can All Whites continue to play friendlies in 2010

can All Whites continue to play friendlies in 2010

whether results of World Cup play-offs ?
like in 2006

I'm guessing that they would try and play a few teams who want world cup warm up games. It might be hard to get a large amount of games, however.

If we do badly this year with our warmups and then lose the Asian playoff qualifiers I reckon we will be lucky to see one game from the All whites in 2010. Like in 2005. One friendly against Australia was our only game for about 18 months.  :(

What would there be to play for?

I would like to see NZF post world cup try and jump ship to Asia. 

We would very quickly see where we really stand on the world football stage.  As things stand after the home and away matches there is nothing of worf for a long time at senior mens level. 

Hopefully the Women's teams and the youth gain more exposure and experience because of this. disco_mart2009-04-10 22:54:28

the good things about tournaments like the Confeds cup is you can establish good relationships with countries. If we do well enough we might be invited by the likes of South Africa etc. to play them again. and from these relationships with countries you can then set up agreements to have a match every year or every second year or whatever. thats what NZ football should be working on,

On a related matter,
Would there be any merits to a yearly series including NZ that coincides with the weeks approaching the Confederations Cup or World Cup?( in the years those tournaments are held)... an opportunity for the All Whites to get quality friendly games regularly.
For instance, a Tri-Nations plus-one-other-team Tournament  featuring NZ ,Australia,South Africa, and either the CONCACAF or UEFA Champions each year.

I know NZ was invited to play in a few friendly comps, The tiger cup was one (Now known as ASEAN Football Championship). It comes down to cash $$$.
After this year is out - don't expect to see any games from the AW soon, I'm sure they will have another 2 year exodus before dusting them self off for the OFC 2014 World Cup games.

No - this is not rugby that SA and Oz have to look to us to provide meaningful opposition. Both the Aficans and Ockers have plenty of games against good opposition in strong and traditional competitions, so don't really need a meaningless and difficult to organise tournament involving NZ.

I suspected as much  El Grapadura.
No doubt these things have been explored by those more knowledgable than I.
What other possibilities are there for more regular quality games for the All Whites?
Perhaps possible links along Commonwealth Nations Lines.
Are there historical links that can be explored with other nations to form new series in much the same way as Australia and Turkey have established for the Anzac Under 17 game this year?

If we were to think along those lines, I'd say SE Asia would be our best bet. Indonesia, Thailand, Malaysia, Singapore, Vietnam. That kind of thing.

Ooops, It believe we should be thinking a bit more positive. My above comment was subconsciously sort of Anti AW's in thinking we wont make it to the 2010 WC . So If the AW's Qualify then i would expect at least 1 or 2 (high profile) friendly's at home every year.
Unless or otherwise we fail then its back to 2 years of cumbersome. convict2009-06-03 18:27:15

It's probably our best bet.

I think that if we are able to save up had a five game tour of asia every year we would gain some understanding of the climate and to help prepare for the 5th placed Asia team every World Cup. If we are able to have more SE Asia tours and a short tour to South America or West Asia then it would be the best thing for us.

Again it comes down to money.$$$.

If NZF were to generate a series involving a few of these countries perhaps they should consider a joint approach with government, NZ Trade and Industry and key businesses and corporates interested in establishing relationships in the SE Asia area.
This way they may be more likely to source government assistance through trade and cultural exchange channels plus the exposure and goodwill generated might also attract sponsorship opportunities from the corporates involved.

I remember a similar approach being adopted by (I think it was the FFA) and Aussie state governments recently with  A-League teams playing in AFC matches.

good to think in the positive frame of mind and I am sure that New Zealand Football are thinking along these lines. Just the finance and money problems New Zealand Football has which is obvious really draws us back as a footballing nation.

There may be merit in looking to play "B-internationals" with Australia more regularly.  Neither of us wants to pay to get our European players back, but both are looking for competitive hit outs for other squad members.  Not likely to draw much of a crowd but also not likely to cost heaps.

yeah id like to see nz play aussie more often, the last time was when? 2005? brockie got a great goal?

I always wonder what the costs must be to get overseas players to play internationals. I was talking to a friend of mine discussing how little the all whites play compared to other small/less mainstream sports in NZ. Take hockey for example, players get more than 100 caps regularly (some over 200) and have already played 17 games this year. Most are in tournament situations, but still halfway through the year and 17 games and tours to India and Malaysia.

The more games the better IMO

Problem being there's no way Aussie want to play NZ more often

I am in the junior NZ hockey squad and I would like to reply to this point made about the hockey teams playing compared to footballers. yea sure footballers get payed a million times more than hockey players but one thing NZ Hockey does really well is organises tours. Each year the Junior BlackSTicks (16 year olds) travel to the Netherlands, Germany, india to play numerous games. So by the time they are full internationals they have the experience already. Why couldnt NZ Football do something like this with their youth teams and they should make more of an effort to do it with the all whites as well. Im sure it cant be all about money because NZ Football would have a lot more coin than NZ Hockey.

Hockey is well looked after by SPARC.Mens Hockey are one of their elite funded sports. Womens hockey was but has dropped off (and Wimmns footy added).

More support whats this coming to Aussies cheering for the Kiwis ... as with the first story some input from you guys would be welcome.... BTW this is not the Brisbane Roar site .. it is an independent online newspaper http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/06/14/forget-the-trans-tasman-rivalry-we-need-to-support-the-kiwis/

perhaps FFA will let Phoenix reschedule closest game/s to enable friendlies to be played, in the same way Adelaide got opportunity last year at World Club Champs?
Of course doesn't help Smeltz, Brockie.etc
RedGed2009-06-15 13:38:46

We start using loan players for a couple of weeks during that time at the phoenix and it is in a FIFA international window as well. So some of the more local players are trained earlier and then the overseas players arrive at least 48 hours before the friendly match.

International windows before the WCQ playoffs:

Fixed date for international friendly is 12th August

Fixed date for official competition matches 05-09 September

Fixed date for official competition matches 24th September - 16th October

*you can replace an official competition match for an international friendly but the avalibility for players from club is at least 48 hour before match and released back to club 24 hours locally or 48 hour for a club in another confederation as it would for an friendly international. (Not 3/4 days before in international tournament and 24/48 hours after or 14 days before in an international finals tournament or 10 day after.

BTW Adelaide did not get that opportunity from FFA last year, they asked about, but it was denied.