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Posted May 26, 2014 11:09 · last edited May 26, 2014 12:08

terminator_x wrote:
james dean wrote:

I think we will be sticking to FIFA windows in future for matches


Or just lowering our expectations for non-FIFA windows?

Given our experiences last time round is it worth getting the All Whites together at any opportunity, even if it sometimes effectively means putting out a B team?

I'm not sure myself actually. Probably only the coaching staff and players can answer that one.


I think it's worth it because when the All Whites have played a lot of friendlies in the past, results have improved in the serious games.


In the build-up to the 1981-82 World Cup qualifiers, the All Whites benefited from playing 17 games in 14 months between February 1980 and the first World Cup qualifier vs. Australia in April 1981. Actually, I think there may have been another couple of friendlies before the first World Cup qualifier in early 1981.

They tried fourteen players in those 17 games (excluding the Merdeka Tournament in Malaysia) who never made the World Cup squad in 1981 (12 made it)

http://www.ultimatenzsoccer.com/NZRepSoccer/id167.htm

From the seven games in the Merdeka Tournament in Malaysia in October 1980, not one player made the World Cup squad vs. Australia in April (Wynton Rufer was called-up late in the year). From the squads earlier in 1980, fourteen players never made the 1981 World Cup squad, 12 made the squad. From the first squad called up in 1980, the squad of 18 for the five games in the Oceania Nations Cup in February 1980,  only six players made the 1981 All Whites squad. 

All Whites line-ups 1980-81:

http://www.ultimatenzsoccer.com/NZRepSoccer/id1563.htm


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Big Pete 65 edited May 26, 2014 12:08
terminator_x wrote:
james dean wrote:

I think we will be sticking to FIFA windows in future for matches


Or just lowering our expectations for non-FIFA windows?

Given our experiences last time round is it worth getting the All Whites together at any opportunity, even if it sometimes effectively means putting out a B team?

I'm not sure myself actually. Probably only the coaching staff and players can answer that one.


I think it's worth it because when the All Whites have played a lot of friendlies in the past, results have improved in the serious games.


In the build-up to the 1981-82 World Cup qualifiers, the All Whites benefited from playing 17 games in 14 months between February 1980 and the first World Cup qualifier vs. Australia in April 1981. Actually, I think there may have been another couple of friendlies before the first World Cup qualifier in early 1981.

They tried fourteen players in those 17 games who never made the World Cup squad in 1981 (12 made it)

http://www.ultimatenzsoccer.com/NZRepSoccer/id167.htm

From the seven games in the Merdeka Tournament in Malaysia in October 1980, not one player made the World Cup squad vs. Australia in April (Wynton Rufer was called-up late in the year). From the squads earlier in 1980, fourteen players never made the 1981 World Cup squad, 12 made the squad. From the first squad called up in 1980, the squad of 18 for the five games in the Oceania Nations Cup in February 1980,  only six players made the 1981 All Whites squad. 

All Whites line-ups 1980-81:

http://www.ultimatenzsoccer.com/NZRepSoccer/id1563.htm


Big Pete 65 edited May 26, 2014 11:10
terminator_x wrote:
james dean wrote:

I think we will be sticking to FIFA windows in future for matches


Or just lowering our expectations for non-FIFA windows?

Given our experiences last time round is it worth getting the All Whites together at any opportunity, even if it sometimes effectively means putting out a B team?

I'm not sure myself actually. Probably only the coaching staff and players can answer that one.


I think it's worth it because when the All Whites have played a lot of friendlies in the past, results have improved in the serious games.
In the build-up to the 1981-82 World Cup qualifiers, the All Whites benefited from playing 17 games in 14 months between February 1980 and the first World Cup qualifier vs. Australia in April 1981. Actually, I think there may have been another couple of friendlies before the first World Cup qualifier in early 1981.
They tried fourteen players in those 17 games who never made the World Cup squad in 1981 (12 made it)
From the seven games in the Merdeka Tournament in Malaysia in October 1980, not one player made the World Cup squad vs. Australia in April (Wynton Rufer was called-up late in the year). From the squads earlier in 1980, fourteen players never made the 1981 World Cup squad, 12 made the squad. From the first squad called up in 1980, the squad of 18 for the five games in the Oceania Nations Cup in February 1980,  only six players made the 1981 All Whites squad. 
All Whites line-ups 1980-81: