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AW vs Honduras Oct 9 Match Thread

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Personally I thought Leo played better than he has as of late... He did a few good runs other than the one that went out for a GK, and his crosses were at least 98496357893859689483496793x better than Elliotts.
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koreankiwi wrote:
Personally I thought Leo played better than he has as of late... He did a few good runs other than the one that went out for a GK, and his crosses were at least 98496357893859689483496793x better than Elliottts.



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Elliottttt did well (apart from his corners) considering he hasn't played in months

threat wrote:
when do football anthems have a singer?
And i think not selling out NHS in auckland is pretty appauling.


Am happy anyone turned up tbh. Far from a disaster. Do wish it was a few thousand more but what can you do? 5 years ago a game against Honduras would've only pulled 6 or 7 thousand.

And it would be hard to find a singer that knows the Honduran national anthemvaleo2010-10-10 13:56:36

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Good post Scooby D - except I didnt think Vicelich had that great a game, in fact (and I havent seen the replay yet) I thought Ivan was at fault for the goal for a poor clearing header.
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18,000 was actually a good turnout - all things considered. And it is a lot to ask that everyone knows the chants and understands the "White Noise" football culture. Perhaps as a supporters group we could do better encouraging people to get into it. We cannot expect that a bunch of fans from Welly (and elsewhere) can just turn up and everyone will understand and appreciate how we do things. Let's face it, without a few seasons of the Yellow Fever building up a culture supporting the Nix there would not have been the same atmosphere at the Bahrain game. I wasn't there, but I doubt the atmosphere at RoF at the first Nix game was as brilliant as it is now. These things take time.

That said, how dare someone tell me to sit down in the White Noise zone!
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man i knew smeltzy was gona miss...... guted, but we played great

Calling all fans in Japan, come down and support the mighty nix in Osaka

http://www.facebook.com/WellingtonPhoenixClubMembersSupportersGroupOsaka

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have to say that Leo was better than he has been of late, although I do think that Tim Brown didnt play well at all.. and it maybe me but is he the clumsiest player in Australasian football presently?  an awful ot of his bookings seem to come from him clattering into players, almost like he hasnt seen them

" If you only have a hammer you tend to see every problem as a nail" - maslow

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Footpaul wrote:
18,000 was actually a good turnout - all things considered. And it is a lot to ask that everyone knows the chants and understands the "White Noise" football culture. Perhaps as a supporters group we could do better encouraging people to get into it. We cannot expect that a bunch of fans from Welly (and elsewhere) can just turn up and everyone will understand and appreciate how we do things. Let's face it, without a few seasons of the Yellow Fever building up a culture supporting the Nix there would not have been the same atmosphere at the Bahrain game. I wasn't there, but I doubt the atmosphere at RoF at the first Nix game was as brilliant as it is now. These things take time.That said, how dare someone tell me to sit down in the White Noise zone!


You are aware chanting existed in NZ before Yellow Fever, right?

Three for me, and two for them.

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Buffon II wrote:
Footpaul wrote:
18,000 was actually a good turnout - all things considered. And it is a lot to ask that everyone knows the chants and understands the "White Noise" football culture. Perhaps as a supporters group we could do better encouraging people to get into it. We cannot expect that a bunch of fans from Welly (and elsewhere) can just turn up and everyone will understand and appreciate how we do things. Let's face it, without a few seasons of the Yellow Fever building up a culture supporting the Nix there would not have been the same atmosphere at the Bahrain game. I wasn't there, but I doubt the atmosphere at RoF at the first Nix game was as brilliant as it is now. These things take time.That said, how dare someone tell me to sit down in the White Noise zone!


You are aware chanting existed in NZ before Yellow Fever, right?


Of course! But arguably Yellow Fever have done a lot for improving support for the All Whites and forming a supporters' culture around the team, particularly in Wellington. And the great crowd atmosphere in Wellington reflects that and should be encouraged elsewhere, but it takes time.

