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New Zealand Men's U-20s

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12 May 01:22
Austraia apparently running trials for an U18 tour and U20's.

Will be interesting to hear how many Aussie based kiwis are invited to trial. With both teams having qualified for the WC our pull may not as be as strong as it would had been otherwise??
20 May 01:15
20 May 01:19 · edited 29 May 02:30 · History
7 Nix players. AKH would make it 8 if fit.
Auckland with 5.

Promising news that Henry Gray is available, hopefully a good sign he'll also be released by Ipswich for the World Cup.

James Mitchell is a CM.
https://theniche-cache.com/football/2025/2/20/auckland-fc-have-unveiled-their-very-first-mens-reserves-squad
Eastern Suburbs got a bit confusing last season because they already had James Mitchell with them as a homegrown talent, then they added Luke Mitchell as an U20s loanee from Hamilton Wanderers (no relation). But it’s James Mitchell that’s signed with Auckland. JM is listed here as a midfielder but of his six starts for the Lilywhites during the 2024 National League, five were as a central defender. Where, by the way, he was fantastic. Reads the game really well. Good defensive instincts. He did get to play the last game of the campaign in midfield so perhaps that’s his favoured position and he was simply getting in where he fitted in. Either way, that’s good versatility.
20 May 01:22
coochiee
7 Nix players. AKH would make it 8 if fit.

Promising news that Henry Gray is unavailble, hopefully a good sign he'll also be relaesed by Ipswich for the World Cup.

is Nathan Walker to old for this cohort?
20 May 01:27 · edited 21 May 03:03 · History
19 yr old Walker must be injured. He did come off are being clattered in the Darwin match.

Other Nix guys to miss out include Dylan Gardiner,  Lachlan Candy, Daniel Makowem and Anaru Cassidy. The last 3 having been in & around the first team from memory.

Interesting that midfielder Fergus Gillion (Liam's little bro) has been picked, when I don't think he has as yet been near the Nix first team. But maybe that's a sign that this U20 team is a bit light in midfield.


Edit - by my maths only 5 players are there from the U17 team at their WC in 2023.
Coveny, Dupont, GSR, Ukich and Supyk.  Walker was also at that World Cup

Edit 2 - oh and as AV pointed out recently Bindon would actually be eligible for this WC. But you can't see Forest releasing him, and fair enough.

Happy just to see Ipswich release Gray for these Chile games.

Optimstic this U20 team will do better than the side that went to Argentina in 2023. A side who's age cohort had their development & buildup disrupted by the Covid years
20 May 02:24
Hey look! We’ve signed Gillion!!!


21 May 09:16
Dupont's signing is interesting. Has just signed a pro contract (but what does that actually look like), as he is still maily playing underage footy when you have Ruben & Max Argent (Perth) Gardiner (NIX Reserves) Fransen (WSW Reserves) all playing in senior men competitions.

I'd rate the above leagues over u18 footy and u21 footy.

With Dupont and Smith we would potentially have the youngest CB pairing at the u20 WC by quite a margin, if they were to be the top two picks.

21 May 10:08 · edited 21 May 10:23 · History
Dupont sounds very promising. He's only yes 17 (18 in October), but he might be closer to the West Brom first team than we know. It's a proper 2 year senior pro deal he's been signed on. Played against a few National League sides (English 5th tier) for the WBA U21s

Greenacre would have done his research.

From what I can see James Bulkeley (20) and utility Adama Coulibaly (20) are the other 2 CBs named in this 21 player squad for Chile. They could well be the starting pair. You also have LKH, plus James Mitchell was apparently playing as a CB for Eastern Suburbs in the NRL last year. Now more a DM at Auckland FC reserves?

https://www.friendsoffootballnz.com/2025/04/29/age-group-international-noah-dupont-signs-pro-deal-with-english-club/#:~:text=New%20Zealand%20age%20group%20international,club%20since%20he%20was%20six.

Of DuPont, Stevens (WBA Academy Manager) said: “As a centre-half, you need certain qualities, and Noah has those. He’s strong, competitive, has a good frame, which will make him a really good, modern-day defender, and he’s shown he can cope against the levels above his age group.

