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GK Back up

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over 12 years ago

Now Mark Paston has hung up the gloves Glen Moss is now our first choice goalkeeper, and by some distance! What worries me is who do we call upon should Moss be unavailable?

Poor old Glen has had a few injury problems over the years and I do not see a lot of quality behind him in reserve. 

Gleeson didn't really shine in the ONC last year while Spoonley and Williams lack international experience. Basalaj is doing ok in Scotland but nowhere near the first team at the moment while it's too early to assess Crocombe's international credentials yet. 

Who else is coming through? (If we play some friendlies) I'd like to see some of the others get some game time to give them the experience to be able to be called upon should Moss be out injured. Anyone to look out for? 



English based All Whites fan! Would love to watch an All White game one day.  

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over 12 years ago · edited over 12 years ago · History

Michael O'Keefe is usually mentioned as one of our best - NZ keeper at the London Olympics last year where he did okay generally (apart from one howler): 

Currently playing for Ocean City Nor'Easters (New Jersey) in the Premier Development League (fourth tier) in the USA in his first season after graduating from Fairfield University, USA where he was a highly-rated keeper: 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_O'Keeffe

The Premier Development League is mostly an u-23 comp (only 8 players in a 26 man squad may be over 23) and produces many future professionals and internationals.

July: Ocean City Nor'easters win Eastern Conference Title

PDL National Championship Playoffs: Friday August 2nd AWAY Austin Aztex - Nor'easters 0-1 Austin Aztex

O'Keefe: Nine games played

One of three candidates for the team's defensive MVP 2013; one of four candidates for overall MVP

http://www.oceancityfc.com/oceancityfcpdl/715439.html

Mike O’Keeffe (U23 New Zealand National Team & Fairfield) – O’Keeffe is a 6-1 goalkeeper, hailing from Christchurch, New Zealand, who has established himself as the Fairfield number 1 going into his senior year. He was the MAAC Defensive Player of the Year in 2011. O’Keeffe gained international experience as a member of the New Zealand Under-15 and Under-17 squads. He also played for New Zealand’s Under-17 World Cup team, and served his teammates as a captain during his stay with the team. Number one for the New Zealand Olympic side, London, 2012 (three appearances).

Coach Tim -“Mike is a proven and established GK at both the collegiate and international level with New Zealand.  He excels in all areas from that position- shot stopping, distribution, communication, and dealing with service. He is hoping to use this final season post graduation at the PDL level to position himself with some opportunities to play at the next level.”


Big Pete 65, Christchurch

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over 12 years ago

Michael is from Marlborough.

Kotahitanga. We are one.

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over 12 years ago

Marinovic. End of.

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over 12 years ago
Big Pete 65 wrote:

Michael O'Keefe is usually mentioned as one of our best - NZ keeper at the London Olympics last year where he did okay generally (apart from one howler):

Still looking for a club in the UK, hopefully he can find one soon.
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over 12 years ago

What is Marinovic doing?

Their is not a bad list of names Spoonley, Marinovic, O'Keefe, Gleeson, Williams, Basalaj

Grumpy old bastard alert

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over 12 years ago

Recently transfered to 1860 Munich. Playing for reserves in 5th or 6th tier


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over 12 years ago

4th rather


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over 12 years ago
Global Game wrote:

Michael is from Marlborough.

Michael O'Keefe was born in Christchurch, moved to Marlborough and returned to Christchurch as a teenager and went to Christchurch Boys High, playing for them &Christchurch club Avon United.
Followed by a couple of seasons of NZ Football Championship for Canterbury United - including one season as first choice at age 17/18.

Big Pete 65, Christchurch

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over 12 years ago · edited over 12 years ago · History
Big Pete 65 wrote:
Global Game wrote:

Michael is from Marlborough.

Michael O'Keefe was born in Christchurch, moved to Marlborough and returned to Christchurch as a teenager and went to Christchurch Boys High, playing for them &Christchurch club Avon United.

