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10 Sep 22:21
imanixsupporter
LBS hasn't done anything yet, it is all just hype at this point. Kosta and Rojas and Singh were way more impressive players when we first saw them. Of course I am not saying he won't be as good or better than those guys but I am certainly not expecting that he will yet.  
He did more on the ball than most players the first moment he got it, in his first international a game against Australia.
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10 Sep 23:06 · edited 10 Sep 23:06 · History
LBS is 2 years younger at first sighting than the others you mentioned, we wouldn't expect him to be at that level.

Still, the talent is plainly there to see - how the Nix nurture it is now what's important.

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10 Sep 23:25 · edited 10 Sep 23:26 · History
Hopefully the new Brazilian assistant coach takes him (plus GSR & Walker) under his wing, and yes does nuture that talent. I'm sure Kelly Guimarães has seen dozens of talented kids like LBS in Brazil.

The 3 attacking youngsters will have good and bad games. It won't be linear consistent stuff at their young ages. And of course they need to be in a team playing better than last season's dirge.

We watch to see how they go at the U20 WC first.


“He's a really exciting prospect,” Bazeley said of Brooke-Smith on Tuesday, after handing him a debut that made it clear he’s in the mix for next year’s FIFA World Cup in North America, which could end up being his third in the space of nine months – the same feat Football Fern Milly Clegg managed in 12 months in 2022 and 2023.

“I think the challenge for him now is he needs to have a really big season, down at the Phoenix. Hopefully he's after that breakout season, and scores goals and plays a lot of minutes, which is up to him. What we've seen in him is that he's a little bit different to any other players we have. He does have a bit of pace. He does like to take people on. That's something that we're probably missing in our squad.

“He's a little bit of a wild card, so we added him late to the squad, knowing that if a moment came like this, you can throw somebody out like that onto the pitch.

“Sometimes no-one's sure what's going to happen – Aussie and us. He had a couple of moments tonight where he excited the crowd and showed glimpses of the player that he may become.”
10 Sep 23:44
no younger than Irankunda who was quite a bit more impressive also 
Nelfoos
LBS is 2 years younger at first sighting than the others you mentioned, we wouldn't expect him to be at that level.

Still, the talent is plainly there to see - how the Nix nurture it is now what's important.
10 Sep 23:48
imanixsupporter
no younger than Irankunda who was quite a bit more impressive also 
Nelfoos
LBS is 2 years younger at first sighting than the others you mentioned, we wouldn't expect him to be at that level.

Still, the talent is plainly there to see - how the Nix nurture it is now what's important.

Two and a half years younger, actually
10 Sep 23:53 · edited 10 Sep 23:57 · History
Yipe do some fact checking IMANS. 

Irankunda - DOB 09/02/2006
Brooke-Smith - DOB 08/06/2008

Could LBS be at Nestory's level in 2.5 years? Maybe. Cross fingers and toes it happens.
He'll definitely to be a better player than now, and at a higher level than the ALM.
Nix fans enjoy him whilst you can.

11 Sep 00:53
I think he was meaning when both of them debuted... not his age now.

IMANIXSUPPORTER is right IMO - out of the two, Irakandu was definately more eye catching when he debuted in the A League. More dynamic, and also more petulant.
11 Sep 01:27
Yeah, note the past tense in my comment, though to be fair I wasn't that clear. Was indeed meaning when Irankunda burst onto the scene at Adelaide at the age of 15/16
11 Sep 02:10
Oh no our exciting young player isn’t as good as the best teenage prospect the A-League has ever produced…
11 Sep 03:02
Thus far not only is he not as good but not really even particularly close... i'm just trying to balance the hype and expectation a bit, for now. 
11 Sep 04:07
Yes he's a 'project player' for now. But after a pretty limp AWs performance Tuesday, his debut is a welcome good news story.

This U20 WC will be another measuring benchmark for him. How good is he against many of his world peers. 

Though it will be a mixed yardstick as he will be one of the younger players, plus with the U20 tourney being played a few months later than earlier additions, is going to be a big number of the world's most talented 19-20 yr old staying with their in season European clubs, aka Tyler Bindon.

