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over 3 years ago
morgenstern12
Clearly there is much more pressure on the Matildas to do well in the world cup than the football ferns.
Indeed - the difference in attitude from the fans is significant. It's an area we're really behind Australia in. They're really into supporting the Matildas and a lot are genuinely angry/upset after all these defeats they're getting and calling for Tony Gustavsson to go. And in fact know the players well. 

Maybe I'm generalising here but it honestly seems like the majority of football fans in NZ don't give a hoot about the Ferns. It's only really on forums like this that I see any genuine critique, on the Ferns social pages it's mostly just 10ish comments like "amazing girls" or "well done another win" or "unlucky you did us proud" etc. 

Not saying that being negative is better (it's not) but again a generalisation, I guess it seems like Aussies care about the Matildas and Kiwis just aren't very interested in the Ferns. Hence the level of scrutiny is levels greater. 
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over 3 years ago
lthomas20
morgenstern12
Clearly there is much more pressure on the Matildas to do well in the world cup than the football ferns.
Indeed - the difference in attitude from the fans is significant. It's an area we're really behind Australia in. They're really into supporting the Matildas and a lot are genuinely angry/upset after all these defeats they're getting and calling for Tony Gustavsson to go. And in fact know the players well. 

Maybe I'm generalising here but it honestly seems like the majority of football fans in NZ don't give a hoot about the Ferns. It's only really on forums like this that I see any genuine critique, on the Ferns social pages it's mostly just 10ish comments like "amazing girls" or "well done another win" or "unlucky you did us proud" etc. 

Not saying that being negative is better (it's not) but again a generalisation, I guess it seems like Aussies care about the Matildas and Kiwis just aren't very interested in the Ferns. Hence the level of scrutiny is levels greater. 
 maybe because the ferns never schedule friendlies at home
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over 3 years ago · edited over 3 years ago · History
morgenstern12
lthomas20
morgenstern12
Clearly there is much more pressure on the Matildas to do well in the world cup than the football ferns.
Indeed - the difference in attitude from the fans is significant. It's an area we're really behind Australia in. They're really into supporting the Matildas and a lot are genuinely angry/upset after all these defeats they're getting and calling for Tony Gustavsson to go. And in fact know the players well. 

Maybe I'm generalising here but it honestly seems like the majority of football fans in NZ don't give a hoot about the Ferns. It's only really on forums like this that I see any genuine critique, on the Ferns social pages it's mostly just 10ish comments like "amazing girls" or "well done another win" or "unlucky you did us proud" etc. 

Not saying that being negative is better (it's not) but again a generalisation, I guess it seems like Aussies care about the Matildas and Kiwis just aren't very interested in the Ferns. Hence the level of scrutiny is levels greater. 
 maybe because the ferns never schedule friendlies at home

This is a very big reason why the interest levels would seem much higher in Aussie. As  a random guess the Matildas have played 15-20 games at home since Ferns hosted Japan. Many profile high teams like USA and Canada

It’s night verus day re marketing your team before a home World Cup. At least Pragnell seems to be trying to bring games to NZ for Ferns and AWs. But NZF just lacks the financial resources of FA re bringing teams downunder esp now the AWs have failed to make Qatar with its $16M (about that from memory) pay cheque

But hopefully a few nations will want to visit NZ prior WWC to check out the facilities etc.

Also many of the Matildas like Sam Kerr started their pro careers in the ALW. None of the Ferns started their pro careers in NZ, very few in the ALW. Most left NZ as teenagers, some like Riley & Stott have never even lived in NZ - so their profile is naturally lower compared to a Kerr (a genuine world class star in her own right)
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over 3 years ago

Figured crossed the ferns will play at home in the November window especially after the draw
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over 3 years ago
coochiee
morgenstern12
lthomas20
morgenstern12
Clearly there is much more pressure on the Matildas to do well in the world cup than the football ferns.
Indeed - the difference in attitude from the fans is significant. It's an area we're really behind Australia in. They're really into supporting the Matildas and a lot are genuinely angry/upset after all these defeats they're getting and calling for Tony Gustavsson to go. And in fact know the players well. 