Training with the first team when they’ve needed players, playing for the 21s and particularly when they’ve competed in the National League Cup, he’s shown he can play against men and stand up to those challenges.

21 May 20:08
coochiee
Dupont sounds very promising. He's only yes 17 (18 in October), but he might be closer to the West Brom first team than we know. It's a proper 2 year senior pro deal he's been signed on. Played against a few National League sides (English 5th tier) for the WBA U21s

Greenacre would have done his research.

From what I can see James Bulkeley (20) and utility Adama Coulibaly (20) are the other 2 CBs named in this 21 player squad for Chile. They could well be the starting pair. You also have LKH, plus James Mitchell was apparently playing as a CB for Eastern Suburbs in the NRL last year. Now more a DM at Auckland FC reserves?

https://www.friendsoffootballnz.com/2025/04/29/age-group-international-noah-dupont-signs-pro-deal-with-english-club/#:~:text=New%20Zealand%20age%20group%20international,club%20since%20he%20was%20six.

Of DuPont, Stevens (WBA Academy Manager) said: “As a centre-half, you need certain qualities, and Noah has those. He’s strong, competitive, has a good frame, which will make him a really good, modern-day defender, and he’s shown he can cope against the levels above his age group.

Training with the first team when they’ve needed players, playing for the 21s and particularly when they’ve competed in the National League Cup, he’s shown he can play against men and stand up to those challenges.


I saw that press release as well - looking forward to seeing how they all go. Definately a better cohort of players than our last u20 lot IMO.
21 May 20:25
coochiee
Dupont sounds very promising. He's only yes 17 (18 in October), but he might be closer to the West Brom first team than we know. It's a proper 2 year senior pro deal he's been signed on. Played against a few National League sides (English 5th tier) for the WBA U21s

Greenacre would have done his research.

From what I can see James Bulkeley (20) and utility Adama Coulibaly (20) are the other 2 CBs named in this 21 player squad for Chile. They could well be the starting pair. You also have LKH, plus James Mitchell was apparently playing as a CB for Eastern Suburbs in the NRL last year. Now more a DM at Auckland FC reserves?

https://www.friendsoffootballnz.com/2025/04/29/age-group-international-noah-dupont-signs-pro-deal-with-english-club/#:~:text=New%20Zealand%20age%20group%20international,club%20since%20he%20was%20six.

Of DuPont, Stevens (WBA Academy Manager) said: “As a centre-half, you need certain qualities, and Noah has those. He’s strong, competitive, has a good frame, which will make him a really good, modern-day defender, and he’s shown he can cope against the levels above his age group.

Training with the first team when they’ve needed players, playing for the 21s and particularly when they’ve competed in the National League Cup, he’s shown he can play against men and stand up to those challenges.


Bulkeley and Luka Coveny were the starting pair at the OFC U-19 Championship last year. Coulibaly has been picked first and foremost as a right back and Kelly-Heald first and foremost as a left back. When you consider that those two could also play CB, then think of the Argent brothers, Fransen, Gardiner (but possibly more so Seth Karunaratne, who went to the OFC U-19 Championship out of the Phoenix ahead of Gardiner) and of course Tyler Bindon, it's an incredibly strong CB pool. The Argents, DuPont, Fransen and Smith will all be eligible again in 2027 as well.
21 May 23:55
Luka Coveny. Of course.
29 May 03:14 · edited 29 May 03:16 · History
U20 WC draw to be made tomorrow morning.

https://www.socceroos.com.au/news/how-watch-fifa-u-20-world-cup-chile-2025tm-draw

Squad must be leaving (or have left) for their two warmup games in Chile.

The first match will be played on Thursday 5 June NZT (Wednesday 4 June local time) at Complejo Deportivo Quilín.

The second match will take place on Sunday 8 June NZT (Saturday 7 June local time) at Estadio Bicentenario de La Florida.