Followed by a couple of seasons of NZ Football Championship for Canterbury United - including one season as first choice at age 17/18.


He also played for another Chch club.
His parents told me he was from Marlborough.

Kotahitanga. We are one.

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over 12 years ago · edited over 12 years ago · History
TV wrote:

Recently transfered to 1860 Munich. Playing for reserves in 5th or 6th tier

According to tranfermarkt.com, only signed on 15 November. So maybe no appearances yet.
 

Really good he found a decent club - 1860 Munich, the second biggest club in Munich who share Bayern's home ground, the Alianz Arena (cap. 71,000). In Bundesliga 2 since 2004 but mostly a Bundesliga 1 club before that. Even playing for the reserves is a good gig for him - in the shop window more than the smaller clubs he was with and never got game time for.

However, they have seven goalies on the reserve team's roster, so his opportunities may be limited.

Champions League side a decade ago.

1860 Munich first team: Avg home attendance 2012-13: 22,682

First choice goalie Gabor Kiraly is a 90 cap Hungary international & ex- Crystal Palace, Burnley & Hertha Berlin keeper.

Aussies Ned Zelic and Paul Agostino played for them a decade ago (Agostino: 248 apps, 77 goals; Zelic: 102 apps, 3 goals)


1860 Munich II Reserve Teamhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TSV_1860_M%C3%BCnchen_II

http://int.soccerway.com/teams/germany/tsv-1860-munchen-ii/

Functions as the club's u-23 side. Almost qualified for Div.3.Bundesliga last season (national third tier)

Champions of their regional league last season: "The club enjoyed a very successful 2012–13 season, now in the Regionalliga Bayern, where it won the league championship and qualified for the play-offs to the 3. Liga but missed out on promotion when it lost to SV Elversberg 3-4 on aggregate."

Currently third in the league behind leaders Bayern Munich II. Bundesliga Div. 1 sides Nurnberg and Augsburg also field reserve teams in the league. 

First choice goalie for 1860 Munich II this season has been first team number two Michael Netolitsky (age 29)

One of the star players is 21 year-old current US international striker Bobby Wood (makes a few apps every season for the first team).

Stefan Marinovic on the TSV 1860 Munich club website:

http://translate.google.co.nz/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://www.tsv1860.de/teams/u21/spieler/2013-2014/stefan-marinovic-248/lebenslauf&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dstefan%2Bmarinovic%2B1860%2Bmunich%2BII%26start%3D20%26sa%3DN%26rlz%3D1C1AFAB_enNZ468NZ468%26espv%3D210%26es_sm%3D93%26biw%3D1366%26bih%3D666

Complete official reserve team roster (called "u-21's" but is clearly misleading): one of seven goalkeepers!!!

http://www.tsv1860.de/teams/u21

Big Pete 65, Christchurch

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over 12 years ago
Jeff Vader wrote:

What is Marinovic doing?

Their is not a bad list of names Spoonley, Marinovic, O'Keefe, Gleeson, Williams, Basalaj


Still playing at a higher level then the mod golden boy O'Keefe

Auckland will rise once more

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over 12 years ago

Technically I'm playing at a higher level than O'Keefe right now.

Based on recent All Whites and Olympic squads, the top 6 in no particular order are: Moss, Spoonley, Williams, Gleeson, O'Keefe and Basalaj.

At present, based on what I have seen as all six,  I'd go in order: Moss, Gleeson, O'Keefe, Spoonley, Basalaj, Williams

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over 12 years ago

Gleesons howler in honiara isnt forgetten

Harsh on Spoons

Moss Spoonley O'Keefe Gleeson Basalaj Williams


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over 12 years ago
Moss, Gleeson, Stefan, Spoonley. Don't think we need to go past that four



Auckland will rise once more

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over 12 years ago
TV wrote:

Gleesons howler in honiara isnt forgetten

Harsh on Spoons

Moss Spoonley O'Keefe Gleeson Basalaj Williams

Every keeper has a howler. The question is how often and in what games.
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over 12 years ago
2ndBest wrote:

Technically I'm playing at a higher level than O'Keefe right now.

