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Boro4eva wrote:
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Good to get thru but does the end justifiy the means?� I guess it does if the draw gets u thru....Shades of senior team in South Africa.� It reninded me of that game Germany v Austria? froma few years ago when thay passed the ball back and foith for 30 odd minutes knowing the outcome suited them both.
2002 I remember a match like that. Not sure who.
Mexico v Italy. Del Piero scored with 5 mins to go, meaning both Italy and Mexico were through as it stood, so both teams played out for the draw.



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No Im thinking of another game..may have been Euro 2004 but definately Germany and?� Created a storm at the time.


Ah. Denmark vs Sweden. 2-2 draw to knock Italy out.
June 27, 2011 08:56 · Edited September 09, 2012 18:11
el grapadura
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Tegal wrote:
It's weird given the 3rd placed system they had that the last group games weren't played at the same time.

Blame FIFA for the end of that game,not the 2 teams.

Where did we finish in the group?


So you'd have 12 games played at the same time? Very practicable.

FIFA did what they've been doing for 25 years, playing the last games in each group at the same time trying to prevent these kinds of games from happening, but there is no sure way system of completing eliminating this kind of thing.
June 27, 2011 10:31 · Edited September 09, 2012 18:11
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Buffon II wrote:
Boro4eva wrote:
Buffon II wrote:
Traitor wrote:
Boro4eva wrote:
Good to get thru but does the end justifiy the means?� I guess it does if the draw gets u thru....Shades of senior team in South Africa.� It reninded me of that game Germany v Austria? froma few years ago when thay passed the ball back and foith for 30 odd minutes knowing the outcome suited them both.
2002 I remember a match like that. Not sure who.
Mexico v Italy. Del Piero scored with 5 mins to go, meaning both Italy and Mexico were through as it stood, so both teams played out for the draw.



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No Im thinking of another game..may have been Euro 2004 but definately Germany and?� Created a storm at the time.


Ah. Denmark vs Sweden. 2-2 draw to knock Italy out.


Italians complained because 2-2 was the score that guaranteed both Scandinavian countries to get through at their expense. But it was a cracking 2-2 draw, great attacking game from both sides to watch, and had a very late equaliser from the Swedes. And had the added bonus of knocking the Italians out and moaning their arses off.

June 27, 2011 10:44 · Edited September 09, 2012 18:11
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Boro4eva wrote:
No Im thinking of another game..may have been Euro 2004 but definately Germany and?  Created a storm at the time.


Austria and Germany, World Cup 1982.
June 27, 2011 10:47 · Edited September 09, 2012 18:11
el grapadura
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Doloras wrote:

Boro4eva wrote:
No Im thinking of another game..may have been Euro 2004 but definately Germany and?� Created a storm at the time.
Austria and Germany, World Cup 1982.


That game forced a change in regulations, meaning that from Mexico 86 the last 2 games in each group are played at the same time.
June 27, 2011 10:55 · Edited September 09, 2012 18:11
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Germans group stats Played 3 Won 3 Scored 11 conceded 1 - I'm sure Japan are a good side but i'd rather play them than Germany. They beat Panama, Ecudor and Burkina Fuso - not giants of teh game maybe but good enough to get to this stage out of Concacaf, South America and Africa so they have to be respected.
June 27, 2011 11:11 · Edited September 09, 2012 18:11
George Costanza
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anyone know what the story is between Australia v Denmark game?  SPD after 25 minutes of play.
June 27, 2011 11:55 · Edited September 09, 2012 18:11
el grapadura
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Temporarily suspended due to bad weather.
June 27, 2011 12:09 · Edited September 09, 2012 18:11
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"Extensive delay in Queretaro for the Joeys... lightning still in the area. No word yet on when the teams will return to the field"
June 27, 2011 12:13 · Edited September 09, 2012 18:11
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Doloras wrote:
Boro4eva wrote:
No Im thinking of another game..may have been Euro 2004 but definately Germany and?  Created a storm at the time.


Austria and Germany, World Cup 1982.
 
you are corerct...OMG..showing my age there if I can remember that far back!  Incidentally I played for MAP in 1978 before briefly joinng Avondale who were then in the northern league 4th div I think.  Good club MAP..lots of good sessions in the clubrooms post match...remember one guy called The Bishop!
June 27, 2011 12:27 · Edited September 09, 2012 18:11
el grapadura
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2ndBest wrote:
Extensive delay in Queretaro for the Joeys... lightning still in the area. No word yet on when the teams will return to the field"


They have until 12.55 to restart the game - and thunder has to be 30 seconds away from lightning.

Otherwise it'll have to be abandoned.el grapadura2011-06-27 12:31:58
June 27, 2011 12:29 · Edited September 09, 2012 18:11
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At least we don't have to face the Ivory Coast. That Souleymane bloke is on fire. Scored all 8 of their goals so far.
June 27, 2011 12:57 · Edited September 09, 2012 18:11
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"Joeys match against Denmark at the Under 17 World Cup will be replayed in its entirety tomorrow."
June 27, 2011 13:27 · Edited September 09, 2012 18:11
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Buffon II wrote:
At least we don't have to face the Ivory Coast. That Souleymane bloke is on fire. Scored all 8 of their goals so far.