Maybe I'm generalising here but it honestly seems like the majority of football fans in NZ don't give a hoot about the Ferns. It's only really on forums like this that I see any genuine critique, on the Ferns social pages it's mostly just 10ish comments like "amazing girls" or "well done another win" or "unlucky you did us proud" etc. 

Not saying that being negative is better (it's not) but again a generalisation, I guess it seems like Aussies care about the Matildas and Kiwis just aren't very interested in the Ferns. Hence the level of scrutiny is levels greater. 
 maybe because the ferns never schedule friendlies at home

This is a very big reason why the interest levels would seem much higher in Aussie. As  a random guess the Matildas have played 15-20 games at home since Ferns hosted Japan. Many profile high teams like USA and Canada

It’s night verus day re marketing your team before a home World Cup. At least Pragnell seems to be trying to bring games to NZ for Ferns and AWs. But NZF just lacks the financial resources of FA re bringing teams downunder esp now the AWs have failed to make Qatar with its $16M (about that from memory) pay cheque

But hopefully a few nations will want to visit NZ prior WWC to check out the facilities etc.

Also many of the Matildas like Sam Kerr started their pro careers in the ALW. None of the Ferns started their pro careers in NZ, very few in the ALW. Most left NZ as teenagers, some like Riley & Stott have never even lived in NZ - so their profile is naturally lower compared to a Kerr (a genuine world class star in her own right)
It's sad. But hopefully having the home womens world cup will improve that. Makes performing credibly all the more important though...

On another note - Ferns will play two home friendlies games against participating playoff nations when the playoffs happen next February for the 2023 WWC. So that's a positive. 
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over 3 years ago
Just looked it up - 37 (soon to be 38 when we play Japan) neutral/away matches for the Ferns since they last played in NZ. That's wild. Makes you wonder why neither of the Australia games this year were played here? Missed opportunity perhaps. 
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lthomas20
Just looked it up - 37 (soon to be 38 when we play Japan) neutral/away matches for the Ferns since they last played in NZ. That's wild. Makes you wonder why neither of the Australia games this year were played here? Missed opportunity perhaps. 

Probably because FA offered to cover all the costs of the 2 games, or something similar. NZF is mostly at the beggars table
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coochiee
lthomas20
Just looked it up - 37 (soon to be 38 when we play Japan) neutral/away matches for the Ferns since they last played in NZ. That's wild. Makes you wonder why neither of the Australia games this year were played here? Missed opportunity perhaps. 

Probably because FA offered to cover all the costs of the 2 games, or something similar. NZF is mostly at the beggars table

Surely the costs of bringing a women's team down from Asia is significantly cheaper then a men's team who all expect the 5* treatment.  

As we saw from the last two games, facilities at home are better then what the Ferns often use/play on overseas.  

It's time NZF grew a pair and start promoting the Ferns the same way NZR does with women's rugby.
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over 3 years ago
Is anyone going to this game in japan?  Trying to work out where is best to sit 

Calling all fans in Japan, come down and support the mighty nix in Osaka

http://www.facebook.com/WellingtonPhoenixClubMembersSupportersGroupOsaka

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over 3 years ago · edited over 3 years ago · History
Scratch that, we are A1 haha
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over 3 years ago
coochiee

Remember watching a few of these girls at the under 20 wwc in 2012 in Japan (sadly a 4-0 loss to mexico after being 0-0 at half time)  
got my tickets to the nagano game so will be good to see them play again

Calling all fans in Japan, come down and support the mighty nix in Osaka

http://www.facebook.com/WellingtonPhoenixClubMembersSupportersGroupOsaka

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over 3 years ago · edited over 3 years ago · History
What's with Erceg? Unavailable again?

Has only played 2 games for the Ferns (She Believes Cup in March) since Klimkova became coach.
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over 3 years ago
I see Japan have a friendly game against Nigeria 3 days before the Ferns take them on.
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over 3 years ago
https://theniche-cache.com/football/2022/10/1/football-ferns-vs-japan-squad-yarns-amp-preview

Where is Abby Erceg? In North Carolina as per usual. The frustrating thing about this situation isn’t so much that she tends not to be available for friendly games any more as it is the near-complete lack of clarity about it. Even in her presser, Klimková expressed an initial desire to talk about other players instead. But she did go on to explain the state of affairs better than anyone else has for a while, so that was helpful.