Both games will kick off at 7:30am NZT (3:30pm local time).
29 May 06:06
The All Whites are also playing on the 8th at 1100 am. Looks like it will be a busy morning 
29 May 22:47
NZ got Chile, Japan and Egypt in Group A.. brutal 
29 May 23:08 · edited 29 May 23:11 · History
Yeah that's a tough draw. It's only a 24 team WC, so there ain't many minnows there.

The Young Socceroos drew Argentina, Italy and Cuba

Ironically we are about to play the Chileans. Then across the Andes the Young Socceroos are playing some warmups next week in Argentina!!

New Caledonia got France, USA and CAF champs South Africa. Gulp

https://www.fifa.com/en/tournaments/mens/u20worldcup/chile-2025/articles/draw-results

Group A: Chile, Egypt, Japan, New Zealand
Group B: Korea Republic, Panama, Paraguay, Ukraine
Group C: Brazil, Mexico, Morocco, Spain
Group D: Argentina, Australia, Cuba, Italy
Group E: France, New Caledonia, South Africa, USA
Group F: Colombia, Nigeria, Norway, Saudi Arabia

29 May 23:13
Is that a horrible draw? 

I guess we'll see how good Chile are in the friendlies. Yes there could've been a better draw, but at least we avoided the big guns (Spain, France, Brazil) who all finished first/second in their respective competitions. 

Chile really struggled in that U20 South American cup, I'm sure it was much more competitive than our OFC competition. 

Egypt only came 4th in their Africa cup of nations despite being the host nation. 

Looks like Japan came 3rd in the 2025 U20 Asian cup, will be a good side. 

This is definitely a decent draw considering we weren't able to have New Caledonia in the same group as us, pretty hopeful that we can qualify for the round of 16 here. 
29 May 23:25
NZ have a pretty abysmal record vs South American teams, and they’re much better then NZ.. Japan always look a class above when NZ play them in all levels, not sure about Egypt
Football enthusiast
Is that a horrible draw? 

I guess we'll see how good Chile are in the friendlies. Yes there could've been a better draw, but at least we avoided the big guns (Spain, France, Brazil) who all finished first/second in their respective competitions. 

Chile really struggled in that U20 South American cup, I'm sure it was much more competitive than our OFC competition. 

Egypt only came 4th in their Africa cup of nations despite being the host nation. 

Looks like Japan came 3rd in the 2025 U20 Asian cup, will be a good side. 

This is definitely a decent draw considering we weren't able to have New Caledonia in the same group as us, pretty hopeful that we can qualify for the round of 16 here. 
30 May 02:27
Nixieboys222
NZ have a pretty abysmal record vs South American teams, and they’re much better then NZ.. Japan always look a class above when NZ play them in all levels, not sure about Egypt
Football enthusiast
Is that a horrible draw? 

I guess we'll see how good Chile are in the friendlies. Yes there could've been a better draw, but at least we avoided the big guns (Spain, France, Brazil) who all finished first/second in their respective competitions. 

Chile really struggled in that U20 South American cup, I'm sure it was much more competitive than our OFC competition. 

Egypt only came 4th in their Africa cup of nations despite being the host nation. 

Looks like Japan came 3rd in the 2025 U20 Asian cup, will be a good side. 

This is definitely a decent draw considering we weren't able to have New Caledonia in the same group as us, pretty hopeful that we can qualify for the round of 16 here. 
Is there any team in the WC that NZ have a good record against bar NewCal?

30 May 02:41
NZ has beaten Honduras twice, and Guatemala once, the other wins was vs Norway and Myanmar.. so you could make an argument that Central American teams NZ is probably stronger then and have a good record (2w 1D)
Football enthusiast
Nixieboys222
NZ have a pretty abysmal record vs South American teams, and they’re much better then NZ.. Japan always look a class above when NZ play them in all levels, not sure about Egypt
Football enthusiast
Is that a horrible draw? 

I guess we'll see how good Chile are in the friendlies. Yes there could've been a better draw, but at least we avoided the big guns (Spain, France, Brazil) who all finished first/second in their respective competitions. 

Chile really struggled in that U20 South American cup, I'm sure it was much more competitive than our OFC competition. 

Egypt only came 4th in their Africa cup of nations despite being the host nation. 

