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Posted September 09, 2013 23:37 · last edited September 09, 2013 23:38

Smithy wrote:
sthn.jeff wrote:
Smithy wrote:

What a load of sanctimonious bullshit.

 

Kiwis have, and do, love a dirty player. Richard Lowe, Sean Fitzpatrick, Richie McCaw. All national icons who have a cheating streak. Some of our '82 All White heros were far from saint like, and more locally players like Manny Muscat are applauded for their "no-nonsense" attitude.

 

So jump down off your high horse aye.

On this specific issue, I know Ben pretty well and I don't for one second think he thought to himself "I know, I'll jump up and land on this guy and really fk him up." It does look pretty bad on replay, but I'm still going to give him the benefit of the doubt.


You letting the fact that you know Ben cloud your judgement Smithy? 


Possibly.

Back at you because you've just exposed all your own bullshit defense. This is not the first time we have clashed because of something said about a player you know well. Funny how because you know them well, everyone else must be wrong.

I'm on record as not being a fan of Sigmund but I gave him props for the first game he played at RB so I can admit when he does play well. This however......

I disagree with your summation of heroes. No one likes Loe and as for McCaw and Fitzpatrick, well I'll leave that for others to judge. I'm not a particular fan of Fitzpatrick but I don't see McCaw stomping/clawing each week. Usually more on the receiving end of dirty play but then I must be imagining those boos of Quade Cooper.

This is not a once off isolated incident by Sigmund and Manny gets the exact same stick when he does it as well so as for trying to defend Ben, Get real. Manny and Sigmund might get applauded for being no nonsense hard men but that's not the same as being a dirty thug. An example might be Kevin Campion, who was a hard man, but he was not a thug. Note the difference.

I'll stay up here on my high horse. I say again, if that was one of our players on the ground would you have the same attitude? Smithy go and take your rose coloured friend glasses off. If it was an accident, he would have been right over to check if the guy was ok. Go watch the replay.

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Jeff Vader edited September 09, 2013 23:38
Smithy wrote:

What a load of sanctimonious bullshit.

Kiwis have, and do, love a dirty player. Richard Lowe, Sean Fitzpatrick, Richie McCaw. All national icons who have a cheating streak. Some of our '82 All White heros were far from saint like, and more locally players like Manny Muscat are applauded for their "no-nonsense" attitude.

So jump down off your high horse aye.

On this specific issue, I know Ben pretty well and I don't for one second think he thought to himself "I know, I'll jump up and land on this guy and really fk him up." It does look pretty bad on replay, but I'm still going to give him the benefit of the doubt.

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You letting the fact that you know Ben cloud your judgement Smithy? 

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Possibly.

Back at you because you've just exposed all your own bullshit defense. This is not the first time we have clashed because of something said about a player you know well. Funny how because you know them well, everyone else must be wrong.

I'm on record as not being a fan of Sigmund but I gave him props for the first game he played at RB so I can admit when he does play well. This however......

I disagree with your summation of heroes. No one likes Loe and as for McCaw and Fitzpatrick, well I'll leave that for others to judge. I'm not a particular fan of Fitzpatrick but I don't see McCaw stomping/clawing each week. Usually more on the receiving end of dirty play but then I must be imagining those boos of Quade Cooper.

This is not a once off isolated incident by Sigmund and Manny gets the exact same stick when he does it as well so as for trying to defend Ben, Get real. Manny and Sigmund might get applauded for being no nonsense hard men but that's not the same as being a dirty thug. An example might be Kevin Campion, who was a hard man, but he was not a thug. Note the difference.

I'll stay up here on my high horse. I say again, if that was one of our players on the ground would you have the same attitude? Smithy go and take your rose coloured friend glasses off. If it was an accident, he would have been right over to check if the guy was ok. Go watch the replay.