Erceg, same as with eight of the last ten squads, has remained at home in America to focus on her club team. In fairness, that’s never been more pertinent (on the field at least) than right now with the playoffs imminent. But she hasn’t retired from international football. JK still has a place for her in these squads and intends to have a longer chat with Abby after this tour.

Basically, she’s doing what Trent Boult is doing with the Blackcaps. After 146 international caps, a large chunk of them as captain, if anyone has earned the ability to do that then it’s Abby Erceg... it’d just be nice is NZF were forthcoming about it rather than hiding behind phrases like ‘personal reasons’ and ‘unavailable for selection’. As long as she plays the World Cup next year then nobody’s arguing. Just be honest, you know?


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over 3 years ago · edited over 3 years ago · History
Great news for ChCh football fans.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/women-in-sport/130076537/football-ferns-to-play-two-games-against-south-korea-in-christchurch-in-november

The Christchurch series marks the first of a number of home games the Ferns will play in the next six months, as preparations ramp up for the home World Cup next year, with the side also confirmed to play three games in Auckland and Hamilton during the Fifa Women’s World Cup Play-Off Tournament.

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over 3 years ago
Exciting - might see if I can make it from Dunedin!
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over 3 years ago
Japan beat Nigeria 2-0 overnight. Both goals in the second half.
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over 3 years ago
coochiee
What's with Erceg? Unavailable again?

Has only played 2 games for the Ferns (She Believes Cup in March) since Klimkova became coach.

She clearly thinks she's bigger then the team so it's time to drop her permanently I think.
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over 3 years ago
I really hope Naylor is there to make up numbers and help with shooting practice and nothing more. The other two keepers are far beyond her now and should be fighting for that first choice role.
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over 3 years ago · edited over 3 years ago · History
https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/women-in-sport/130111759/another-win-and-more-ice-cream-a-tough-ask-for-football-ferns-against-japan

First, however, comes their 37th match in a row away from home, where they will be looking to turn in a credible performance, playing predominantly on the counter.

Forwards Jacqui Hand and Gabi Rennie have been ruled out due to injury and Covid-19 respectively, but Grace Jale and Hannah Wilkinson have returned to the fold after missing the September matches due to Covid-19.

Wilkinson should come straight back into the starting XI, especially with Hand and Rennie absent, but the makeup of the rest of the Ferns’ front four is surrounded in intrigue.

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over 3 years ago
Holy damn, Wilkenson is shark.
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over 3 years ago
Japan score in 44th min.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/women-in-sport/300706801/live-football-ferns-vs-japan--womens-football-international

Miyazawa bags the opener!! Endo receives the final end of a one two at the top of the box, before slotting a through ball in behind Moore. Miyazawa gets on the end of it at the far post, where she remains composed and slots it low into the far corner. Esson was caught way off her line there.
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over 3 years ago
Monto
Holy damn, Wilkenson is shark.

turns like the titanic, can't hold the ball, can't pass...... slow as fudge

Queenslander 3x a year.

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over 3 years ago
This team is shark, its gonna be an absolute embarrassment at the world cup. Surely the coach must go? There has been no improvement the entire time she's been in charge. Surely getting absolutely annihilated at home next year would do more harm to women's football then good.
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over 3 years ago
Rubbish commentary as per 

Founder

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over 3 years ago
Feverish
Rubbish commentary as per 
Yeah it's pretty abysmal
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over 3 years ago
Monto
Holy damn, Wilkenson is shark.

Scores for fun in the ALW (which will be an indicator of the league's strength), and still the best striker the Ferns have.

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over 3 years ago
Taylor has looked a cut above in the passing department since she's come on. Good to see 
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over 3 years ago
Monto
Taylor has looked a cut above in the passing department since she's come on. Good to see 
Really? Didnt think she did much to be fair
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over 3 years ago
I simply mean that most of her passes actually went to another teammate. Same couldn't be said of others.
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