Looks like Japan came 3rd in the 2025 U20 Asian cup, will be a good side. 

This is definitely a decent draw considering we weren't able to have New Caledonia in the same group as us, pretty hopeful that we can qualify for the round of 16 here. 
Is there any team in the WC that NZ have a good record against bar NewCal?

30 May 03:16 · edited 30 May 03:22 · History
Yes I was hoping we would draw Cuba. 
Snuck into CONCACAF quarters as a 3rd placed in their pool, and then bet Honduras on pens in their QF to make semis and WC qualification 

Australia’s luck
30 May 03:19
Yeah fair enough Cuba would've been ideal, but I don't think its the difference between a very tough draw and an easy draw. 

I think we have to appreciate that 2/3 teams will always be very very tough games for NZ, but I don't think in the group we have there is an "Outstanding" team, based on their previous results anyway. We'll have a better gauge after the Chile games
02 Jun 06:01
Are these 2 games on FIFA+?


The men’s U-20 team will face Chile over two games in the Santiago Metropolitan Region, Chile.

The first match will be played on
Thursday 5 June NZT (Wednesday 4 June local time) at Complejo Deportivo Quilín.

The second match will take place on
Sunday 8 June NZT (Saturday 7 June local time) at Estadio Bicentenario de La Florida.

Both games will
kick off at 7:30am NZT (3:30pm local time).

https://www.nzfootball.co.nz/newsarticle/153591?newsfeedId=1275608&newsfeedPageNum=1
02 Jun 07:10
coochiee
Are these 2 games on FIFA+?


The men’s U-20 team will face Chile over two games in the Santiago Metropolitan Region, Chile.

The first match will be played on
Thursday 5 June NZT (Wednesday 4 June local time) at Complejo Deportivo Quilín.

The second match will take place on
Sunday 8 June NZT (Saturday 7 June local time) at Estadio Bicentenario de La Florida.

Both games will
kick off at 7:30am NZT (3:30pm local time).

https://www.nzfootball.co.nz/newsarticle/153591?newsfeedId=1275608&newsfeedPageNum=1
 There is no NZ broadcast as yet.
03 Jun 01:49 · edited 03 Jun 01:49 · History
See that for the World Cup, NZ will play 2 of their 3 pool games in Santiago, and the other in the nearby holiday resort/port city of Valparaiso

For the many cultured types on here there are sites in Valparaiso dedicated to Chilean poet Pablo Neruda. He won the 1971 Nobel Prize in Literature, and is one of the most famous Spanish Language poets.

A staunch commie & bohemian, lots of rumours he was poisoned on the orders of dictator Pinochet. But Neruda did have cancer at time of death.

https://digitalhub.fifa.com/m/35a71bef3ce6b0a/original/FIFA-U-20-World-Cup-Chile-2025-Match-Schedule.pdf
03 Jun 05:40
Not quite as cultured, but Valparaiso also features in H. P. Lovecraft’s gothic horror The Call of Cthulhu - along with Dunedin.
04 Jun 02:09
andrewvoerman
coochiee
Are these 2 games on FIFA+?


The men’s U-20 team will face Chile over two games in the Santiago Metropolitan Region, Chile.

The first match will be played on
Thursday 5 June NZT (Wednesday 4 June local time) at Complejo Deportivo Quilín.

The second match will take place on
Sunday 8 June NZT (Saturday 7 June local time) at Estadio Bicentenario de La Florida.

Both games will
kick off at 7:30am NZT (3:30pm local time).

https://www.nzfootball.co.nz/newsarticle/153591?newsfeedId=1275608&newsfeedPageNum=1
 There is no NZ broadcast as yet.

Still no news of a NZ broadcast?

First match 7.30am (NZT) tomorrow.
04 Jun 02:31
coochiee
andrewvoerman
coochiee
Are these 2 games on FIFA+?


The men’s U-20 team will face Chile over two games in the Santiago Metropolitan Region, Chile.

The first match will be played on
Thursday 5 June NZT (Wednesday 4 June local time) at Complejo Deportivo Quilín.

The second match will take place on
Sunday 8 June NZT (Saturday 7 June local time) at Estadio Bicentenario de La Florida.

