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Mt Smart 1991 England V All Whites

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Mt Smart 1991 England V All Whites
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Was anyone else there? Ah the memories... 11 at the time loved it..
 
New Zealand 674 03-Jun-1991 New Zealand Mount Smart Stadium, Penrose, Auckland F 1 0 AW
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i was 5 and there apparently, i have a vague recollection. we still have the england hat my dad bought

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Lineker scored at the death didnt he? They played at Athletic Park here. Was friggin freezing

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was at the athletic park game - yep it was nippy
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i was a ball boy at Athletic Park - hundred year storm that day.
 
I was posted at the southern end in a ridiculous southerly gale, so dont think i touched the ball once.
 
main memories are mcgarry intercepting a terrible back pass from either des walker or paul parker and missing golden chance to score, and a mate of mine bluffing his way onto the england bus to get signatures
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I was there, drabbish sort of game, England minus most stars, the likes of Brian Deane, Mark walters, Earl Barrett etc playing. It loooked like a very creditable 0-0 until Lineker scored in about the 94th minute. This was, though, England at their lowest ebb, even worse than the McClaren years.

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TheJam wrote:

I was there, drabbish sort of game, England minus most stars, the likes of Brian Deane, Mark walters, Earl Barrett etc playing. It loooked like a very creditable 0-0 until Lineker scored in about the 94th minute. This was, though, England at their lowest ebb, even worse than the McClaren years.

mal dunford should have scored from a corner in the first half. ref should have blown full time 30 second earlier. ahh, what could have been
 
dont forget, while they werent at full strength (they had that rubbish left winger with the Italian name playing - searching for his name) england were reigning world cup semi final losers (and damn unlucky ones too)
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we wagged the Thursday or Friday afternoon off school and went and watched the England team train at Newtown Park.  Ian Wright took the piss out of our uniform and shoes, and then told us not to bother with school (we were about 14)

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I was there at Athletic Park, my mum made me wear my ski gear and for the first half I got the teams mixed up because (I think) the All Whites were playing in a change strip.  Didn't Seuart Pearce get a fairly handy free kick?

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your lucky it wasn't played at the RoF JD, the the poles might have been under a metre but you can bet they would have confiscated your skis
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Frankie Mac wrote:
we wagged the Thursday or Friday afternoon off school and went and watched the England team train at Newtown Park.  Ian Wright took the piss out of our uniform and shoes, and then told us not to bother with school (we were about 14)
 
yeah I went to Newtown and swarmed round their bus. I'm pretty sure your werent 14 though. Even if you were at school that could still make you 21 considering the amount of extra years you did.

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(they had that rubbish left winger with the Italian name playing - searching for his name

tony dorigo?
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Here is the link to the FA website with the team sheets from the two games...

http://www.thefa.com/England/SeniorTeam/Archive/matchstats.html?m=675
james dean2008-07-16 07:08:05

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In the Wellington game, NZ wore the change strip of all red. It was as far as I know the first and last time they ever played in that strip. and they strenously denied that it had anything to do with the corporate colours of their (at the time) sponsor Winfield.
Bullsh*t, it had everything to do with the sponsor. Talk about a sell-out, especially to a cancer-causing bunch of head-in-the-sand profiteers. I lost a bit more faith in the governing body after that (I'd started to lose it after '82 when they wouldn't reappoint Adshead and Fallon, the worst decision ever made in NZ football).
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It's a change strip 25 years ago man, let it go

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james dean wrote:
It's a change strip 25 years ago man, let it go
 
I have. I stopped losing sleep over it at least two years ago. But still...
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I was with Tawa at the time and we had a Chatham Cup game against Napier the following day, so we drove to Hawke's Bay in the morning and watched the AW's game in our motel rooms, then went to the Happy Tav in Havelock, got absolutely written off and lost 10-0 (that's not a typo - it is TEN) the next day.
 