A lower quality U20 WC compared to previous tourneys?
11 Sep 04:34
Aus squad named, hurry up with ours NZF
11 Sep 08:08
Swings & roundabouts. The AWs got named about a week before the Socceroos for those Sept games.

17 of the 23 from the ALM.

11 Sep 09:16
imanixsupporter
Aus squad named, hurry up with ours NZF

Tomorrow. 
12 Sep 00:01 · edited 12 Sep 00:02 · History


So excited to watch this squad!
12 Sep 00:25 · edited 12 Sep 01:20 · History
No AKH. Wonder if he was not fit enough, or just not picked.
Gray and Wallis (both at Championship clubs) are two top prospects.

Casa-Grande the bolter, is the 3rd keeper. Bristol City U21s. Has been in Welsh U19 camps, and was trialling at Yeovil Town back in July. Currently on loan to Dorchester Town (English 7th tier). So no slouch it seems.

Luka Coveny injured?  Captained the U19s last year, and voted player of the OFC qualifying tourney.

No Marley Leulaui. Ditto Ricky Fransen, who is apparently on a first Team Contract at WSW. Lots of CB competition.


Possible starting 11
Gray
Loke (LB), Dupont, Bulkeley, Putt (RB)
LKH (DM), McKenlay & GSR
LBS, Supyk & Ukich


So you have some very useful footballers like Wallis, Walker and Jayden Smith only on the pine.

Putt was almost the best player when NZ toured Chile in May. So I'd stick Loke on the left and make room for LKH by putting him at DM, where he played alot for the Nix last season. The midfield does seem potentially the weak spot of this U20 team. No 2019 Joe Bell equivalent?

I'd also put GSR in as a AM, as I think he's played there a bit?? 
If no he's better wide on the wing, Gillion or Middleton to come into starting midfield I guess. 
12 Sep 00:34
Anyone know how Keegan Kelly is going?
12 Sep 00:40
HattyCW
Anyone know how Keegan Kelly is going?

No idea about his college stuff, but he came off the pine in the 2nd Chile U20 game, when Supyk took a knock. And from memory he did some clever stuff to force a corner that the team (Bulkeley?) then scored their goal from.
12 Sep 00:47
Coveny maybe not going because he is trying to sort out his club future? 
12 Sep 01:18
Just
Coveny maybe not going because he is trying to sort out his club future? 

Quite possibly. 
Harry Casci is also at Western United, and was on the tour to Chile a few months ago. Likewise not picked in this World Cup squad.
12 Sep 01:23
Just
Coveny maybe not going because he is trying to sort out his club future? 

Haven't got the match log to hand (I'll have a dig around for it) but Coveny was injured for a large part of the Victorian NPL season (knee).
 
He mssed a good couple of months at the back end of that campaign, so likely still injured, or hasn't fully recovered. Similar situation for Alby Kelly-Heald who was fighting to get fit for this, but has obviously missed the cut on that front as well.
12 Sep 04:17
Some decent prospects missed out, so a bit more pressure on this lot to perform??

Putt is a RB, but I'm sure he played more advanced in the Chile friendlies.
12 Sep 04:20
coochiee
HattyCW
Anyone know how Keegan Kelly is going?

No idea about his college stuff, but he came off the pine in the 2nd Chile U20 game, when Supyk took a knock. And from memory he did some clever stuff to force a corner that the team (Bulkeley?) then scored their goal from.
Nothing flash a regular starter and is just going about his work.
12 Sep 04:24 · edited 16 Sep 00:58 · History
MetalLegNZ
Some decent prospects missed out, so a bit more pressure on this lot to perform??

Putt is a RB, but I'm sure he played more advanced in the Chile friendlies.

Yeah I think he did but he's playing RB for Minnesota II in the MLS Next Pro, and this team already has plenty of good wide attacking players. Ukich, LBS, Walker & GSR. Walker wasn't fit for those Chile matches.

Personally I think the best use of LKH in the U20s could be as a DM. 

Oh and Putt could be a break out star of this tourney. Seems to be rated at Minnesota already.
18 Sep 01:22
Apparently when they arrive, Chile will be in the midst of a week of National Day celebrations.

Warmup match against the Young Socceroos in Santiago?

18 Sep 01:29 · edited 18 Sep 01:31 · History
coochiee
Apparently when they arrive, Chile will be in the midst of a week of National Day celebrations.