Both games will
kick off at 7:30am NZT (3:30pm local time).

https://www.nzfootball.co.nz/newsarticle/153591?newsfeedId=1275608&newsfeedPageNum=1
 There is no NZ broadcast as yet.

Still no news of a NZ broadcast?

First match 7.30am (NZT) tomorrow.

Appears not. Was told it might be on Pluto.TV locally if anyone wants to fire up a VPN and see, and there should be highlights/goals footage after.
04 Jun 03:28
Why isn't it being picked up by Fifa+??
04 Jun 06:45
MetalLegNZ
Why isn't it being picked up by Fifa+??

It’s a Chile production, not NZF. Believe NZF were trying to get access, but seemingly to no avail. Those recent U17 friendlies were a FIFA show hence why they were there.
04 Jun 06:45 · edited 04 Jun 06:46 · History
MetalLegNZ
Why isn't it being picked up by Fifa+??

Edit: Double post
04 Jun 11:46 · edited 04 Jun 11:47 · History
Hopefully there is some live updates on Twitter. Will probably depend how the game is going!

04 Jun 19:44
You would have to think since we are in their group, that the true value of these friendly games diminish a little.

Can’t see either team showing much 

Auckland will rise once more

04 Jun 20:32
Both sides are probably looking at each other as the team to beat to progress - so I think getting a couple wins and a little pyschological edge over the opposition will be valued by both sides.

Knowing you've already beaten the other side recently should give you confidence.

I did note I could find info regarding the next game online, but not the first one which makes me think last nights hit out was very friendly, with the main focus for both sides being the second hit out.
04 Jun 20:54 · edited 04 Jun 21:55 · History
1-0 Chile at the half

edit: 3-1 win for Chile in the end. Hopes up for game 2
04 Jun 22:01
mrsmiis
1-0 Chile at the half

edit: 3-1 win for Chile in the end. Hopes up for game 2
Any idea who scored our goal?

04 Jun 22:14
Simon B
Not quite as cultured, but Valparaiso also features in H. P. Lovecraft’s gothic horror The Call of Cthulhu - along with Dunedin.
I'm always struck that that story mentions a boarding house on West Street, Auckland (off K' Road, now mostly demolished for motorway), which really was the dodgy part of town back then. HPL did his research.

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04 Jun 23:08 · edited 04 Jun 23:14 · History
They are just friendlies, and you'd expect nearly everyone to get a game to show their wares.

But I'd imagine Gray, LKH, LBS & Supyk would all start in a full strength side. Perhaps Coveny & Ukich. Plus Walker when returning from injury.

05 Jun 02:21
Seems Friends of Football (up there with Niche Cache for quality articles) have got some limited info on the game from Chilean FA socials.

Loke obviously subbed on, as he didn't start.

https://www.friendsoffootballnz.com/2025/06/05/new-zealand-u-20s-lose-3-1-to-chile-in-behind-closed-doors-international/

New Zealand’s U-20 men’s team have lost the first game in their two-match series with Chile.

Played behind closed doors at Complejo Deportivo Quilín, Santiago, the Football Federation of Chile reported their side won 3-1 with goals from Nicolás Carcamo, Rodrigo Vásquez and an own goal.

We’ll update this story when more information becomes available.

The match was not streamed, and New Zealand’s goalscorer has not yet been confirmed.

The Football Federation of Chile says the second match to be played on Sunday (NZT) will be open to the public and will be broadcast on the local Chilevisión service.

The match is not yet listed with streaming service FIFA+.

The two-match series is being used to help both teams prepare for the FIFA U-20 Men’s World Cup to be held in Chile later this year.

Main photo credit: Football Federation of Chile communications.



05 Jun 10:56 · edited 05 Jun 11:00 · History
NZ goal scorer still a mystery.

This one closed doors. Be interesting to see if is much of a crowd for Game 2, and the starting lineup.

Young Socceroos play Argentina in BA tomorrow (Friday)

06 Jun 00:25
Forgot to post yesterday. I believe NZ goalscorer was LBS. Good goal apparently but I haven't seen the footage