Well, technically, it's NZF's fault for signing a deal to have every All Whites game in AKL until 2018 played in the arse-end of beyond rather than, for example, the much more central Mt Smart.
Mt Smart central? Lol wut?
You forget how decentralised this place is. 15 mins from Ponsonby with no traffic sounds about right. But only a tiny minority of us live around there. What if you were coming from Titirangi? Howick? Manurewa?
My drive was longer than 15 minutes.
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If we want the national team to become more competitive, then these crowd numbers show that there is a lot of growth needed right around the country. I'm not sure whether these were a success or not. If the goal is to get sell out crowds then playing just one of these would have been more successful. Games should only be scheduled on weekends for travel, the social occasion and getting families with youngish kids along. Christchurch should get the next one. There needs to be a bit more exposure before the game as well to help ticket sales with the non-hardcore fan section, the entire marketing process of NZFA needs to be looked at.
I'm not really familiar enough with the North Shore, to know whether that is a problem or not. Location is a key thing, the old Athletic park was terrible. Are there bars around Albany for the pre/after match? Iv'e never really had problems getting around Auckland at night though, it's only during rush times when the traffic clogs up.
I don't think these were disasters though. NZ were competitive, should have really beaten Honduras, and will improve from playing these games. The public did get to see the team and players play twice and they got close to breaking even. And since we were getting the european players in it would have seemed a shame not to schedule a second game.
rjmiller2010-10-13 12:00:07
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Well, technically, it's NZF's fault for signing a deal to have every All Whites game in AKL until 2018 played in the arse-end of beyond rather than, for example, the much more central Mt Smart.
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Mt Smart central? Lol wut?
More central. I know that it's closer to where you live, but NHS is on the fringes of even the Shore, and therefore out in the backblocks of new glorious SuperCity. Imagine if the RoF was in Waikanae, what Nix crowds would be like.
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You forget how decentralised this place is. 15 mins from Ponsonby with no traffic sounds about right. But only a tiny minority of us live around there. What if you were coming from Titirangi? Howick? Manurewa?
My drive was longer than 15 minutes.
From my place it takes about the same time to drive to Hamilton as it does to North Harbour
Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.
"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003
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Well, technically, it's NZF's fault for signing a deal to have every All Whites game in AKL until 2018 played in the arse-end of beyond rather than, for example, the much more central Mt Smart.
Mt Smart central? Lol wut?
More central. I know that it's closer to where you live, but NHS is on the fringes of even the Shore, and therefore out in the backblocks of new glorious SuperCity. Imagine if the RoF was in Waikanae, what Nix crowds would be like.
Where I and about 200,000 other people live. Eden Park is about as good as it gets when it comes to central stadiums in Akl.
Three for me, and two for them.
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As long as you don't want to drive there...
Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.
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Well, technically, it's NZF's fault for signing a deal to have every All Whites game in AKL until 2018 played in the arse-end of beyond rather than, for example, the much more central Mt Smart.
Mt Smart central? Lol wut?
More central. I know that it's closer to where you live, but NHS is on the fringes of even the Shore, and therefore out in the backblocks of new glorious SuperCity. Imagine if the RoF was in Waikanae, what Nix crowds would be like.
Waikane doesn't have a population of 220k like the Shore
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This is both an amusing and an interesting fred.
Back in the days of the Super 12 I went to a few cake tin games from Palmy Nth. There are also some Nix die hards who trek from Whangas, Palmy and beyond regularly.
Personally I don't think a Waikanae venue (the Ring of Sand?) in terms of location would impact on crowds IF the brand of football and "entertainment" value appealed to the punter.
There is also a mental block in terms of distance/venue. e.g. if the venue was in Paraparaumu most people would think of that as "up the road/train track", but Otaki only another 10 mins drive away might be a bit far.
Anyway seeing as how there is a bit of angst over location and ease of access in Akld I now think:
ChCh >> Akld => Wgtn>>>>>>>>>>>>>>RoD (PNth)
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Chch got more than both of you... to a nix game.
Just sayin'.
Just sayin'.
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Chch got more than both of you... to a nix game.
Just sayin'.
Just sayin'.
Just goes to show what is the more important game.
(I'm sorry - that doesn't sound like a Kiwi at all)
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16477 in Wellington. All things considered, that is far more impressive than what Auckland got, but screw it - congrats to Auckland. You got the bigger crowd. Gotta give credit to that. That being said, while Auckland won the quantity race by a nose, Wellington won the quality race by a country mile. So I'll take that 
Both Auckland and Wellington had decent crowds. What is it with this everyone vs Auckland,�� Wellington is so f**king amazing their sh*t dont stink mentality.
So acknowledging the success of both cities is "everyone vs Auckland" and "zomg Wellington"? Especially given that I specifically congratulated Auckland? And didn't make a single disparaging comment about the city? Wow, hate to see how'd you react if someone actually criticized Jafaland. Don't get so defensive just because I celebrated the success of my hometown more than that of yours.
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Auckland = Volcanic death trap.
We will never fully decide who has won the football.
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Auckland = Volcanic death trap.
Better to burn out than to fade away.
