net somewhere?

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over 13 years ago

Vipbox.tv have it listed.

www.kiwifromthecouch.blogspot.com

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over 13 years ago

Cheers

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over 13 years ago
2ndBest wrote:

Draws are random for a purpose Term.  Nothing NZF could do about it.



But every team plays home and away in each two-game window.

NZF should have simply said we want all our home games to fall on a Friday.

It wouldn't affect the integrity of the draw at all, just the scheduling of when the games are actually played.

If the difference between playing on a Tuesday or Friday is say, 5,000 on the gate, then the two Tuesday games are lost revenue for NZF of around $150,000 each. That would have been an option well worth pursuing with the OFC I would have thought.

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over 13 years ago

And the island nations have no such right to say "we want weekend games" too?


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over 13 years ago

In general, this kind of stuff is subject to agreement between the teams involved.

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over 13 years ago
bopman wrote:

Vipbox.tv have it listed.


Hoo-fecking-Ray.

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over 13 years ago

Can't make it tonight because of tight work deadlines. Will be following on Twitter. Don't let me down, Auckland Feverites.


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