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I was with Tawa at the time and we had a Chatham Cup game against Napier the following day, so we drove to Hawke's Bay in the morning and watched the AW's game in our motel rooms, then went to the Happy Tav in Havelock, got absolutely written off and lost 10-0 (that's not a typo - it is TEN) the next day.
 
 
same old Tawa..

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In the eyes of an 11 year old kid, seeing Lineker play was amazing. Yup was at the death of the game when he scored. I loved every minute. Doesn't matter how low England were, we still punched above our weight. Losing 1-0 and 2-0 ARE creditable results in my eyes. I did almost cry though as I thought we were in it, for the only time I became that emotional over a football match til I scored a goal for the first time in 5 years last Saturday

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Just saw Crowd stats too - 17500 for Akl, 12000 for Wgtn. Pretty handy attendance..
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I remember watching the match on telly.

I read an interview with McGarry a few years later, where he mentioned that moment. If I remember correctly, he said that when he got the ball and looked up, he thought "Brilliant, I am gonna score against England!", and from there it all went horribly wrong.

He is still playing in Dunedin, and is still more than handy.
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Wasn't the Wellington game played in gale-force conditions? I watched it on TV and seem to remember Grant Schofield having all sorts of problems with his kicking during one half.
On Mike McGarry, he could have made it in Europe but didn't want to go. He enjoyed teaching too much. Apparently a couple of English clubs enquired about him after the two games but he said he wasn't interested.
I interviewed him a number of times on radio and he was/is such a nice guy.
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The wellington game was really really bad, hence why I was made to wear my ski gear!!
 
I'm sure someone must have video of the two matches they can post on here, would love to see it.  Perhaps the TVNZ archive?

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That's interesting about McGarry. I could never understand how such a fantastic footballer wasn't playing overseas. And it turns out he chose teaching of all things over professional football? Completely bonkers!
 
btw, I went to the Athletic Park game, but I also have a dim memory of seeing an England v NZ game way back in the late 70s, early 80s. Maybe it was England B? Scoreline something like 4-1 to the poms. Anyone know if that memory's for real, or did my psychiatrist plant it there?
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As a teacher I can understand his personal philosophy. It's all about job satisfaction. I guess it was a case of doing a world of good or schleping around the likes of Hartlepool, Rochdale and Exeter City...
I know  I'd've chosen the "schleping" option myself, but then I didn't have the choice...
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TheJam wrote:
As a teacher I can understand his personal philosophy. It's all about job satisfaction. I guess it was a case of doing a world of good or schleping around the likes of Hartlepool, Rochdale and Exeter City...
I know  I'd've chosen the "schleping" option myself, but then I didn't have the choice...
 
OK, well spoken, Mr Chips. The nobility of the profession and all that. But you're right, realistically he probably would have ended up slogging it out in the lower divisions, even though to my mind he was far better than that. If he teaches half as well as he played football then he must have done a lot of kids a lot of good.
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Stopout it was 1978 on June 11 1978 England "B" 3 NZ 1.
Kiwi team was as follows.
Jeram (Davie), Dods, Sibley, Almond, Park, Turner. B,(taylor. D), Cole, Sumner, Elrik (cpt) Nelson, Thomas. E. (stamp sub).
They also played in Aucland on the 7th June and lost 4 nil.  
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I still have a signed ball of the whole England team. Its a bit faded now however. Got it from a friend who was working at the Hotel they were staying at (now the Duxton). I was a stoked young man.
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England B also played two matches in Christchurch as part of that visit.

If I remember correctly, They Played the old Christchurch United (Trans Tours United "TTU" as they were) at QEII in an afternoon match, that for some reason i think was 2-2, but seems a bit unlikely? I was about 10, and me and some others tried to get Viv Anderson's autograph just before kick-off, but while he was friendly enough, the man in the white coat with the clip board chased us off pretty quickly. Never did get the autograph.

They also played NZ in a night game at English Park, and I think the score for that was 5-0 to England B.

