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Is this the future for getting footy on tv in NZ?

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Is this the future for getting footy on tv in NZ?
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
sweeeeeeeet
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Awesome. Gutted that Triangle stopped broadcasting free in Wellington recently.
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I turned over to Stratos on sky and jesus they could do with the football on there. I think the ratings for that channel would go up like 20000% from showing it . win for us win for Stratos 
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Does this include NZFC or just O-League?

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
It says Oceania comps so I would think not.  Looks to be O-League and various Oceania international comps.

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Keep a close eye on www.ziln.co.nz

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It was alway a consideration for a very long time by the OFC about TV coverage for O-league.

However NZFC is another factor all together. It is surmised that the coverage of the two top NZFC teams performing with credit would make way for open doors for the likeihood that NZ sponsors would consider advertising products/service to a different audience. Whenever a NZFC team in the O-league would play, it builds up a core group of sponsors that would consider expanding their advertising to a slightly more affluent audience in NZ included along with the islands that would have a population volume but not necessary the cash volume. So the flow on effects from match coverage is the advertising coverage for sponsors and then if things pick up, a coverage of the NZFC may occur sometime in the near future if marketing business research can demonstrate the positive possibility.

Anyone up for a business Phd to assess the flow on effects of TV marketing coverage of a "minor" sport?
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You miss an important point though.  I'm sure the people who know the potential financial impacts understand all of this better than us and I'm sure it's been studied but the reality is that a broadcaster has to be willing to do it at a price the owner of the rights can afford.

Unlike the A-League or other leagues no New Zealand media outlet is going to stump up dollars for the rights to show the NZFC, in fact somewhat disturbingly SKY demand that New Zealand Football pay them to show it... which considering they then go and hand other sports huge piles of cash to show their sport effectively means that NZ Football would have to spend money (which we know they have precious little of) that SKY would then hand to SANZAR.

Even before then though NZ Football have to make a decision on whether that money is better spent getting the game on Television for a VERY small minority of viewers (that would grow) or leave resources in some other area that is important to the development of the game and individuals.

If it comes down to either paying the NZRFU to put the NZFC on telly or running a national womens league then the priority really isn't TV coverage.

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I think the only way to do it would be for NZF or the NZFC clubs to go to Sky along with a group of advertisers who were willing to advertise during NZFC programming.  Only then might you get a situatuin where there is a return for the governing body on television coverage.
 
NZF doesn't have a player number problem or a fan problem - it has a money problem. 

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You know what JD I actually think it simply has a "lack of support in high places" problem.
 
This will change with time.

Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.

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Or put the phoenix reserves in the NZFC to lift its profile,and maybe even get some TV coverage since cameras will be at the ground anyway. but hey... Tegal2009-09-23 10:21:09

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james dean wrote:
I think the only way to do it would be for NZF or the NZFC clubs to go to Sky along with a group of advertisers who were willing to advertise during NZFC programming.  Only then might you get a situatuin where there is a return for the governing body on television coverage.
 
NZF doesn't have a player number problem or a fan problem - it has a money problem. 
 
 
Go to SKY....you mug ...the only games sky cares about are Ruckby  (viewer nos ) and baseball ..(chairmans favourite ) go to Maori and youd get a far better reception ...free to air is the way to get the nos,... let the rest demand pay  per view lets get the great unwashed on side....
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ive never actually agreed with that though. To me,putting your product on free to air or more specifically maori tv,portrays it as an inferior product. People tend to either forget to watch it,or just not bother.
 
It most definetly happened to basketball.

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Tegal wrote:
ive never actually agreed with that though. To me,putting your product on free to air or more specifically maori tv,portrays it as an inferior product. People tend to either forget to watch it,or just not bother.
 
It most definetly happened to basketball.
an inferior product....never!! the thronging crowds and news crews at every home game , the superb coverage and promotion , no sir, your right ....we should never go down that road !
 
(Im not even going to touch your vision of Maori = inferior )
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Haha dont go all race card on me. i didnt say maori was inferior i said the perception is that by putting something on free to air as opposed to skytv,it is seen as inferior product to people.
 
Your saying news crews,coverage and promotion is better than none is something i agree with,but your original argument was that you would prefer it be on maori tv (free to air),rather than skytv,so i put my view against that. Of course some coverage is better than none,but skytv coverage is better than free to air coverage in my opinion.
 
