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Posted November 16, 2024 00:35 · last edited November 16, 2024 04:27

The move to AFC debate has been done to death, but no business (and NZF is a business) is going to walk away from an almost guaranteed $US10M every 4 years (maybe $US20M if the Football Ferns earn the same).

NZF got $US8M with the AWs qualifying in 2010, and is no reason to see FIFA not doing these big WC qualification payouts ongoing. That 2010 windfall plus Mexican TV rights cash in 2013 has basically kept NZF afloat the last 14 odd years.

FIFA are filthy rich. They have cash reserves of nearly $USD4 billion. Paying each of the 48 qualified nations $USD10M ($14.4M approx), ain't a huge outlay for them. No doubt the expanded 48 team WC (from 32 teams) means a big big increase in media rights revenue and sponsorship dollars for FIFA, with more games/product to televise. A 40 game increase from 2022 (64 to 104) to 2026.

People complain on here about things like poor camera coverage of the national league, our age group national teams going to World Cups with no friendlies/camps/tours prior, low quality cheap national team coaches, and a multitude of other stuff it seems NZF currently don't have any serious cash to throw at.

$NZ16M/$32M every 4 years is a game changer. Absolute game changer, for cash strapped NZF.

Trying to have the AWs or Ferns qualify through AFC puts that windfall at serious risk. Though yeah the womens game is mostly piss weak in West Asia/Middle East, so the Ferns would likely still qualify for WWCs I'm guessing.

But yeah I imagine Pragnell & NZF really want to stay in OFC, and I don't blame them. And with OFC qualifying being completed in only 3 windows this cycle (and the AWs playing 4 of their 5 games at home), it ain't that bad. Especially if nations like Japan, Sth Korea, or even Aussie could be enticed to visit NZ from September window next year, for some friendlies. As may yet happen with 6 AFC teams having finished their WC qualifying by June next year, having already qualified for Nth America 2026.

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Unknown editor edited November 16, 2024 04:27
The move to AFC has been done to death, but no business (and NZF is a business) is going to walk away from an almost guaranteed $US10M every 4 years (maybe $US20M if the Football Ferns earn the same).

NZF got $US8M with the AWs qualifying in 2010, and is no reason to see FIFA not doing these big WC qualification payouts ongoing. That 2010 windfall plus Mexican TV rights cash in 2013 has basically kept NZF afloat the last 14 odd years.

FIFA are filthy rich. They have cash reserves of nearly $USD4 billion. Paying each of the 48 qualified nations $USD10M ($14.4M approx), ain't a huge outlay for them. No doubt the expanded 48 team WC (from 32 teams) means a big big increase in media rights revenue and sponsorship dollars for FIFA, with more games/product to televise. A 40 game increase from 2022 (64 to 104) to 2026.

People complain on here about things like poor camera coverage of the national league, our age group national teams going to World Cups with no friendlies/camps/tours prior, low quality cheap national team coaches, and a multitude of other stuff it seems NZF currently don't have any serious cash to throw at.

$NZ16M/$32M every 4 years is a game changer. Absolute game changer, for cash strapped NZF.

Trying to have the AWs or Ferns qualify through AFC puts that windfall at serious risk. Though yeah the womens game is mostly piss weak in West Asia/Middle East, so the Ferns would likely still qualify for WWCs I'm guessing.

But yeah I imagine Pragnell & NZF really want to stay in OFC, and I don't blame them. And with OFC qualifying being completed in only 3 windows this cycle (and the AWs playing 4 of their 5 games at home), it ain't that bad. Especially if nations like Japan, Sth Korea, or even Aussie could be enticed to visit NZ from September window next year, for some friendlies. As may yet happen with 6 AFC teams having finished their WC qualifying by June next year, having already qualified for Nth America 2026.

Unknown editor edited November 16, 2024 02:21
The move to AFC has been done to death, but no business (and NZF is a business) is going to walk away from an almost guaranteed $US10M every 4 years (maybe $US20M if the Football Ferns earn the same).

NZF got $US8M with the AWs qualifying in 2010, and is no reason to see FIFA not doing these big WC qualification payouts ongoing. That 2010 windfall plus Mexican TV rights cash in 2013 has basically kept NZF afloat the last 14 odd years.

FIFA are filthy rich. They have cash reserves of nearly $USD4 billion. Paying each of the 48 qualified nations $USD10M ($14.4M approx), ain't a huge outlay for them. No doubt the expanded 48 team WC (from 32 teams) means a big big increase in media rights revenue and sponsorship dollars for FIFA, with more games/product to televise. A 40 game increase from 2022 (64 to 104) to 2026.

