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Posted August 29, 2017 21:30 · last edited August 29, 2017 21:32

Whether he has made the right call or not, one of the issues with An-phoney is that the dirty laundry gets aired in the media and it ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS goes tits up.

In this case, what did all this actually achieve? What does that say about him and his direct communication to the players? How does it reflect on him from the perspective of the outside looking in on his control of the team? Where is the scrutiny about what he does with all his time when he only coaches 1 game every X months? Whats Dale gonna say on the next call up to An-phoney ala Boyd, Gleeson etc?

If you are as organised as you say you are, this does not happen (a player being unfit). I accept a point made elsewhere that in some cases, the clubs control the training load because it is preseason but then wouldn't Hudson be saying to the Roar "hey we've got a big weekend coming up in September (and its been signposted 3 years ago) can we change the loading for this player here to help with that. In return, we wont call him up for the Japan game in October when you guys still play and may need him" I just don't understand how any of that dialogue does not happen if he is "The Great Communicator" and organised.

I also except that there could be the other side the the player has come in with a real 'well I am fit enough attitude' and perhaps its not enough. Is it likely thought for a thin 18yo athlete at a pro club on a pro contract to be "unfit"? (barring injury ala Dura (whom did fail last week or something? Why is he not off home?)

I'm a huge believer that when mum and dad have a fight, they do it in the bedroom away from the kids. I also accept that nosey New Zealand (and this place is much the same) want to know the details. The question I have is:

Is there a way that this could have been done, where nosey NZ get the details, the player has not being belittled in public and An-phoney does not look like King Kong beating his cheat saying 'look at me roar' /pun

Regardless of who is right and wrong in this situation, the execution has a real Donald Trump signature about it.

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Unknown editor edited August 29, 2017 21:32

Whether he has made the right call or not, one of the issues with An-phoney is that the dirty laundry gets aired in the media and it ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS goes tits up.

In this case, what did all this actually achieve? What does that say about him and his direct communication to the players? How does it reflect on him from the perspective of the outside looking in on his control of the team? Where is the scrutiny about what he does with all his time when he only coaches 1 game every X months? Whats Dale gonna say on the next call up to An-phoney ala Boyd, Gleeson etc?

If you are as organised as you say you are, this does not happen (a player being unfit). I accept a point made elsewhere that in some cases, the clubs control the training load because it is preseason but then wouldn't Hudson be saying to the Roar "hey we've got a big weekend coming up in September (and its been signposted 3 years ago) can we change the loading for this player here to help with that. In return, we wont call him up for the Japan game in October when you guys still play and may need him" I just don't understand how any of that dialogue does not happen if he is "The Great Communicator" and organised.

I also except that there could be the other side the the player has come in with a real 'well I am fit enough attitude' and perhaps its not enough. Is it likely thought for a thin 18yo athlete at a pro club on a pro contract to be "unfit"? (barring injury ala Dura (whom did fail last week or something? Why is he not off home?)

I'm a huge believer that when mum and dad have a fight, they do it in the bedroom away from the kids. I also accept that nosey New Zealand (and this place is much the same) want to know the details. The question I have is:

Is there a way that this could have been done, where nosey NZ get the details, the player has not being belittled in public and An-phoney does not look like King Kong beating his cheat saying 'look at me roar (pun)'

Regardless of who is right and wrong in this situation, the execution has a real Donald Trump signature about it.

Unknown editor edited August 29, 2017 21:32

Whether he has made the right call or not, one of the issues with An-phoney is that the dirty laundry gets aired in the media and it ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS goes tits up.

In this case, what did all this actually achieve? What does that say about him and his direct communication to the players? How does it reflect on him from the perspective of the outside looking in on his control of the team? Where is the scrutiny about what he does with all his time when he only coaches 1 game every X months? Whats Dale gonna say on the next call up to An-phoney ala Boyd, Gleeson etc?

If you are as organised as you say you are, this does not happen (a player being unfit). I accept a point made elsewhere that in some cases, the clubs control the training load because it is preseason but then wouldn't Hudson be saying to the Roar "hey we've got a big weekend coming up in September (and its been signposted 3 years ago) can we change the loading for this player here to help with that. In return, we wont call him up for the Japan game in October when you guys still play and may need him" I just don't understand how any of that dialogue does not happen if he is "The Great Communicator" and organised.

I also except that there could be the other side the the player has come in with a real 'well I am fit enough attitude' and perhaps its not enough. Is it likely thought for a thin 18yo athlete at a pro club on a pro contract to be "unfit" barring injury ala Dura (whom did fail last week or something?)

I'm a huge believer that when mum and dad have a fight, they do it in the bedroom away from the kids. I also accept that nosey New Zealand (and this place is much the same) want to know the details. The question I have is:

Is there a way that this could have been done, where nosey NZ get the details, the player has not being belittled in public and An-phoney does not look like King Kong beating his cheat saying 'look at me roar (pun)'

Regardless of who is right and wrong in this situation, the execution has a real Donald Trump signature about it.