bloody scalpers

bloody scalpers

I propose that we bomb those on trademe selling tickets at 3 times the value and growing with many messages expressing our distaste.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Sports/Event-tickets/auction-248887847.htm
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Sports/Event-tickets/auction-248746255.htm

Unless they have a legitimate excuse. Eg there are two tickets that are part of the 15year ticket membership they sold when the stadium was built to help finance them. Obviously not football fans. Although then again they are still making money of NZ football. Those 2 tickets are at $350.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Sports/Event-tickets/auction-248709060.htm

They are piggy backing of the huge success of the event to make money off NZ football. If you couldn't make it to the game you would have friends who would want to go. I have 32 tickets for my friends and wouldn't dream of selling out fot the money. Sentimental > money.

On the bright side, most who have tickets really want to be there so it wll be the best crowd at a NZ sporting event ever.


Or I may be wrong and you disagree with me, but let me know.

Unfortunately the comments you write are only published if the seller chooses them to be.

Yeah I know, only if they answer the question. But will atleast make them think about it.

Even better, why don't NZ football bid on and win the auctions and then get them red handed?

If they open the auction at face value (as one looks like it did) then I have some sympathy for them.

unfortunately, scalpers are simply doing what the market demands as no one if forced to purchase tickets at a higher price, but if there is demand, it will happen. the buyer agrees to pay the price the scalper demands. if people were really that upset about it, they wouldn't buy the tickets off scalpers and would have purchased their tickets for the original price earlier. Leading to absolutely no market for scalping.

Edit: no, i am not scalping tickets! so don't hate me. it's just good economic theory put into practice.
this way everyone, who wants to, goes to the game at the price they place on the eventscarf.man2009-10-21 13:04:18

If they listed them on trademe (as it looks like they did) then I have no sympathy for them. They are scum. If they listed it with a buy now of 39 then sure.

But what legitimate reason could there be for
a) not going
b) not having any friends or family who want to
given that you purchased the tickets.

No sympathy.

Good idea or you could report the auctions to trademe.

I remember when michael jackson died, there was this lady who was selling this replica MJ  jacket, which she said was rare, she got 450 bucks for it, a quick search on ebay showed those jackets were going for about 60 bucks a piece, there were tons of them.

It seemed she got all her friends to comment on her auction, becuase the comments were telling her how great she was for selling the jacket and dont listen to the knockers.

Yeah the problem is trademe dont care. They get their listing and success fees and its not their responsibility to police it.

They covered scalpers on 'Target' (I think) last week. It's not illegal and Trade Me don't really want to get involved. However, a guy from Trade Me did say on the programme that if they received enough complaints they would consider reviewing their position.

HB, is that needed? Show your love to those who want to make some bucks. Afterall, you won't ba the one parting $$. If nobody buys, then seller won't make any cents! Hate campaign is quite unncessary.

I don't exactly like scalpers. But if you report them to trademe and the auctions get stopped, Then at the stadium we get an extra people who don't care about football.
 I would rather, they sell them (If people are interested) and then we get an extra 100  keen football supporters, who were prepared to pay the extra money for tickets.

To be honest i am probably going to do that sort of things for the sevens. I had no idea the tickets were going on sale. (Admittedly my own fault for not looking)  So i go on trademe, by the extra tickets pay the extra cash.
I still get to go and get pissed and have fun, and the dude makes a bit of money.

 

YF does not condone any kind of hate campaign (except against Robbie Kruze).

SiNZ2009-10-21 15:17:29

While most of this people are most likely legitimate dirtbags there could be a number of decent reasons to sell them.  They could have bought a ticket, realized they couldn't attend and decided they wanted to make a bit of money - fair enough, I'd do the same.  OR they got ticket/s free and aren't football fans so decided to make a bit on them.

They should sell them at face value if they have to sell for legitimate reasons.  People would be up in arms if NZ Football tried to sell tickets for these prices, so why should scum be able to create false scarcity, not let people buy the tickets originally at set price and then profit off an event while adding nothing.

It's supply and demand though, we can complain all we want but really if people are willing to pay those prices for the tickets then that is what they will sell at. If not, the price will decrease.

And the chances of ticketek doing anything are next to none but I'm sure everyone on here knows that already.

It's not simple suppply and demand, scalping is a form of price-fixing.

Couldn't you argue that scalpers who buy loads of tickets with the express purpose of selling them on are actually artificially creating a demand by depriving people of tickets in the 1st place

That's what I meant by price-fixing.

From Wikipedia:

Price fixing requires a conspiracy between two or more sellers; the purpose is to coordinate pricing for mutual benefit at the expense of buyers. Sellers might agree to sell at a common target price; set a common "minimum" price; buy the product from a supplier at a specified "maximum" price; adhere to a price book or list price; engage in cooperative price advertising; standardize financial credit terms offered to purchasers; use uniform trade-in allowances; limit discounts; discontinue a free service or fix the price of one component of an overall service; adhere uniformly to previously-announced prices and terms of sale; establish uniform costs and markups; impose mandatory surcharges; purposefully reduce output or sales in order to charge higher prices; or purposefully share or "pool" markets, territories, or customers.

This is not the same scenario as the Sevens.

With this event, it was not obvious that it was going to sell out beforehand.
There was plenty of time for people to get their own tickets (yes, even those who waited for the away result had five days)

I can't believe many people bought tickets with the intention of profiteering.
This is why there are only a handful of tickets for sale on TradeMe.

There's probably only one or two scalpers, and they only have a handful of tickets each.
It looks like around 0.1% of the stadium capacity is being scalped; hardly worth getting up in arms about.

Besides which there may still be other ways to get tickets - e.g. that bus deal from the Kapiti, or in the extra seats in the entrance aisles (if these go ahead).

Hmm - a bit of a stretch there though El G. The phrase you bold in that context is related to where the producer of the goods purposefully reduces output.

if they are scalper c**ts you can always create a fake account etc and bid on them.......people do it all the time. 

Oh, my comments were related to the general practice of scalping rather than this particular situation.

While it is a somewhat of a grey area, the basic idea behind genuine scalping is to withdraw the product from retailing at a certain price in order to drive up the price and maximise the profit. Now, it's grey because this is not done by the producers of the product, but the basic principle is there.

But I doubt that it applies to this particular situation.

http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2009/10/17/in-defence-of-the-scalper/


Arsenal2009-10-21 18:16:47

I might sell Feverish's ten.  That's good money.

Presumably 'true' football fans (whatever that means) would have a relatively high willingness to pay to attend the event and hence would express this through their bidding behaviour. 

Worst link ever. Prepubescent ACToid/libertarian creaming over people exhibiting the worst aspects of the market in action. Let's not even mention the munter's avatar.

ticket scalping should be made a proper law so people won't action this practice in future, perhaps a petition? 98united992009-10-22 06:13:37

I know its hard for those who want to go to the game , but if nobody bidded for the tickets it would be a clear message for these P#*@KS  that we do not tolerate the actions for these W@#NKERS.

Storm in a tea cup though isn't it? This game has not attracted a large scalping rate - simply because the "scalping industry" did not expect it to sell out.

SiNZ2009-10-22 09:33:09