It just seems stupid to bitch and right off Auckland's crowd when for most people there the culture of White Noise is alien to them. We should can either promote the type of atmosphere we ave in Wellington, or enjoy rugby crowds when we play up here (or elsewhere in the country for that matter).
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Buffon II wrote:
Footpaul wrote:
18,000 was actually a good turnout - all things considered. And it is a lot to ask that everyone knows the chants and understands the "White Noise" football culture. Perhaps as a supporters group we could do better encouraging people to get into it. We cannot expect that a bunch of fans from Welly (and elsewhere) can just turn up and everyone will understand and appreciate how we do things. Let's face it, without a few seasons of the Yellow Fever building up a culture supporting the Nix there would not have been the same atmosphere at the Bahrain game. I wasn't there, but I doubt the atmosphere at RoF at the first Nix game was as brilliant as it is now. These things take time.That said, how dare someone tell me to sit down in the White Noise zone!


You are aware chanting existed in NZ before Yellow Fever, right?

Yes,but in Wellington we have done it week in week out for a few years now. That wasn't really an anti-Auckland statement

Allegedly

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Footpaul wrote:
To those who SITTING in the White Noise zone behind us who kept complaining that we were standing - I hope you enjoyed looking at my back! The security were going to kick us out

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Footpaul wrote:
We got quite a bit of grief from security and sitting patrons about standing [/QUOTE]

Footpaul wrote:
Unfortunately half of block five didn't get the memo!


[QUOTE=Footpaul]
Security told us they would kick us out if we didn't sit


[QUOTE=Footpaul]That said, how dare someone tell me to sit down in the White Noise zone!


Let me get this straight, people didn't like that you were standing?
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Would it make any difference if the Yellow Fever/White Noise die-hards contacted ground security directly in future, to clarify the whole 'we stand up at the football' thing?

The zones are called White Noise/Yellow Fever, based on the support this site generates. I think it would be fair to say we should have some input on how the zones are run by security staff, eg not threatening to evict people who are standing

It seems to me people can't rely on NZFootball for much of anything, they're bloody hopeless outside of organising two teams to show up.Ard Righ2010-10-10 16:36:43
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conorphelan wrote:
Footpaul wrote:
To those who SITTING in the White Noise zone behind us who kept complaining that we were standing - I hope you enjoyed looking at my back! The security were going to kick us out

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Footpaul wrote:
We got quite a bit of grief from security and sitting patrons about standing [/QUOTE]

Footpaul wrote:
Unfortunately half of block five didn't get the memo!


[QUOTE=Footpaul]
Security told us they would kick us out if we didn't sit


[QUOTE=Footpaul]That said, how dare someone tell me to sit down in the White Noise zone!


Let me get this straight, people didn't like that you were standing?


Nah, they weren't too chuffed!
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Buffon II wrote:
VimFuego wrote:
What was the atmosphere at the game like. Not sure bout the others that watched on TV but there was some random things picked up on the sideline microphone from the crowd. Like 'shut the F up' etc. Heaps funny.


There were two annoying as f**k drunk bitches next to me and my mate. Screaming all bloody night and they didn't even know what was going on ffs. This was in the zone btw.
I reckon I may of shared the bus back to town with them.....
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Doloras wrote:
The worst thing about this game - apart from Judas's screw-up - was the fact that the Zone was ruined by threatening thugs in leather jackets who didn't realise that we stand up at the football. Many of us shifted to Bloc 31 in the second half and had much more fun there.

But I'm proud that Auckland proved we can host a decent football match.
I was surprised when those near the back started calling for everyone to sit down. They obviously didn't know what the White Noise zone was. I wonder if when ou picked the best seats available - seats in the zone came up? If so, they had every right to be annoyed but what's the point of having that zone if everyone sat down like they do everywhere else.
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worst performance of the day was Peter O'Leary, that penalty was never a  pen
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So, I just got back to Wellington now. Loved the game. I was sitting in the top stand and thought the view was very good. Chris Wood has a lot of promise. Paston made some super saves, RH has quite a dilemma when he puts his Nix hat back on. Thought Brockie was also very good. Nelsen is a monster in defence. Anyway, bring on Paraguay!
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Footpaul wrote:

conorphelan wrote:

Footpaul wrote:
To those who SITTING in the White Noise zone behind us who kept
complaining that we were standing - I hope you enjoyed looking at my
back! The security were going to kick us out
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Footpaul wrote:
We got quite a bit of grief from security and sitting patrons about standing [/QUOTE]
Footpaul wrote:
Unfortunately half of block five didn't get the memo!
[QUOTE=Footpaul]Security told us they would kick us out if we didn't sit
[QUOTE=Footpaul]That said, how dare someone tell me to sit down in the White Noise zone!
Let me get this straight, people didn't like that you were standing?
Nah, they weren't too chuffed!



