All Whites V South Africa | 30 May 7:30pm | The Zookeeper's Son | SS3

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Again Eagar has been over looked? this is beyond the joke now... Emblen has something against him?

 

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Even more bizarre is the fact that Musa is apparently replacing one of Kosta or Smeltz.

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Didn't Coveny have a bust-up with Emblen some years back?. That hate prob extends to Sth Melbourne players.

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Royz wrote:

Didn't Coveny have a bust-up with Emblen some years back?. That hate prob extends to Sth Melbourne players.

Coveny was sacked by South Melbourne way back after the 2010 season and has been an assistant coach of Melbourne Victory's youth side since 2011.
So no reason for Emblen to have any problem with South Melbourne.
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Big Pete 65 wrote:
Royz wrote:

Didn't Coveny have a bust-up with Emblen some years back?. That hate prob extends to Sth Melbourne players.

Coveny was sacked by South Melbourne way back after the 2010 season and has been an assistant coach of Melbourne Victory's youth side since 2011.

So no reason for Emblen to have any problem with South Melbourne.

And isn't Musa a South Melbourne player now?
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Good thing the road trip will be epic. Coz the game certainly won't be.

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kakky wrote:


Again Eagar has been over looked? this is beyond the joke now... Emblen has something against him?

 

Eagar may be keeping Ozzy call up option open. 
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I think we will be sticking to FIFA windows in future for matches

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Brockies goal problems started in the last nz game so maybe this can be his return to goal scoring form

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detoxin wrote:

Brockies goal problems started in the last nz game so maybe this can be his return to goal scoring form


yes, lets think of the positives
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Clearly Emblin has seen that our defence was pants so called up James. Michael might have been the better call. Is Killen retired now?


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james dean wrote:

I think we will be sticking to FIFA windows in future for matches


Or just lowering our expectations for non-FIFA windows?

Given our experiences last time round is it worth getting the All Whites together at any opportunity, even if it sometimes effectively means putting out a B team?

I'm not sure myself actually. Probably only the coaching staff and players can answer that one.


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terminator_x wrote:
james dean wrote:

I think we will be sticking to FIFA windows in future for matches


Or just lowering our expectations for non-FIFA windows?

Given our experiences last time round is it worth getting the All Whites together at any opportunity, even if it sometimes effectively means putting out a B team?

I'm not sure myself actually. Probably only the coaching staff and players can answer that one.




I think its worth it.  A number of these players will be star AWs in the future.  Would rather they get blooded now and know the ethos then turn up to an important game and are not aware of how the AWs roll.  Also makes casual football fans aware that we do actually play internations and gets people talking about our boys.  If its good enough fo Mexico and Argentina, its most definately good enough for us.

Also: The All Blacks do this with the NZ Maori and against second string sides such as USA/Italy/Japan/Canada.
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In terms of eagar, he got an injury vs benteigh so I reckon it could've been a factor in him not getting the call, but very happy musa got the call up.  definitely deserved it, his positioning and passing is superb.

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In terms of eagar, he got an injury vs benteigh so I reckon it could've been a factor in him not getting the call, but very happy musa got the call up.  definitely deserved it, his positioning and passing is superb.

Could be his speed on the turn lets him down - internationally speaking. We'll soon see.

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Speed on the turn? Hes competing against sigmund durante and boxall - he'll be fine

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Sun, 25 May 2014 9:24a.m. TEST
We talk with All Whites interim coach Niel Emblem ahead of their game this week.

http://www.radiolivesport.co.nz/Wynton-World-Of-Football-Neil-Emblem/tabid/454/articleID/18578/Default.aspx

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wahoo! tickets book. White noise is on! I dont care if they are a bunch of seconds player each other. Im excited!!!

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Wheres the best place to watch in Wellington?

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terminator_x wrote:
james dean wrote:

I think we will be sticking to FIFA windows in future for matches


Or just lowering our expectations for non-FIFA windows?

Given our experiences last time round is it worth getting the All Whites together at any opportunity, even if it sometimes effectively means putting out a B team?

I'm not sure myself actually. Probably only the coaching staff and players can answer that one.


I think it's worth it because when the All Whites have played a lot of friendlies in the past, results have improved in the serious games.


In the build-up to the 1981-82 World Cup qualifiers, the All Whites benefited from playing 17 games in 14 months between February 1980 and the first World Cup qualifier vs. Australia in April 1981. Actually, I think there may have been another couple of friendlies before the first World Cup qualifier in early 1981.

They tried fourteen players in those 17 games (excluding the Merdeka Tournament in Malaysia) who never made the World Cup squad in 1981 (12 made it)

http://www.ultimatenzsoccer.com/NZRepSoccer/id167.htm

From the seven games in the Merdeka Tournament in Malaysia in October 1980, not one player made the World Cup squad vs. Australia in April (Wynton Rufer was called-up late in the year). From the squads earlier in 1980, fourteen players never made the 1981 World Cup squad, 12 made the squad. From the first squad called up in 1980, the squad of 18 for the five games in the Oceania Nations Cup in February 1980,  only six players made the 1981 All Whites squad. 

