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Posted November 06, 2017 02:01 · last edited November 06, 2017 02:17

martinb wrote:

Oska wrote:

AlfStamp wrote:

I cant stand Brockie, think he is an awful player and he simply has never delivered for the AW's. The blind fanboy faith in him is amusing to say the least.

I don't think that's fair. No one's claiming Brockie's been a top player for the AWs, but beyond Wood the cupboards pretty bare in term of CFs and he's in the best form of a pretty mediocre set of options. 

Everyone knows that Brockie has flattered to deceive on the goal scoring front with the AWs more than even the Phoenix have. 

I think there's some resignation. 

He used to play a decent role as a wide player, with defensive duties and also scored some crackers for the 'Nix. 

He's a striker who can pull some crazy BS out of a bag and score. 

Personally I wouldn't have selected him, but now that he has, I think he has to play a part in at least some of one of the games.

While one goal in 49 appearances for the AW's is poor, I think that Brockie is useful as a squad player to come off the bench.

We have few other options and Brocks is currently one of the few well-performing NZ strikers in professional football internationally.

It should be noted that of Brockie's 49 international appearances at least 21 have been as a sub:

http://us.soccerway.com/players/jeremy-brockie/486...

The stats in the above link ignore his appearances before 2008 but of those seven games, only one was a start.

Brockie has rarely started against OFC nations.

Although his first cap came against Malysia in 2006, he had played only one game against an OFC nation before his second cap against an OFC nation on 4/6/12 in the Honiara horror OFC Nations Cup.

Brocks played in only one OFC qualifier for the 2010 World Cup.

His call-ups have been very patchy under both Herbert and Hudson.

Herbert gave Brockie only one cap between March 2007 and March 2009 and none between 20/6/09 and 24/5/10.

Brockie started only two of six OFC qualifiers for the 2014 World Cup in 2012-13.

He then played vs. Saudi, UAE and Trinidad in friendlies when NZ was in poor form and the side scored only one goal and started both the play-offs vs. Mexico.

But at least Brockie's goal-scoring record is better under Hudson: one goal in two starts and three sub appearances.

And of those five games under Hudson, only two were against OFC opposition (in June 2016 in World Cup qualifiers).

By comparison, prominent England international attacking players who scored few goals in internationals though scoring freely for their clubs:

Raheem Sterling (outside forward): 2 goals in 35 England appearances 

Emile Heskey (forward): 7 goals in 62 games

Peter Beardsley (forward): 9 goals in 59 games

John Barnes (outside left): 10 goals in 79 games

Glenn Hoddle (attacking midfielder): 8 goals in 53 games

Chris Waddle (outside forward): 6 goals in 62 games

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Unknown editor edited November 06, 2017 02:17
martinb wrote:
Oska wrote:
AlfStamp wrote:

I cant stand Brockie, think he is an awful player and he simply has never delivered for the AW's. The blind fanboy faith in him is amusing to say the least.

I don't think that's fair. No one's claiming Brockie's been a top player for the AWs, but beyond Wood the cupboards pretty bare in term of CFs and he's in the best form of a pretty mediocre set of options. 

Everyone knows that Brockie has flattered to deceive on the goal scoring front with the AWs more than even the Phoenix have. 

I think there's some resignation. 

He used to play a decent role as a wide player, with defensive duties and also scored some crackers for the 'Nix. 

He's a striker who can pull some crazy BS out of a bag and score. 

Personally I wouldn't have selected him, but now that he has, I think he has to play a part in at least some of one of the games.

While one goal in 49 appearances for the AW's is poor, I think that Brockie is useful as a squad player to come off the bench.

We have few other options and Brocks is currently one of the few well-performing NZ strikers in professional football internationally.

It should be noted that of Brockie's 49 international appearances at least 21 have been as a sub:

http://us.soccerway.com/players/jeremy-brockie/486...

The stats in the above link ignore his appearances before 2008 but of those seven games, only one was a start.

Brockie has rarely started against OFC nations.

Although his first cap came against Malysia in 2006, he had played only one game against an OFC nation before his second cap against an OFC nation on 4/6/12 in the Honiara horror OFC Nations Cup.

Brocks played in only one OFC qualifier for the 2010 World Cup.

His call-ups have been very patchy under both Herbert and Hudson.

Herbert gave Brockie only one cap between March 2007 and March 2009 and none between 20/6/09 and 24/5/10.

Brockie started only two of six OFC qualifiers for the 2014 World Cup in 2012-13.

He then played vs. Saudi, UAE and Trinidad in friendlies when NZ was in poor form and the side scored only one goal and started both the play-offs vs. Mexico.

But at least Brockie's goal-scoring record is better under Hudson: one goal in two starts and three sub appearances.

By comparison, prominent England international attacking players who scored few goals in internationals though scoring freely for their clubs:

Raheem Sterling (outside forward): 2 goals in 35 England appearances 

Emile Heskey (forward): 7 goals in 62 games

Peter Beardsley (forward): 9 goals in 59 games

John Barnes (outside left): 10 goals in 79 games

Glenn Hoddle (attacking midfielder): 8 goals in 53 games

Chris Waddle (outside forward): 6 goals in 62 games