Just read this quote off the All Whites page, pretty much summed it up the Aucklanders not realize that we stand all game.

"Who stays standing for the whole match? That's just stupid. Lots of the time people were standing though so get your facts right Phillip. What's the point of a seat if you don't sit on it at least some of the time!"
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95% of the comments on that page are stupid, so i wouldn't read too much into it.

I would like to know if people who bought tickets in the White Zone knew it was a specifically allocated zone at the time.Buffon II2010-10-10 17:24:59

Three for me, and two for them.

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Oh, and I found the PA system ridiculously loud. Though that may have been more where I was sitting.
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Had a bit of a trawl through the posts now, apologies for hitting the quote/reply button before reading everything. My 2 cents worth:
 
Great idea with the free transport to/from game.
Thought the crowd was a reasonable size and Auckland/NZ didn't embarras itself with that number.
Good atmosphere.
Sat in block 6 next to White noise. Actually enjoy WN/YF a lot better when further away from them where you get the benefit of the chants etc without having to smell the dope and watch the pissheads. Yes, at one stage I thought I was at the rugby league.
I thought the WN zone might have been better further to the sides of the stand instead of smack bang in the middle of the action. I sit at the football and I couldn't see the bottom left part of the field because of those standing in 5. It wasn't so much to be a burden, but in Wellington, YF standing up blocks no one.
The Ref was too quick with the cards I thought and wasn't consistent, let go some shockers from the AWs and let the Hondurams get away with too many dives. He is usually pretty card happy though isn't he?
We were good enough to win that game, a draw was a dissappointment and a loss would have been straight unfair.
Didn't get a good look at the penalty [wish there was a big replay screen there].
Thought everyone played well, best players for me were Paston, Nelsen, Brockie.
Loved watching our backline - they are beasts.Overall we are a very physical side and I like watching that - it will give us an edge in future games against more flashy opponents.
Thought Wood could have scored a few more with better finishing, While appreciating the humour of the down-trou, bloody stupid at that level especially with that idot referee having one hand on the yellow card, Wood could have been sent off at any stage after that for just breathing on one of the blue players.
Which one was the Wigan player? didn't see anyone in the blue team that shone out as EPL material.
A great night that could only have been better with the win. I'd go back to Auckland to watch again.  
 
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Yeah would could have had 2, 3 or even 4 goals. Was denied twice though by excellent saves.
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Security tried to tell us to sit down in Melbourne a few months back too as there were a group behind me telling me to sit down (and apparently it's MCG policy). I just moved over and stood in the isle, then security tried to tell me to move back to my allocated seat. I think Ard Righ had the right idea suggesting to get hold of ground staff before hand.

18 000 is a decent crowd but I think AMI would have had more in it. The stands behind one of the goals was about 95% empty and nobody in the embankment? Although to be fair I think embankments aren't allowed to have fans in it during an International A fixture.
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Which one was the Wigan player? didn't see anyone in the blue team that shone out as EPL material.
He didn't take the field oddly enough. Can't remember his name but there are three brothers in the squad and he's one of them.
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I went to the game last night and really enjoyed myself. The first positive was the free, and very well organised transport to and from the game. Secondly, the atmosphere at the game. I thought the crowd got involved and enjoyed themselves. I think the Yellow Fever need to be a little careful that they dont try and dictate how fans need to react at a game. How you crerate an atmosphere at Westpac is great but that is your stadium.
 
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Grinch - welcome to the forum.

I don't think people are trying to dictate what happens in Akld/ChCh or wherever.

It's just that there is a designated Fever Zone or White Noise zone which is where those who want to can stand up and sing rude things about the ref and opposition.

So it's disappointing that others choose to go there and expect everyone else to sit down.


Edit: That's why we don't have tickets for the fever zone but certainly enjoy SITTING in nearby aisles.
Junior822010-10-10 17:49:54

"Phoenix till they lose"

Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion. 