All Whites line-ups 1980-81:

http://www.ultimatenzsoccer.com/NZRepSoccer/id1563.htm


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Anyone know where I will be able to get a stream from for this game? Foxsports are not showing it over here

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This South Africa team are no push-overs (or else the Socceroos are):

SUCKEROOS 1 v SOUTH AFRICA 1 tonight

(Cahill 14 mins)           (Patosi 13 mins)

Crowd: 50,049, ANZ Stadium, Sydney

Disappointing result for Australia in their World Cup send-off.

Match thread:

http://www.smh.com.au/sport/football/football-match-centre/socceroos-v-south-africa-20140523-38u9d.html

Seems the so-called SA second-stringers are actually not too bad.


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Pierre wrote:

ahhh shambles. The one thing holding this game together was the full strength SA team. Now we have nothing, except, as patrick said, a handful of ticketholders.

Australia 1 Sth Africa 1

Still nothing?

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The other upside of this being an off-season, non FIFA window friendly is that the AWs are obviously spending the whole week in camp (looks like training started yesterday).

So it may not be the full A team but the guys who are playing are spending some decent preparation time together.



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So NZF flew him up from Wanganui?

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Did he win a persil competition or something? wtf...

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Jeff Vader wrote:

So NZF flew him up from Wanganui?

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Oh fuck... this to me smacks of the new boy. "I say chaps, who can we get in to give the chaps a bit of a pep talk, bit of a rev pre-match? How about one of your fine rugger boys? No? Who else? Someone with deep knowledge of the Kiwi round-ball game... Anybody you might know of with a bit of history, able to prep a proper presentation... "

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Simon Hampton @SimonHampton9

#AllWhites team to play South Africa: Moss, Tuiloma, Boyd, McGlinchey, Rojas, James, Thomas, Roux, Payne, Boxall, Durante.

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Simon Hampton @SimonHampton9

#AllWhites team to play South Africa: Moss, Tuiloma, Boyd, McGlinchey, Rojas, James, Thomas, Roux, Payne, Boxall, Durante.

Only difference from the Japan game is Wood and Kosta out with Marco back from injury and James promoted into a starting spot. Looks like a 4231 rather than the 4132 we started against Japan.

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4-1-4-1 Apparently. Payne and Boyd the 1s.

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Jerzy Merino wrote:

Oh fuck... this to me smacks of the new boy. "I say chaps, who can we get in to give the chaps a bit of a pep talk, bit of a rev pre-match? How about one of your fine rugger boys? No? Who else? Someone with deep knowledge of the Kiwi round-ball game... Anybody you might know of with a bit of history, able to prep a proper presentation... "

motivational speech from a football nerd. Might as well get Patrick to do it
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Feverish wrote:
Jerzy Merino wrote:

Oh fuck... this to me smacks of the new boy. "I say chaps, who can we get in to give the chaps a bit of a pep talk, bit of a rev pre-match? How about one of your fine rugger boys? No? Who else? Someone with deep knowledge of the Kiwi round-ball game... Anybody you might know of with a bit of history, able to prep a proper presentation... "

motivational speech from a football nerd. Might as well get Patrick to do it


Is it a motivational speech or a bed time story for the young uns?
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Feverish wrote:
Jerzy Merino wrote:

Oh fuck... this to me smacks of the new boy. "I say chaps, who can we get in to give the chaps a bit of a pep talk, bit of a rev pre-match? How about one of your fine rugger boys? No? Who else? Someone with deep knowledge of the Kiwi round-ball game... Anybody you might know of with a bit of history, able to prep a proper presentation... "

motivational speech from a football nerd. Might as well get Patrick to do it

See that round thing? The idea is that we just keep that thing in our control as long as possible, because statistically, the less time the opposition have the ball, the less likely they are to be able to score a goal. 


Also, Mossy, if you are saving a penalty, dive to the kickers stronger side (to their left if they are right footed and vice versa) 75% of the time and to the other side 25% of the time, I read in Soccernomics that doing that maximises your chance of saving the penalty. 


And Boyd - those fools on the Yellow Fever website voted you as their player of the season in the man of the match polls in your debut professional season, so go out there and live up to that accolade. Don't ask questions, just fucking do it. 


With Mossy saving all the penalties and Boyd doing what the Fever/White Noise/whatever the fuck the non-existent banner at the front of their supporters zone says expect of him, we'll win this. Too easy.

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Simon Hampton @SimonHampton9

#AllWhites team to play South Africa: Moss, Tuiloma, Boyd, McGlinchey, Rojas, James, Thomas, Roux, Payne, Boxall, Durante.

Simon hampton used to post on here a lot? Is he still around

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Tyler wrote:

Simon Hampton @SimonHampton9

#AllWhites team to play South Africa: Moss, Tuiloma, Boyd, McGlinchey, Rojas, James, Thomas, Roux, Payne, Boxall, Durante.

Simon hampton used to post on here a lot? Is he still around

 

I had a beer with him the other night so I can certify that he is not dead.

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