People complain on here about things like poor camera coverage of the national league, our age group national teams going to World Cups with no friendlies/camps/tours prior, low quality cheap national team coaches, and a multitude of other stuff it seems NZF currently don't have any serious cash to throw at.

$NZ16M/$32M every 4 years is a game changer. Absolute game changer, for cash strapped NZF.

Trying to have the AWs or Ferns qualify through AFC puts that windfall at serious risk. Though yeah the womens game is mostly piss weak in West Asia/Middle East, so the Ferns would likely still qualify for WWCs I'm guessing.

But yeah I imagine Pragnell & NZF really want to stay in OFC, and I don't blame them. And with OFC qualifying being completed in only 3 windows this cycle (and the AWs playing 4 of their 5 games at home), it ain't that bad. Especially if nations like Japan, Sth Korea, or even Aussie could be enticed to visit NZ from September window next year, for some friendlies. As may yet happen with 6 AFC teams having finished their WC qualifying by June next year, having already qualified for Nth America 2026.

Edit - see in the below article have to split these big FIFA qualification payouts with the players. But still the cash is critical to NZF driving the code forward in a positive direction, and unleasing the sport's potential in NZ.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/all-whites-chase-richest-prize-in-new-zealand-sporting-history-as-fifa-world-cup-qualifying-gets-under-way/VRZCMR74HZFGDIFRU33BBFZ3TU/

Lastly I think have a 2nd NZ ALM team, and 2-3 big derbies each season now in NZ, goes a long way to replacing those big Bahrain/Mexico/Peru playoff games that are lost forever. Certainly gives football a big shop & media window a few extra times each summer now.


Unknown editor edited November 16, 2024 02:18
The move to AFC has been done to death, but no business (and NZF is a business) is going to walk away from an almost guaranteed $US10M every 4 years (maybe $US20M if the Football Ferns earn the same).

NZF got $US8M with the AWs qualifying in 2010, and is no reason to see FIFA not doing these big WC qualification payouts ongoing. That 2010 windfall plus Mexican TV rights cash in 2013 has basically kept NZF afloat the last 14 odd years.

FIFA are filthy rich. They have cash reserves of nearly $USD4 billion. Paying each of the 48 qualified nations $USD10M ($14.4M approx), ain't a huge outlay for them. No doubt the expanded 48 team WC (from 32 teams) means a big big increase in media rights revenue and sponsorship dollars for FIFA, with more games/product to televise. A 40 game increase from 2022 (64 to 104) to 2026.

People complain on here about things like poor camera coverage of the national league, our age group national teams going to World Cups with no friendlies/camps/tours prior, low quality cheap national team coaches, and a multitude of other stuff it seems NZF currently don't have any serious cash to throw at.

$NZ16M/$32M every 4 years is a game changer. Absolute game changer.

Trying to have the AWs or Ferns qualify through AFC puts that windfall at serious risk. Though yeah the womens game is mostly piss weak in West Asia/Middle East, so the Ferns would likely still qualify for WWCs I'm guessing.

But yeah I imagine Pragnell & NZF really want to stay in OFC, and I don't blame them. And with OFC qualifying being completed in only 3 windows this cycle (and the AWs playing 4 of their 5 games at home), it ain't that bad. Especially if nations like Japan, Sth Korea, or even Aussie could be enticed to visit NZ from September window next year, for some friendlies. As may yet happen with 6 AFC teams having finished their WC qualifying by June next year, having already qualified for Nth America 2026.

Edit - see in the below article have to split these big FIFA qualification payouts with the players. But still the cash is critical to NZF driving the code forward in a positive direction, and unleasing the sport's potential in NZ.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/all-whites-chase-richest-prize-in-new-zealand-sporting-history-as-fifa-world-cup-qualifying-gets-under-way/VRZCMR74HZFGDIFRU33BBFZ3TU/

Lastly I think have a 2nd NZ ALM team, and 2-3 big derbies each season now in NZ, goes a long way to replacing those big Bahrain/Mexico/Peru playoff games that are lost forever. Certainly gives football a big shop & media window a few extra times each summer now.


Unknown editor edited November 16, 2024 02:17
The move to AFC has been done to death, but no business (and NZF is a business) is going to walk aaway from an almost guaranteed $14M every 4 years (maybe $28M if Football Ferns get same).

NZF got $10M from memory with the AWs qualifying in 2010, and is no reason to see FIFA not doing these big WC qualification payouts ongoing. That 2010 windfall plus Mexican TV rights cash in 2013 has basically kept NZF afloat the last 14 odd years.