From all accounts one hell of a game Brazil v Ivory Coast. Watching the highlights Souleymane Coulibaly scored 3 great goals, the 3rd to put them ahead 3-2 ,a cracking bicycle kick goal...talk about out-Brazil the Brazilians!
www.fifa.com/u17worldcup/highlights/video/video=1461970/index.html
June 27, 2011 13:55 · Edited September 09, 2012 18:11
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RedGed wrote:
Buffon II wrote:
At least we don't have to face the Ivory Coast. That Souleymane bloke is on fire. Scored all 8 of their goals so far.


From all accounts one hell of a game Brazil v Ivory Coast. Watching the highlights Souleymane Coulibaly scored 3 great goals, the 3rd to put them ahead 3-2 ,a cracking bicycle kick goal...talk about out-Brazil the Brazilians!
www.fifa.com/u17worldcup/highlights/video/video=1461970/index.html
 
There goes Carmichael's chance for golden boot.
 
Danny Hay opinion.  At least he could check his facts.
 
 
"At stake is a place in the round of 16, the knockout phase � a feat only the 1999 crop have previously been capable of achieving. "
 
I stopped reading after this.
 
June 27, 2011 15:59 · Edited September 09, 2012 18:11
el grapadura
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Danny Hay. Don't know why he even bothers anymore, has been an irrelevancy a long time now.
June 27, 2011 16:32 · Edited September 09, 2012 18:11
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el grapadura wrote:
Danny Hay. Don't know why he even bothers anymore, has been an irrelevancy a long time now.


Needs more "for".
June 27, 2011 16:43 · Edited September 09, 2012 18:11
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analyser wrote:
Toxin is right. You're all dreaming if you think we are going to walk over Japan.



Never said we would.

But would rather play Japan than Germany.
June 27, 2011 16:56 · Edited September 09, 2012 18:11
el grapadura
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Smithy wrote:

el grapadura wrote:
Danny Hay. Don't know why he even bothers anymore, has been an irrelevancy a long time now.
Needs more "for".


Plus I'm not sure 'irrelevancy' is actually a word.
June 27, 2011 16:56 · Edited September 09, 2012 18:11
Tegal
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Your first sentence is not a complete sentence.
June 27, 2011 16:59 · Edited September 09, 2012 18:11
el grapadura
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And the second sentence should probably have started with an 'I'.
June 27, 2011 17:03 · Edited September 09, 2012 18:11
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not sure who's worse - Danny Hay or Billy Harris George Costanza2011-06-27 17:38:50
June 27, 2011 17:37 · Edited September 09, 2012 18:11
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George Kostanza wrote:
not sure who's worse - Danny Hay or Billy Harris


Hay - far more bitter.
June 27, 2011 21:20 · Edited September 09, 2012 18:11
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aitkenmike wrote:
George Kostanza wrote:
not sure who's worse - Danny Hay or Billy Harris


Hay - far more bitter.


Danny Hay's column isn't close to as irrelevant as Noah Hickey's on TVNZ. Never anything worth reading in there.
June 27, 2011 23:15 · Edited September 09, 2012 18:11
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Australia and Denmark draw 1-1 in restart. Australia make it through and are playing Uzbekistan!
 
 
Round of 16 Match Date - Time Venue Results 37 29/06 15:00 Torreon Uzbekistan - Australia 38 29/06 15:00 Guadalajara Brazil - Ecuador 39 29/06 18:00 Morelia Congo - Uruguay 40 29/06 18:00 Monterrey Japan - New Zealand 41 30/06 15:00 Queretaro Germany - USA 42 30/06 15:00 Pachuca England - Argentina 43 30/06 18:00 Queretaro France - C�te d'Ivoire 44 30/06 18:00 Pachuca Mexico - Panama
 
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June 28, 2011 08:01 · Edited September 09, 2012 18:11
Buffon II
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KingRollo wrote:
aitkenmike wrote:
George Kostanza wrote:
not sure who's worse - Danny Hay or Billy Harris


Hay - far more bitter.


Danny Hay's column isn't close to as irrelevant as Noah Hickey's on TVNZ. Never anything worth reading in there.


Agreed. Nothing Hickey has written so far has been even remotely interesting, let alone right.
June 28, 2011 08:05 · Edited September 09, 2012 18:11
George Costanza
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hold on lads, there may be another contender...
 
 
June 28, 2011 10:18 · Edited September 09, 2012 18:11
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Just goes to prove that if you tell enough people often enough that you're actually worth listening to, someone somewhere will eventually give in... full credit to the Tommy Smyth of New Zealand football...
June 28, 2011 11:14 · Edited September 09, 2012 18:11
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Sky are getting their host countries confused.  Easy I guess as the women and u-17men both played/playing Japan.