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i say hold all future games in Rotorua
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16477 in Wellington. All things considered, that is far more impressive than what Auckland got, but screw it - congrats to Auckland. You got the bigger crowd. Gotta give credit to that. That being said, while Auckland won the quantity race by a nose, Wellington won the quality race by a country mile. So I'll take that
Both Auckland and Wellington had decent crowds. What is it with this everyone vs Auckland, Wellington is so f**king amazing their sh*t dont stink mentality.
So acknowledging the success of both cities is "everyone vs Auckland" and "zomg Wellington"? Especially given that I specifically congratulated Auckland? And didn't make a single disparaging comment about the city? Wow, hate to see how'd you react if someone actually criticized Jafaland. Don't get so defensive just because I celebrated the success of my hometown more than that of yours.
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Well, technically, it's NZF's fault for signing a deal to have every All Whites game in AKL until 2018 played in the arse-end of beyond rather than, for example, the much more central Mt Smart.
Mt Smart central? Lol wut?
More central. I know that it's closer to where you live, but NHS is on the fringes of even the Shore, and therefore out in the backblocks of new glorious SuperCity. Imagine if the RoF was in Waikanae, what Nix crowds would be like.
It would have saved me $80 for a taxi last night 
(thank you very much to the guys who gave me a lift to porirua last night)
Kiwi Hatter2010-10-13 20:02:28We're the WELLINGTON Phoenix
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...(thank you very much to the guys who gave me a lift to porirua last night)
The Police?I know, I know, its serious!
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Chch got more than both of you... to a nix game.Just sayin'.
The fact this is true is shameful for Auckers and Wellywood. Challenge to Christchurch to get the same amount to the Adelaide game, Terry needs the money to pay his rates.
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So when England sell out Wembley [or whatever its called now] the whole crowd have come from North London? NHS is fine as a location, especially for a weekend afternoon or night game. You'd get there by car from Papakura in under an hour. You'd spend more time in the carpark at the end than it would take you to drive home. I think NZF have to appreciate that it is on the outskirts of populated Auckland and the free public transport thing is a must. Also question the need for pubs/clubs etc, a lot of the crowd wouldn't be worried about that. Stay in the city, take the free bus to and from and hit the town when you get back.
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So when England sell out Wembley [or whatever its called now] the whole crowd have come from North London?
Completely different scenario. But you know that right?
Three for me, and two for them.
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I just love it when you point out other peoples deliberately bad logic. Good work!Allegedly
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So when England sell out Wembley [or whatever its called now] the whole crowd have come from North London?
Completely different scenario. But you know that right?
Think that the question mark on the end would suggest he's asking a, somewhat sarcastic, question , rather than stating it as fact. 
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Lets take the ASB home game crowds over a full season to determine which centre holds the All Ahites games. You can combine the 2 Auckland based teams and they still wouldn't get near enough to hold a game.
Christchurch first in line followed at the bottom by Wellington.
Gives Napier and Hamilton a shot.
Christchurch first in line followed at the bottom by Wellington.
Gives Napier and Hamilton a shot.
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The two Auckland teams get the best crowds with the exception of the odd game at Chch. Wellington get fuck all crowds as does everyone else.
Three for me, and two for them.
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Depends when your snapshot is. First two or three seasons that was reversed, and Waitak only get a crowd when the play City.
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Seriously, where are you getting your facts from for the ASB premiership...? The crowd numbers are often just done by the online reporter of the day who is a club member so always thinks of a number and doubles it...
Ive been to every ground over the last 4 years or so of the NZFC and would say as far as crowds go the order would be
Auckland City
Waitakere
Wellington
Christchurch
Manawatu
Waikato (bigger when at Ngaruawahia - admittedly free entry and were top of the league
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Otago
But to be honest apart from ACFC and the occassional game elsewhere the crowds at these games are very poor.
Ive been to every ground over the last 4 years or so of the NZFC and would say as far as crowds go the order would be
Auckland City
Waitakere
Wellington
Christchurch
Manawatu
Waikato (bigger when at Ngaruawahia - admittedly free entry and were top of the league
)Otago
But to be honest apart from ACFC and the occassional game elsewhere the crowds at these games are very poor.
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I'm surprised the westies get ANY crowd playing in a paddock in the arse end of beyond.
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people arguing about NZF attendances are like bald men arguing about a comb
All I do is make the stuff I would've liked
Reference things I wanna watch, reference girls I wanna bite
Now I'm firefly like a burning kite
And yousa fake fuck like a fleshlight
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I'm surprised the westies get ANY crowd playing in a paddock in the arse end of beyond.
It's perfect. They park their houses in the paddock next door. A dog with a bone :)
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Seriously this is rubbish- The Ring of Fire hands down kicks the arse of the North Harbour staidum.
As a parochial Aucklander...wouldn't mind maybe seeing a game at Eden park but that'd be fairly unlikely I guess....and don't know what the new one is like, didn't get down the other week...
As a parochial Aucklander...wouldn't mind maybe seeing a game at Eden park but that'd be fairly unlikely I guess....and don't know what the new one is like, didn't get down the other week...
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