Andy Martin - All you expect and less

Well it looks like the power of the individual (Erceg) is far greater than the power of the team

I can see 2 areas where NZF could help themselves

1: Lawyers fees on pointless appeals ($500k)

2: Sky Sport coverage ($300k)

Thats a lot of coin that could be used smarter

To be fair the pointless appeals had to happen with the pressure at the time.  Everyone was saying if it was fruitless, NZF owed it to the players to try.  They would have been damned either way.

And the Sky Sport coverage is probably one of the inevstments I think they did right.  If they want the league to pay for itself they need fans interested in watching.

They owed to the Football Community to be honest and say "we cheated"

I'm not saying I disagree with you, maybe the we cheated bit, as I suspect it was stupidity not malice that resulted in it.  But all of the sports personalities and ex All Whites were saying the opposite in the news at the time, so again, they were fudgeed either way.

Better to be fudgeed owning up to a mistake for free, than being fudgeed paying a bunch of money on a pointless appeal. 

NZF's latest annual report is out so I thought I'd see how expenditure has changed over time.

So the elephant in the room is Professional Services.

I can only think of prostitutes when I see those two words 

The only other option would be lawyer bills for the Wynnegate

Can anyone elaborate?

Assuming lawyers. It's highest in the last two year. Might be a bit of contracting work too (comms or Peter Taylor europeans couting junket).

#MartinReportCard. He's had 3+ years. Lucky with Japanese philanthropist. What other corporate $ has he brought in? That was one of his key KPIs and reasons he was hired.

Here are the changes year-on-year, indexed to 2012 spending level

Personnel expense is only trending in one direction. In fact doubled in the last four years.

That is staggering for any organisation and would usually mean a business is thriving 

Does this mean

1: it is thriving and we have had to hire many more staff 

Or

2: Pay rises/banking bonuses for the likes of Martin and Hudson?

Surely someone in the media needs to be asking these questions

I haven't seen any data on staff growth, but I believe that the Whole of Football Plan and Fit for Football have created a lot of jobs in grassroots football. For example, each region has a dedicated Fit for Football coordinator employed by NZF and Futsal has grown significantly in recent years. The boys at the top may be on significant wages, but I'd be surprised if it accounts for much of the increase.

good pleased to hear that is the case

What the fudge is this shark from a NZF release 

http://www.nzfootball.co.nz/nzf-mix-with-pele-and-...

Just some spin to avoid the truth of how sharke we were.

True or not I do not understand for the life of me why it needs to be said and why it's in a press release from NZ football.  If it's an attempt at big noting how important they are they have missed the target by a fudgeing mile.

They also said they had a good relationship with Infantino just when this came out:

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/jun/18/g...

I don't get why they didn't include the first part of the paragraph?

There's probably some sort of contractual obligation to not represent the host country in a negative light.

That or Martin doesn't want to munch on a polonium sandwich.

It make me feel ill to agree with Patrick but I can't 'this' his point enough.

(not actually thissing it 'cos Patrick).

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/other-sports/93482083/former-olympian-blake-skjellerup-says-sport-can-do-more-for-homophobia

Timely based on the above isn't it...

Mouth open, Foot entering. Shut up Andy Martin, just shut up and travel coach class to Lima!

I bet the ' coach class '  does not happen.

When they moaned that it was going to cost 800k and then it became 2 million - allegedly, I was astounded. As you may have seen in the other thread, I did costings on Webjet. Sure it was only a rough marker but it was substantially less than what these guys said. Perhaps if the administrators all caught coach class and the players all caught Business class, it might work out great. Or even if it was only the players whom got first class and the rest in business class.....

As for making it living hell for Peru, what a stupid thing to say. Martin should have said..."We'd like all the fans to recreate the same atmosphere as there was here for the Bahrain game". It was a brilliant night for everyone including the visiting fans. I hope to see this again. I have respect for a country that is rated 10th in the world. It might be flattering but they have played a lot of games. 

Where did the $2 million figure come from, was it NZF or just the internet?

Doing a straight comparison with Webjet doesn't really give you a proper comparison. Flights from here to Lima will all be the same as they will travel together, but when they leave they will be going to UK, USA, Europe, Australia & NZ, then there are  costs for accommodation, meals, training facilities, insurance, player payments (for players and their clubs). With a playing squad of 22 and 10-15 support staff, it soon adds up quickly, and while FIFA does contribute a bit, its not really much in the big picture of things.

Do you need 10-15 support staff? 7 including a translator would work. business class.

That's 10 right there

All travelling first class.

NZF should be taking who they need be it lawyers, psychiatrists, doctors, physios, whatever. They shouldn't all fly first class but they shouldn't spare expenses either.

Don't forget the fax machine. That piece of 20th Century technology will need a whole seat to itself.

If you are expecting people to travel 12-15 hours and then be at the absolute top of their games then business class is a no brainer.  Try doing proper video analysis when you've been stuck in cattle class for 14 hours on no sleep.  You can quibble with who needs to be there but its too simplistic to say that support staff shouldn't travel in business class - if they need to be there then they need to be there in good nick

What are you going as? (insert winking smilie imogee)