FIFA are filthy rich. They have cash reserves of nearly $USD4 billion. Paying each of the 48 qualified nations $USD10M ($14.4M approx), ain't a great outlay for them. No doubt the expanded 48 team WC (from 32 teams) means a big big increase in media rights revenue and sponsorship dollars for FIFA, with more games/product to televise. A 40 game increase from 2022 (64 to 104)

People complain on here about things like poor camera coverage of the national league, our age group national teams going to World Cups with no friendlies/camps/tours prior, low quality cheap national team coaches, and a multitude of other stuff it seems NZF currently don't have any serious cash to throw at.

$14M/$28M every 4 years is a game changer. Absolute game changer.

Trying to have the AWs or Ferns qualify through AFC puts that windfall at serious risk. Though yeah the womens game is mostly piss weak in West Asia/Middle East, so the Ferns would likely still qualify for WWCs I'm guessing.

But yeah I imagine Pragnell & NZF really want to stay in OFC, and I don't blame them. And with OFC qualifying being completed in only 3 windows this cycle (and the AWs playing 4 of their 5 games at home), it ain't that bad. Especially if nations like Japan, Sth Korea, or even Aussie could be enticed to visit NZ from September window next year, for some friendlies. As may yet happen with 6 AFC teams having finished their WC qualifying by June next year, having already qualified for Nth America 2026.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/all-whites-chase-richest-prize-in-new-zealand-sporting-history-as-fifa-world-cup-qualifying-gets-under-way/VRZCMR74HZFGDIFRU33BBFZ3TU/

Unknown editor edited November 16, 2024 02:10
The move to AFC has been done to death, but no business (and NZF is a business) is going to walk aaway from an almost guaranteed $14M every 4 years (maybe $28M if Football Ferns get same).

NZF got $10M from memory with the AWs qualifying in 2010, and is no reason to see FIFA not doing these big WC qualification payouts ongoing. That 2010 windfall plus Mexican TV rights cash in 2013 has basically kept NZF afloat the last 14 odd years.

FIFA are filthy rich. They have cash reserves of nearly $USD4 billion. Paying each of the 48 qualified nations $USD10M ($14.4M approx), ain't a great outlay for them. No doubt the expanded 48 team WC (from 32 teams) means a big big increase in media rights revenue and sponsorship dollars for FIFA, with more games/product to televise. A 40 game increase from 2022 (64 to 104)

People complain on here about things like poor camera coverage of the national league, our age group national teams going to World Cups with no friendlies/camps/tours prior, low quality cheap national team coaches, and a multitude of other stuff it seems NZF currently don't have any serious cash to throw at.

$14M/$28M every 4 years is a game changer. Absolute game changer.

Trying to have the AWs or Ferns qualify through AFC puts that windfall at serious risk. Though yeah the womens game is mostly piss weak in West Asia/Middle East, so the Ferns would likely still qualify for WWCs I'm guessing.

But yeah I imagine Pragnell & NZF really want to stay in OFC, and I don't blame them. And with OFC qualifying being completed in only 3 windows this cycle (and the AWs playing 4 of their 5 games at home), it ain't that bad. Especially if nations like Japan, Sth Korea, or even Aussie could be enticed to visit NZ from September window next year, for some friendlies. As may yet happen with 6 AFC teams having finished their WC qualifying by June next year, having already qualified for Nth America 2026.

Unknown editor edited November 16, 2024 02:08
The move to AFC has been done to death, but no business (and NZF is a business) is going to walk aaway from an almost guranteed $14M every 4 years (maybe $28M if Football Ferns get same).

NZF got $10M from memory with the AWs qualifying in 2010, and is no reason to see FIFA not doing these big WC qualification payouts ongoing. That 2010 windfall plus Mexican TV rights cash in 2013 has basically kept NZF afloat the last 14 odd years.

FIFA are filthy rich. They have cash reserves of nearly $USD4 billion. Paying each of the 48 qualified nations $USD10M ($14.4M approx), ain't a great outlay for them. No doubt the expanded 48 team WC (from 32 teams) means a big big increase in media rights revenue and sponsorship dollars for FIFA, with more games/product to televise. A 40 game increase from 2022 (64 to 104)

People complain on here about things like poor camera coverage of the national league, our age group national teams going to World Cups with no friendlies/camps/tours prior, low quality cheap national team coaches, and a multitude of other stuff it seems NZF currently don't have any serious cash to throw at.

$14M/$28M every 4 years is a game changer. Absolute game changer.

Trying to have the AWs or Ferns qualify through AFC puts that windfall at serious risk. Though yeah the womens game is mostly piss weak in West Asia/Middle East, so the Ferns would likely still qualify for WWCs I'm guessing.

But yeah I imagine Pragnell & NZF really want to stay in OFC, and I don't blame them. And with OFC qualifying being completed in only 3 windows this cycle (and the AWs playing 4 of their 5 games at home), it ain't that bad. Especially if nations like Japan, Sth Korea, or even Aussie could be enticed to visit NZ from September window next year, for some friendlies. As may yet happen with 6 AFC teams having finished their WC qualifying by June next year, having already qualified for Nth America 2026.

