Name Change?

The best argument i have heard to change to the black strip is that it is unique in footballing terms. But i do struggle when people say they want them top wear black because they want them to be unique, but also they want them to wear black so there the same as every other New Zealand team. 

The all white kit coincided with the best period in New Zealand's football history.
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What complete bollocks! I could make a compelling argument that it also coincided with the worst period in NZ football history.

I also suspect that you really mean the history of the NZ team since I would have to say the 70's were probably the best period for NZ football overall.

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It created an identity and legacy for the generations to follow and aspire to. The previous 80 years? Did sweet fark all for that.

...and you would know that how?

The psychological edge of wearing black is for us rather not them. Like the Olympic Kayak team of Freg and MacDonald. I haven't really seen any national football teams that wear black so it can have a unique favour to our team.

The psychological edge helps in close scoring games not against the obvious stronger opponents (e.g.Spain) but other teams that are within our scope. NZ has their share of draws that could be wins if they approach the game with a win mentality rather than a lose or draw mentality in my years of observing and I believe the Black colour can make it easier to get that mentality to be honest. No dishing on the All Whites of the past but really we tend to play better in alternative colours.

Classier with Black will polarised the on field thinking. The only downpoint is that referees may tend to award free kicks easier against us because we are wearing black. The colour does bring a psychological factor more into play. Other teams tend to fuss up in fouls but then that serves to help us because the referees tend to get annoyed at teams for make too much fuss and make the vital decisions our way at the death end of the game just because the referee is tired of the other team.

Besides the non-football public that is attending the game wouldn't feel out of place by wearing an All Black rugby top just because they haven't brought an All White soccer top. We would get more people, who are not soccer fans, interested in attending the game if all they have to wear is a black top with a silver fern rather than the vice versa.

I thought it's clearly obvious that I was talking about the national team...

And please enlighten us about those glory days of the New Zealand national football team in the first 80 years of the 20th century...

You can't possibly be serious...

 Every image I've seen of NZ football teams up to 1981 has them in Black tops and white shorts.

I thought it's clearly obvious that I was talking about the national team...

And please enlighten us about those glory days of the New Zealand national football team in the first 80 years of the 20th century...

I love how you insist that white isn't one of the national colours, then post a picture with NZ playing in both black and white



Anyways, at the library now, and the first ever NZ team (1904) wore white tops, black shots and black socks. Same in 1905.

1927-1967 was black tops, white shorts, black socks (same as your post), though NZ wore white/black/black at home in 1948 (this may have been an allowance for the dark-shirted Australian team. I don't know whether or not "home team gets first dibs on kit" was in effect then). 1947 was all black. 1965-66 has a photo at the Basin with white shorts, white socks, and black/white stripes (a la Newcastle's top) against England.

Nothing on the 70's, and everything after 1981 is obvious.

So while black was dominant for at least a forty year period (I can't speak for the 10's or 70's), white was the original. That reason alone doesn't make it more important than the black kit (ie Wellington rep rugby started off in red and blue, yet I see no reason to change from black and gold), but that + 1982 (and for that matter, the amazing efforts of our girls last year - NZ football isn't just the senior mens team).

Both colours have significant places in NZ footballing history - black in quantity, white in quality. Considering all of NZ's signicant success has been in white, and is currently white, and is associated in the general community as white, I'd stick with the status quo but insist our away kits stay black.

TBH I wouldn't mind compromising - reverting to the original & pre-"All Whites" white kit with black shorts and socks, with out alternate being black shirts, white shorts and white/black socks. That way the name All Whites can stay (even if only in an unofficial, White Noise endorsed capacity), more black can be included instead of just as trim, and we avoid having alternate kit colours that aren't official (such as recent blue, or previous reds and greens).

Also, 100% black looks terrible The best All Blacks uniforms were the ones with white collars.

cheers for that Robb. Can you do my essay whilst your there too..

That's it, it is just a nick name to refer to the side, far easier to refer to than the National/New Zealand Football Team.

Something like this Oska?

Great decision from NZ Football to leave it as the All Whites

when we played at the ROF they had us as the Thai (Airways) All Whites. Even using TAW on the scoreboard (until half time anyway after the Fever Zone was chanting 'come on Taiwan')

Maybe we should have it as follows:

Home Strip: All White
Away Strip: All Blue
Tournament or Alternative Strip: All Black

That will confuse them.

Fever zone chanting "Come on Taiwan?" Thai is short for Thailand not Taiwan. That is funny.

Imagine when we play Thailand, it would be totally confusing.

We would have to chant "We are the real Thailand"

Maybe we should have it as follows:

Home Strip: All White
Away Strip: All Blue
Tournament or Alternative Strip: All Black

That will confuse them.

Fever zone chanting "Come on Taiwan?" Thai is short for Thailand not Taiwan. That is funny.

Imagine when we play Thailand, it would be totally confusing.

We would have to chant "We are the real Thailand"