Warmup match against the Young Socceroos in Santiago?


NZ are playing a match against South Korea at some stage between now and next Sunday, likely to be one XI for 45 and a largely-changed XI for the other 45. Putt also will not be playing right back (and Kelly-Heald almost certainly won't be playing midfield)
18 Sep 01:38 · edited 18 Sep 01:43 · History
Just read that. Good simulation for Japan?

Don't the mens U20s have the best consistent record of any national team? Making the knockout phase at the last four U20 WCs?

I think without an easier opponent from CONCACAF in their pool this time, that record is at risk. Chile & Japan will be tough you'd think. A win over Egypt the target to be the best 3rd placed team??


So Loke & LKH the full backs with Coulibaly as cover?
Putt as a forward. Midfield looks a weakness, but is going to be some useful forwards on the pine to hopefully come on and make an impact the 2nd half of games.

Some exciting ballers amongst LBS, GSR, Putt, Walker and Ukich.

https://www.friendsoffootballnz.com/2025/09/18/flexibility-will-serve-new-zealand-well-at-fifa-u-20-world-cup-says-coach/

Greenacre confirmed the squad would play Korea Republic in a warm-up game ahead of the start of the tournament on September 27, 2025.
18 Sep 02:58
LKH on the left - is this to give the team some added size as opposed to Loke who would offer a more mobile option. That shift one would have to assume is down to the style of play/expectation on formation etc.

I would be worried about mobility personally looking at our potential backline (Smith and LKH are slow turners etc). 

Glad to see Putt will play further up. He looked quality in the Chile games. With GSR and LBS in the middle/up top we have a pretty exciting forward line. 

Even if we don't win - I think we will at least be seen as trying to play football the 'right' way and with positive intent.
18 Sep 03:11
Smith might be backing up Dupont & Bulkeley. 

At 18 (DOB 4/07/2007) Jayden S is on the younger side, and will still be eligible for the 2027 U20 WC.
18 Sep 05:48
Possibly, but he also has more senior mens minutes that the other two no??
18 Sep 06:12 · edited 18 Sep 06:14 · History
Maybe in the Australia Cup but zero in the ALM. 

Actually I see Dupont is only 17 so even younger than Smith! Seems like he’s impressing the folks at West Brom. Him and Bulkeley more “in season” than Smith

Pity Luka Coveny is not there.
18 Sep 08:07
Are the 12pm kick offs NZT midnight or midday?

Oi Oi Edgecumbe... lets have a clean sheet

18 Sep 09:30
coochiee
Maybe in the Australia Cup but zero in the ALM. 

Actually I see Dupont is only 17 so even younger than Smith! Seems like he’s impressing the folks at West Brom. Him and Bulkeley more “in season” than Smith

Pity Luka Coveny is not there.
How come he hasn't been picked? Looks like he's been released? But surely you back your captain from the OFC championships regardless of where he's playing
18 Sep 09:30
Oi Oi Edgecumbe
Are the 12pm kick offs NZT midnight or midday?
Midday
18 Sep 09:41
Football enthusiast
coochiee
Maybe in the Australia Cup but zero in the ALM. 

Actually I see Dupont is only 17 so even younger than Smith! Seems like he’s impressing the folks at West Brom. Him and Bulkeley more “in season” than Smith

Pity Luka Coveny is not there.
How come he hasn't been picked? Looks like he's been released? But surely you back your captain from the OFC championships regardless of where he's playing

Sounds like he's likely injured.
18 Sep 10:39
Makes sense. 

Says on Transfermarkt that Cas-Grande is playing for Dorchester in England, and joined on a free transfer (Not a loan). The NZ Football graphic says Bristol City. 
18 Sep 12:59
I see FIFA has increased the compensation for clubs who have players at the mens 2026 WC by 70%. Now 300 million euros, so a bit of cash for the Nix.
Do the offer compo for the U20s WC? The Nix would score with our 9???? players.

19 Sep 01:40
austin111
I see FIFA has increased the compensation for clubs who have players at the mens 2026 WC by 70%. Now 300 million euros, so a bit of cash for the Nix.
Do the offer compo for the U20s WC? The Nix would score with our 9???? players.

 There is no club solidarity programme for age-group world cups.