Unknown editor edited November 16, 2024 02:07
The move to AFC has been done to death, but no business (and NZF is a business) is going to walk aaway from an almost guranteed $14M every 4 years (maybe $28M if Football Ferns get same).

NZF got $10M from memory with the AWs qualifying in 2010, and is no reason to see FIFA not doing these big WC qualification payouts ongoing. That 2010 windfall plus Mexican TV rights cash in 2013 has basically kept NZF afloat the last 14 odd years.

FIFA are filthy rich. They have cash reserves of nearly $USD4 billion. Paying each of the 48 qualified nations $USD10M ($14.4M approx), ain't a great outlay for them. No doubt the expanded 48 team WC (from 32 teams) means a big big increase in media rights revenue and sponsorship dollars, with more games/product. to televise

People complain on here about things like poor camera coverage of the national league, our age group national teams going to World Cups with no friendlies/camps/tours prior, low quality cheap national team coaches, and a multitude of other stuff it seems NZF currently don't have any serious cash to throw at.

$14M/$28M every 4 years is a game changer. Absolute game changer.

Trying to have the AWs or Ferns qualify through AFC puts that windfall at serious risk. Though yeah the womens game is mostly piss weak in West Asia/Middle East, so the Ferns would likely still qualify for WWCs I'm guessing.

But yeah I imagine Pragnell & NZF really want to stay in OFC, and I don't blame them. And with OFC qualifying being completed in only 3 windows this cycle (and the AWs playing 4 of their 5 games at home), it ain't that bad. Especially if nations like Japan, Sth Korea, or even Aussie could be enticed to visit NZ from September window next year, for some friendlies. As may yet happen with 6 AFC teams having finished their WC qualifying by June next year, having qualified for Nth America 2026.

Unknown editor edited November 16, 2024 02:03
The move to AFC has been done to death, but no business (and NZF is a business) is going to walk aaway from an almost guranteed $14M every 4 years (maybe $28M if Football Ferns get same).

NZF got $10M from memory with the AWs qualifying in 2010, and is no reason to see FIFA not doing these big WC qualification payouts ongoing. That 2010 windfall plus Mexican TV rights cash in 2013 has basically kept NZF afloat the last 14 odd years.

People complain on here about things like poor camera coverage of the national league, our age group national teams going to World Cups with no friendlies/camps/tours prior, low quality cheap national team coaches, and a multitude of other stuff it seems NZF currently don't have any serious cash to throw at.

$14M/$28M every 4 years is a game changer. Absolute game changer.

Trying to have the AWs or Ferns qualify through AFC puts that windfall at serious risk. Though yeah the womens game is mostly piss weak in West Asia/Middle East, so the Ferns would likely still qualify for WWCs I'm guessing.

But yeah I imagine Pragnell & NZF really want to stay in OFC, and I don't blame them. And with OFC qualifying being completed in only 3 windows this cycle (and the AWs playing 4 of their 5 games at home), it ain't that bad. Especially if nations like Japan, Sth Korea, or even Aussie could be enticed to visit NZ from September window next year, for some friendlies. As may yet happen with 6 AFC teams having finished their WC qualifying by June next year, having qualified for Nth America 2026.

Unknown editor edited November 16, 2024 00:39
The move to AFC has been done to death, but no business (and NZF is a buysiness) is going to walk aaway from an almost guranteed $14M every 4 years (maybe $28M if Football Ferns get same).

NZF got $10M from memory with the AWs qualifying in 2010, is no reason to see FIFA not doing that ongoing. That 2010 windfall plus Mexican TV rights cash in 2013 has basically kept NZF afloat the last 14 odd years.

People complain on here about things like poor camera coverage of the national league, our age teams going to World Cups with no friendlies/camps/tours prior, inferior national team coaches, and a multitude of other stuff it seems NZF currently don't have any serious cash to throw at.

$14M/$28M every 4 years is a game changer. Absolute game changer.

Trying to have the AWs or Ferns qualify through AFC puts that windfall at serious risk. Though yeah the womens game is mostly piss weak in West Asia/Middle east, so the Ferns would likely still qualify I'm guessing.

But yeah I imagine Pragnell & NZF really want to stay in OFC, and I don't blame them. And with OFC qualifying been done in only 3 windows this cycle, it ain't that bad. Especially if nations like Japan, Sth Korea, or even Aussie could be enticed to NZ from September window next year, for some friendlies. As may yet happen with 6 AFC teams having finished their WC qualifying by June next year, having qualified for Nth America 2026.