 
FIFA U-17 World Cup LIVE
Channel: SKY Sport 1
Genre: SKY Sport
Description: New Zealand Football has once again progressed through to the knockout stages at a World Cup. Our Young All Whites take on Japan in the Round of 16 stage of the FIFA U17 Mens World Cup LIVE from Germany. Show Time: 
Thu 30 Jun10:45
FIFA U-17 World Cup Replay
Channel: SKY Sport 1
Genre: SKY Sport
Description: New Zealand Football has once again progressed through to the knockout stages at a World Cup. Our Young All Whites take on Japan in the Round of 16 stage of the FIFA U17 Mens World Cup replay from Germany. Show Time: 
Sat 2 Jul23:30
 
June 28, 2011 11:52 · Edited September 09, 2012 18:11
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Good to see Tuiloma getting a chance at LA Galaxy. Have been really impressed with his performances and someone I could see playing for the 'Nix. Unfortunately we probably can't match LA Galaxy without a full time development team.

I assume that this move will not allow him to take up any football scholarships for US colleges.
June 28, 2011 14:54 · Edited September 09, 2012 18:11
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He won't be on professional terms at Galaxy, just with their Academy. Provided he receives no monetary gain from his stay there, he shouldn't fall foul of NCAA rules.
June 28, 2011 16:53 · Edited September 09, 2012 18:11
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deckard wrote:

In the last 2 games, I think Payne has done well with scrap's, Carmicheal has shown glimpses of class, the full backs have looked good going forward at times and the two CB's have been solid. Best player for NZ has been the GK.

I thought Rhys Jordan did well in the 2nd half today started to show compusure on the ball and range in his passing. 1st half the midfield was outclassed by the Americans, they looked light years ahead. There no.10 was something else.
 
I personaly think Edge looks very awkard and lacks consistency. He gives the ball away far to often and dosen't affect the game, he looks like a headless chicken at times. I reckon Martin would do a far better Job for the team when they have possession. 
 
Mcfarland has done a great job in organising these players and they have had their fair share of luck. Personal changes are now key if his going to stick to a similar game plan against the Japs.
 
Hmmmmmmm not sure I agree with you at all.......Yes the GK has definitely done some good saves, however he always just kicks the ball back to the opposition so we on the defense yet again straight away and your opinion on Edge is a little warped he been my player of the tournament for NZ. Feel he has been the ONLY consistent player and the only one who HASN'T given the ball away!
June 28, 2011 22:11 · Edited September 09, 2012 18:11
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3 games without giving the ball away once? What an amazing player!
June 28, 2011 22:14 · Edited September 09, 2012 18:11
Buffon II
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Nope. Our best player has definitely been Basalaj. Edge isn't even close.
June 28, 2011 22:18 · Edited September 09, 2012 18:11
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Green Grass wrote:

deckard wrote:

In the last 2 games, I think Payne has done well with scrap's, Carmicheal has shown glimpses of class, the full backs have looked good going forward at times and the two CB's have been solid. Best player for NZ has been the GK.


I thought Rhys Jordan did well in the 2nd half today started�to show compusure on the ball and range in his passing. 1st half the midfield was outclassed by the Americans, they looked light years ahead. There no.10 was something else.

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I�personaly think Edge looks very awkard�and lacks consistency. He gives the ball away far to often and dosen't affect the game, he looks like a headless chicken at times. I reckon Martin would do a far better Job for the team when they have possession.�

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Mcfarland has done a great job in organising these players and they have had their fair share of luck. Personal changes�are now�key if his going to stick to�a similar game plan against the Japs.

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Hmmmmmmm not sure I agree with you at all.......Yes the GK has definitely done some good saves, however he always just kicks the ball back to the opposition so we on the defense yet again straight away and your opinion on Edge is a little warped he been my player of the tournament for NZ. Feel he has been the ONLY consistent player and the only one who HASN'T given the ball away!


In the last game against the USA I watched Edge make three atrocious passes that went straight out and really shouldn't have. I would count that as giving it away.
June 28, 2011 22:26 · Edited September 09, 2012 18:11
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Given Green Grass got worked up by the article on Edge, I hardly think he/she has an independent opinion on performances.
June 28, 2011 22:36 · Edited September 09, 2012 18:11
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Edge was a little of against USA but has been one of our better performers in the other two games - as commented on by the match commentators i was listening to.
 
The fact i didn't know the other DM's name should say alot as well, Rhys Jordan - i've seen little of him in any game, in fact  can not recall him.
 
Keeper has done well, could dominate the box a bit more in the air, but great refelxes.
June 28, 2011 23:29 · Edited September 09, 2012 18:11
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match preview

 
June 29, 2011 09:22 · Edited September 09, 2012 18:11
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2ndBest wrote:
Given Green Grass got worked up by the article on Edge, I hardly think he/she has an independent opinion on performances.
 
Isn't it funny how assumptions are made on this forum. I have no personal connection to young Edge at all, other than I have known the family name through my interest in football in this country. Just say how I see things, like I thought the rest of you did......
June 29, 2011 11:48 · Edited September 09, 2012 18:11
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