Based on recent All Whites and Olympic squads, the top 6 in no particular order are: Moss, Spoonley, Williams, Gleeson, O'Keefe and Basalaj.

At present, based on what I have seen as all six,  I'd go in order: Moss, Gleeson, O'Keefe, Spoonley, Basalaj, Williams

As an objective question, when was the last time you saw all those play. I have not seen Gleeson since Honiara or O'Keefe since.... Basalaj was on TV and was pants but the word was he improved over the season.
Spoonley has come in for the Phoenix twice and done the job well. Hence the question because it does seem harsh as TV points out.

Grumpy old bastard alert

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over 12 years ago · edited over 12 years ago · History

Might have been a bit hard on Spoons. Always looked a bit shaky at ASBP when I saw him play, but looks like he's improved since being with Nix. 

Quite hard to judge the guys overseas and how they might have improved over the last year. So have probably extropralted a little bit. 

Over the past 2 years think I've seen these guys in this environment:

Moss - Nix, All Whites
Gleeson - All Whites, Odd highlights package from Timbers
O'Keefe - Olympics, Miramar
Spoonley - ASBP, Nix
Basalaj - Junior AWs, Central League, Team Welly
Williams - One game v Nix


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over 12 years ago
2ndBest wrote:

Technically I'm playing at a higher level than O'Keefe right now.

Based on recent All Whites and Olympic squads, the top 6 in no particular order are: Moss, Spoonley, Williams, Gleeson, O'Keefe and Basalaj.

At present, based on what I have seen as all six,  I'd go in order: Moss, Gleeson, O'Keefe, Spoonley, Basalaj, Williams

Probably a good selection. Some talent there - but it's a shame we only have one keeper who plays regularly as a professional.
Hard to compare the others behind Moss since Williams is an amateur playing ASB level and the others are reserve/youth players at pro clubs - or first choice in an amateur development league in the US (O'Keefe). 
Gleeson is now only third choice at the Timbers in MLS and never gets a game.
Basalaj a reserve team regular at Partick.
Others not on your list who are on the books at pro clubs: 
Max Crocombe (second choice at League Two leaders Oxford United; first choice for the reserve u-21 side). Had a disastrous time for the NZ u-20's in Turkey bur still rated by his club. Younger than the keepers named above - just turned 20. Recent reserve team match report: http://www.oufc.co.uk/news/article/00051113-development-1156923.aspx Has been on the bench for the first team the last six weeks.
Stefan Marinovic - rated enough by one of the larger German second tier clubs 1860 Munich to sign him for their reserve / u-23 side. But then again, one of seven keepers on the roster of the reserve side...Played well for the NZ u-20's in the 2011 FIFA u-20 World Cup in Colombia. Getting games for the 1860 Munich reserve team will mean they rate him - otherwise will continue his history in Germany of not getting game time as previously with smaller clubs over there.


Big Pete 65, Christchurch

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over 12 years ago

Still can't figure out how Williams ever broke into the AW set up.

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over 12 years ago

Spoonley number two for me. Who was the other NZ goalkeeper on the books of Phoenix during the September international window?

English based All Whites fan! Would love to watch an All White game one day.  

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over 12 years ago
UK_ALLWHITE wrote:

Spoonley number two for me. Who was the other NZ goalkeeper on the books of Phoenix during the September international window?

Yeah i agree with Spoonley as our No2. However i think when looking at keepers as we build for Russia 2018, The other names need to be expected/excepted as the guys who will be No1 - 2 or 3 taking in the fact Moss gets injured a lot.
If Moss and Spoonley aren't there in 4 years time, Then we need to test these young guys out.


Mr Positive

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