In one of the matches, Paul Marriner, who I think had just won the FA cup with Ipswich, got concussed, so missed the other match. Can't remember which match was first- the TTU  or the NZ one.
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Tinmen wrote:
Stopout it was 1978 on June 11 1978 England "B" 3 NZ 1.
Kiwi team was as follows.
Jeram (Davie), Dods, Sibley, Almond, Park, Turner. B,(taylor. D), Cole, Sumner, Elrik (cpt) Nelson, Thomas. E. (stamp sub).
They also played in Aucland on the 7th June and lost 4 nil.  
 
Thanks Tinmen and Shauneboy. Interesting reading that team list. All these years I've been regretting that I never got to see the legendary '82 All Whites in the flesh - turns out I saw at least half of them already, yet I can't remember a damn thing.
 
One other thing: roughly around the same time as the '91 England game NZ played China in a friendly under lights at the Hutt Rec of all places. Maybe some of you were there too. I remember standing right behind the Chinese goal and watching us put a couple past their keeper.
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A-Team wrote:
I still have a signed ball of the whole England team. Its a bit faded now however. Got it from a friend who was working at the Hotel they were staying at (now the Duxton). I was a stoked young man.
 
young? you must have been about 4

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Tinmen wrote:
Stopout it was 1978 on June 11 1978 England "B" 3 NZ 1.
Kiwi team was as follows.
Jeram (Davie), Dods, Sibley, Almond, Park, Turner. B,(taylor. D), Cole, Sumner, Elrik (cpt) Nelson, Thomas. E. (stamp sub).
They also played in Aucland on the 7th June and lost 4 nil.  
 
a few useful players in that lot - I expect  Alf Stamp might have been a bit of handful to coach but he was great to watch
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Alfie was my hero, an effing genius on the ball. Check out my article that covered three issues in Soccer Talk.
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Was at Athletic Park as well - our school laid on a bus from Palmy. Can rememeber all these kids hanging around the tunnel to collect autographs and being pushed back by stewards.
David Platt came up and had a word to one of the stewards and suddenly we were allowed to collect all the autographs we liked- have most of both teams as well as (Sir) Trevor Brooking who was here to commentate.
 
My seats were next to the dugout so thought I had a great chance to get a few more as Keith Curle was pretty much right next to me - yet he snubbed me the whole game. Always knew he was a pr**k!
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I was the liaison person for the England team during their stay in Wellington. Well, as it turned out, I finished up being the Liaison for the 20 officials and hardly got to talk to the players. The day before the game, three of the G & T guys decided they wanted to go out and have a look at a local football club. I remember thinking, Sh*t, this is going to be embarrassing! The three were all members of the F.A. International Committee and chairmen or ex chairmen of their clubs, Liverpool, Blackburn and Birmingham.  I took them to Petone, (always the wipping boys). As it turned out  they were quite impressed and interested in the club structure and depth, given that it was so different to England.
Can say though, that I have been in an England dressing room before and after the game and, do you know, they all put their shorts on the same way as you guys. One leg at a time.
NZ Manager of the day, Ian Marshall. (Gentleman). Big creds to Ian Rodgers for organinsing that visit. Amazing the detail that he had to go into.

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dont forget, while they werent at full strength (they had that rubbish left winger with the Italian name playing - searching for his name)

Tony Dorigo?

Liverpool Arsenal and Spurs were all playing in Japan at the time.

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anyone remember the "young brazil" team that came out? I went to western springs and watched them play the All Whites.  I was two young to worry about holding on the the program and following up to see if any of the players went on to anything special. 
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They played in the Hutt Valley as well. One of three internationals hosted at the Hutt Rec during the days of Hutt Valley United.

Like you I misplaced the programme, but I did get one of their shirts. Just the same as the hundreds of replicas around now though.

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am i right in saying that we are unbeaten at the hutt rec?
 
i remember the young brazil game - they were amazing, but couldn't score and i'm pretty sure we beat them.
 
we beat oz 1-0 in the mud thanks to a classic fred de jong mud slide over the goal line.
 
and i think the china score was 2-0.
 
time to reinstate the hutt rec as an international venue i reckon...

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