The only reason i mentioned maori tv,was because basketball had a big boom when it was on sky,it got transferred to maori tv,and people lost interest. i honestly believe this to be true (though have no figures to back it up). To the neutral,if they see something on a free to air channel,they will percieve it as being an inferior product (the sport,not the quality of the coverage itself).
 
Sky also has the better show of promoting the games,definetly compared to maori tv,but maybe on par with channels 1 - 3.
 
So please dont be so quick to pull the race card as soon as someone puts something negative with "maori" in the same sentence

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I have heard that Waikato FC have a deal with local channel TV Central, who will be showing this year's games. Hope it's true. Not sure if that means Waikato games only or all NZFC, as in a highlights show or something, but not long to wait to find out.
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same thing down here with canterbury and ctv... or at least it was!
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I remember way back when telstra started their TV service as 'saturn' they had a local sports channel that showed local football games (capital prem etc). It was great,but didnt last long.
 
Local channels rule.

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well telstra are open to people putting custom tv channels on thier service. Wild tv anyone?. it doesnt exist on the sky network, only telstra.
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Tegal wrote:
I remember way back when telstra started their TV service as 'saturn' they had a local sports channel that showed local football games (capital prem etc). It was great,but didnt last long.
 
Local channels rule.
 
I remember watching the local games on Saturn.

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

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Strange that local stations don't share some resources on a national scale e.g. local NZFC games or independent news. So that it increases the quality and the selection of local stuff and that it benefits all the stations. Each station can show there own local teams week to week regards of the opposition and then they each can tailor-made their own highlight show. It's a win-win situation I thought.
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Tegal wrote:
Haha dont go all race card on me. i didnt say maori was inferior i said the perception is that by putting something on free to air as opposed to skytv,it is seen as inferior product to people.
 
Your saying news crews,coverage and promotion is better than none is something i agree with,but your original argument was that you would prefer it be on maori tv (free to air),rather than skytv,so i put my view against that. Of course some coverage is better than none,but skytv coverage is better than free to air coverage in my opinion.
 
The only reason i mentioned maori tv,was because basketball had a big boom when it was on sky,it got transferred to maori tv,and people lost interest. i honestly believe this to be true (though have no figures to back it up). To the neutral,if they see something on a free to air channel,they will percieve it as being an inferior product (the sport,not the quality of the coverage itself).
 
Sky also has the better show of promoting the games,definetly compared to maori tv,but maybe on par with channels 1 - 3.
 
So please dont be so quick to pull the race card as soon as someone puts something negative with "maori" in the same sentence
 
Arguement is moot, as by being on Stratos and Triangle the games will be on the Sky platform (Stratos) and free to air (Triangle). Best of both worlds!
 
Also the only reason basketball would not be on a sky channel is because Sky did not want to show it! Apparently a lot of games sold out last year regardless, so stadium revenues were still high.
 
And by being on Maori channel, basketball is still on sky!
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Strange that local stations don't share some resources on a national scale e.g. local NZFC games or independent news. So that it increases the quality and the selection of local stuff and that it benefits all the stations. Each station can show there own local teams week to week regards of the opposition and then they each can tailor-made their own highlight show. It's a win-win situation I thought.


Interesting possiblity this..Regional tv companies pooling their resources to film NZFC games then footage screened locally and nationally on the likes of Ziln or another Football channel. I would have thought a centrally based highlights package distributed to all regionals would have made more sense and would be better product to attract ad revenue from national sponsors perhaps.

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22:00 Oceania Soccer
found this on triangle tv, game on this saturday delayed at 10pm
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Hang on, so delayed coverage is opposite the Phoenix match ?

What numpty scheduled that ?

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gunners wrote:
22:00 Oceania Soccer
found this on triangle tv, game on this saturday delayed at 10pm
 
 
Defending champions Auckland City FC will get their 2010 O-League campaign underway at home this Saturday when they meet Tahiti�s AS Manu Ura. A full replay of the match at Kiwitea Street will be screened on Triangle at 10pm Saturday with a second replay airing at 12pm on Stratos the following day.
 
For anybody in the Auckland area who wants to receive Freeview (iincluding Stratos/Triangle and SBS (check it out www.sbs.com.au/schedule)) I can put you in touch with a guy who can do the whole install for around $500. No fees after that.
 
P.M. me if you're interested.
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