New Zealand Men's U-17s

So basically it's advertised for the sake of advertising it but the position is virtually sewn up?

Sounds like any other job vacancy tbh.

Michael Burgess: Strange timing in sacking of under-17 duo

Saw the St Kent's Vs St Peters ASSS Knock Out Cup game on Tuesday 2-2 extra time St Kent's win on penalties.

Didn't see Zorocich until he was pointed out standing on the wall outside the ground. apparently serving the rest of his suspension for verbal abuse of an official from last season.

Good stuff NZF

Hilarious!

Jesus wept, you couldn't make it up! Well, actually.

Apparently Hay has been suspended twice last year for verbal abuse too.

What a cope out. Who did he employ as his assistant and as U20s assistant.

Anthony Hudson speaking re: U17s coaching change. "One of the key concerns was the fact we don't have any kiwi coaches on our staff".

— Andrew Gourdie (@Andrew_Gourdie) April 23, 2015

Hate to say 'I told you so'

Hudson on 17s change "we have to have total alignment. That's all I'll say. It was led by me, supported by NZ Football."

— Andrew Gourdie (@Andrew_Gourdie) April 23, 2015

"Alignment, Kiwis"...whatever the fudge; it's all getting- rid-of-someone-you-don't-want-101. But he is now acting like the czar, so let's hope this emperor actually does have some clothes, otherwise he'll be up shark creek.

You told us so.

Still makes me angry.

Half of my pool of anger is the jingoistic crap of needing "Kiwi coaches". Fine - why now? Do it at the end of the WC? No comment provided on Figueira and Temple lacking the necessary skills etc so have to assume that wasn't an issue.

The other half is why is Hudson worrying about the U17's to this degree? It's not like he's likely to select any players for the WC in the full squad. Rogerson and McGarry are outside chances at best for 2018 but let's be realistic, not likely.

NZF (Martin) should have just said no.  

Hudson is becoming a real worry! Its time for all of his "used car salesman" lines to cease and for him to deliver some results.

I agree it is a concern. The kicker is, if we qualify for Russia, he is going to look like a genius. I think the proof is in the pudding but having alignment to me is something that should have happened a long time ago. The amount of power he has, I wonder how much is unchecked and also what role FDJ plays in all this.

Should definitely hear from de Jong, as High Performance Director, on this.

Don't really buy this.

Yup. That's bullshark.

Hudson has mugged the lot of us and he's getting away with because Martin is allowing it to happen.

I wouldn't be so sure. You're going to look a fool if a) the Under 20's progress, b) he gets us to Russia.

Wait so an Englishman is sacking our coaches because they're not Kiwis? ...you might be the next one to go then! 

What does that have to do with the U17's?

I have to say as much as you might accuse me of being pro Fred you are equally in the opposite camp - any time you can attempt to throw him under the bus you give it a damn good go.

Can i "this" this post a 100 times?

He's a complete chancer. Agree with what several others said on the last page, he just speaks bullshark PR speak and tries to make out as if he is the leader of this magical revolution. Charlatan.

who would have thought it...hudson more defensive in that interview than a Herbert starting X1.

It's bollox.

Personally I think that we have too many British coaches in our system but its mostly because they are passionate about coaching and take it up throughout all the age groups. We are very top heavy with British coaches in our federation and national coaching systems.

However Figuera and Temple may be English lads but they came to NZ over a decade ago, have both married NZ women and Temple has 2 kids born here. They may be British but in my mind given how much time and effort they have invested in local football they are essentially Kiwis.

If the key concern is not enough Kiwi coaches then start appointing them to jobs rather than pulling the rug out from coaches in the middle of a job (who are effectively Kiwis anyway).

Stevie Baxter arrived from Scotland, had been in the country for less than 6 months and found himself as an assistant coach at a womans world cup (U20's from memory). A prominent Kiwi womans coach had applied for the position as assistant coach. He was turned down because he was apparently "tactically niave".  I remember thinking at the time why does the assistant coach have to be some sort of tactical genius?. 

We have this unique situation where at age group level and Olympic level we  essentially qualify without too much drama for age group world cups in both sexes. In total this is 6 squads which gives NZ football a huge amount of latitude to put developing coaches into assisting positions which in turn means we grow our depth of coaching. Its been like this for a long time now but apparently they are just addressing it now?.  If thats the reason that Temple and Figuera were dumped then its a very weak reason. The powers that be could have let them finish the job and then at the next set of appointments pushed more Kiwi coaches into those positions. U17 men and women, U20 men and women, Olympic men and women in just the next couple of years will give a ton of chances to address the issue.

so who has been here longer- temple or Emblen?

Under The Bill Of Rights it is my understanding that you cannot differentiate based on race when making an employment appointment.

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the race to the bar is very important in football circles...

He states its disappointing, but doesn't not say non NZ nationals need not apply... you should see job adverts in the Middle East. There is little confusion as to whom they want and don't want.

I agree with most of it. I'd love to have more local coaches but this is not the way to do it.

The problem NZ has is that coaches here don't have access to internationally recognised qualification, and there are very few full time gigs. So when they apply, they are coming up against overseas coaches who are more qualified, and have more experience, even if it is at a community level.

I don't for one second believe that reasoning.

Cutting the water budget of our youth teams for competitions in the Islands?

Must have been the pay to play for your country thing. 

Need to rewatch, but appears to be hypocrisy in Hudson saying they will help develop Hay/Zoricich, but not giving the incumbents a chance (assuming they needed it)

http://www.3news.co.nz/sport/video-anthony-hudson-...

Just found this. Gourdie gives it to him

Hudson makes some fair points in the TV interview.

But the clip is most memorable for the first-class line of questioning from Andrew Gourdie, which has done all fans a real service in attempting to scratch beneath the surface of glib press releases and get to the nub of matters. Well done, Gourdie. Great journalism.

Football's answer to John Campbell.

Sitting on the fence again Bruce, what fair fair points did Hudson bring up.If bullshark was sand he'd be the Sahara Desert. Andrew Gourdie is a good journalist but could of gone further with his questions

the rub is if you are either a coach or player what confidence do you have in the pathway 

Hello Heyref, 

What resonated most with me was Hudson's view that Zoricich and Hay had both had pro careers in the UK - and captained the All Whites -and that was quite a useful skillset to have when coaching an age group where players are grappling with the challenges of trying to break into pro football... having mentors who know exactly what it takes and have walked the walk.

I have some doubts about Hudson's strategies, but I would certainly take on board that point.

So perhaps you cold now substantiate your comments...

A question for you... having viewed the interview, how (in what way) exactly do you think Gourdie could have gone further? Be genuinely interested to hear your suggested supplementary questions.

And just as an aside, to help contextualise your own gravitas in these matters, have you ever conducted a media interview yourself?

thanks in advance.