Genuine opinion: FTFFA

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Did Figueroa even get on?
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When the Phoenix came to Christchurch YF 'dictated' the crowd and it worked well, some even compared it to Nov 14 . You just need to go with the flow. Internationals like that are few and far between, and spread between cities, so atmosphere won't build up like it has with YF. 
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Grinch wrote:
How you crerate an atmosphere at Westpac is great but that is your stadium.
 
Hold on to your hats folks............
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Luis Garcia wrote:
Did Figueroa even get on?


Was he even on the bench?
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timmymadden wrote:
Which one was the Wigan player? didn't see anyone in the blue team that shone out as EPL material.
He didn't take the field oddly enough. Can't remember his name but there are three brothers in the squad and he's one of them.


There is Figueroa who plays for Wigan. He was in the squad but didn't play. And then Wilson Palacios is the one of three brothers who plays for Tottenham. But he wasn't in the squad at all.
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Grinch wrote:
I think the Yellow Fever need to be a little careful that they dont try and dictate how fans need to react at a game...
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Interested in this comment.

Did it relate to standing up? Or were non-YFers (and not sure how you tell who "the Yellow Fever" is) given a hard time for not knowing the words or singing the 'wrong' songs?

If the former, then there should have been a clear message that WN is a standing zone (although there may be FIFA restrictions preventing being explicit about this on the tickets for example).

If the latter, are you sure that it was YF and not some new folk who like the idea of behaving like idiots / hooligans (and think they can do get away with it under the guise of 'that's what you do at the soccer').

Quite different issues requiring different response.

I know, I know, its serious!

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Parking was a shambles though. Had one hour sitting waiting to move before everyone got tired of waiting and drove down the banks and out the one way streets.
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Hammer Head wrote:
Good post Scooby D - except I didnt think Vicelich had that great a game, in fact (and I havent seen the replay yet) I thought Ivan was at fault for the goal for a poor clearing header.


Ta. Vicelich didn't do too much on attack, didn't see his mistake for the goal.

And I didn't expect them to have a Honduras singer, but for the NZ anthem, nobody around us had any idea when it started (there's usually an intro) so it was all pretty underwhelming. By contrast at ABs games it's pretty powerful with the whole crowd singing loud and in time with a singer (anyone but Frankie Stevens please).

No big screen was a bit sh*t.....although if they don't have one at the stadium then it's not like they can just whip one up from down the road I guess.
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I was a bit surprised to turn up and find I was going to have to sit down - just cos at every home/away Nix/AW game I haven't been. So I sat for first half and second half a group went around to an empty part of the stadium to stand and have a few laffs.

Founder

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This game was a trial run for the rugby world cup. The whole idea was to use the free public transport.
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I think it is exciting to remember that Wood is only 18. I thought he has a great touch and although he might have done better with a couple of his chances, he was brilliant. He is going places, I reckon.

Grinch: As far as White Noise/Yellow Fever dictating the atmosphere - it is a fan-driven supporters group. The people behind it are as dedicated to the team as anyone. There was a block of seats designated as the "White Noise Zone", and it should have been evident to everyone purchasing tickets (it was online). The area is designated as WNZ so that the supporters group can sit together and also so that people who don't care for standing and chanting can go elsewhere to enjoy themselves.
As far as I'm aware, White Noise is not an exclusive group - anyone can get involved and enjoy themselves, not just Wellingtonians (I'm an Aucklander). But to sit in that designated area and complain about the way WN enjoy the match - who is dictating who?
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I bought tickets fairly quickly and wanted to join White Noise but it was already sold out, so there must have been a large chunk of those seated in Block 5 who were a bit ignorant/misinformed about what the White Noise Zone is.
 
However, I should add that I had a great time where I was (Block 3) and enjoyed seeing such an open game. I thought the All Whites played really well and was impressed with the way the back 3 + 2 wing backs stuck to their formation. The All Whites have come a long way. 18,000 wasn't too bad at all.
 
Just a shame some of the whingers on here saw it differently (i won't say whooooo i'm talking about though).
 
  
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I assume you were the one with the West Ham flag a few rows in front of us trying to start up a few chants occasionally? Good man.
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