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Jeff Vader wrote:

Um... yes and no.

 

Players will go and play under coaches that will help them get a head. If I was one of those Wanderers kids, I'd go play for Willy as well because I know it increases my chances (or conversely, if I fuck it up, I am toast).

If Willy says 'you need to play for me to help increase your chances' etc then yes, it is a conflict.

 

Lets be honest though - Willy is a good coach of young talent. Where would you rather have them, with Marshy at Eastern Suburbs or Knowles at Bay Olympic?

 

I think the kids are fine with him.

also Marshy isn't coaching the men's team at suburbs - Mark Holt is the first team coach there (Marshy is DOC... for the time being).

February 07, 2014 14:26
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I see what you are saying there. Good point.

February 07, 2014 14:32
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[quote=Global Game]this recent discussion started by "FootballNut" his first post, number 2089 on this thread, asking who else was elligible to be added to the WSC squad. 

Global Game, tell us all some more about Birhana (couldn't find much info, not even DOB), Rahan, Te Atawhai, Corey and Joel to support your contention that they will give WSC and run for their money and then some!

And does anyone else know of any other players elligible for NZ for the U20 WC in 2015 - in the spirit of FootbalNut's original post #2089?


Big Pete is the certified anorak on kiwi talent diaspora and he's answered in relation to most of the players mentioned. Sincere apologies from me on those Spain, Bush, Yamamoto, de Vries  as I thought they were still eligible age-wise.

Cory Mitchell - regular starter for Cashmere technical throughout 2013 when they wone evrything including Chatham Cup and cotinues to be regular starter for Canterbury this season, but now I'm unsure of his age if that other lot are also 1994. Big Pete, any idea of Cory's age? He was at Napier last year I think?

Hamish Cadigan. left back on 2013 NZSS UK tour. Canty Youth. Off to US college this year I believe.
Joel Stevens is an Otago lad now playing for Tee Dubs.


Corey Mitchell is showing great maturity for his age and must be one of NZ's best young prospects in midfielders. Has appeared in all Canty Utd's games this year except one. Unfortunately according to the Canty Utd matchday program he was born 16/6/94 so is ineligible.
None of the Canterbury youngsters who've played in the first team so far this season are young enough for NZ u-20's 2015.
Hamish Cadigan age 17 last year, a left-back from Western & Papanui High School who played every minute of NZ secondary schools UK tour sounds a real prospect. Regular in Canty youth league side this season. Article about him here: 


DREAM COME TRUE: Hamish Cadigan with All Whites skipper Winston Reid during Secondary Schools UK tour.


I hear the three local Japanese kids in the Canterbury youth side are pretty good: midfilder Renta Yamamata (Ken's younger brother) made his debut in the youth league a couple of weeks ago, strike Kaz Koyama has been amongst the goals and there's also midfilder Boon Ozawa.
Good to see the Asian talent coming through  - though we've got to do more to encourage the local Korean kids. Despite the fact many more Koreans than Japanese live in Christchurch, there's only kids from Japanese immigrant families in the Canty youth side.
I know the Koreans are crazy about football so it's a mystery to me more aren't coming through...
Defender Michael Bu from Cashmere Tech senior team is in the Canty youth league squad - Chinese family I think? 
February 07, 2014 17:31
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There is a prolific Kiwi striker at Inter Milan's academy, Alex Cooke - problem is, he's only seven:

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/soccer-football/news/article.cfm?c_id=86&objectid=10840547

Pick him!


If he's good enough he's old enough!
February 07, 2014 18:50
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Nick Sudgen is the first U20 to be moving to ECB

Auckland Football Federation (AFF) East Coast Bays Sugden, Nicholas Pending 2014-02-04

February 08, 2014 12:18
chopah
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chopah wrote:

Nick Sudgen is the first U20 to be moving to ECB

Auckland Football Federation (AFF) East Coast Bays Sugden, Nicholas Pending 2014-02-04


these two as well - from the Wanderers SC team
International Transfers East Coast Bays Trbuhovich, Stjepan Approved 2014-01-22 2014-01-23
International Transfers East Coast Bays Trbuhovich, Tomislav Approved 2014-01-22 2014-01-23

February 08, 2014 12:26
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Brock Messenger heading there too.

Re: Earlier discussion about Tom Probert, he has been excellent for WaiBOP, bright future ahead of him. Certainly would rank him alongside Mitchell when it comes to young centre backs. Another player who deserves mention is Reid Drake, has been starting for WaiBOP of late, putting in some good shifts, definitely in contention.

February 08, 2014 12:56
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wasn't Brock already at ECB?

I think i saw him on the transfer page as having a pending international clearance?

February 08, 2014 13:33
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chopah wrote:

wasn't Brock already at ECB?

I think i saw him on the transfer page as having a pending international clearance?


Perhaps I saw it around the wrong way. Rate his game, so if he is going overseas it'd be interesting to see where
February 08, 2014 14:57
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chopah wrote:

i get what your saying and for the most part I agree - he is clearly a good coach of talent but that's not really under question.

 

It's more about what number of kids going to ECB starts becoming an issue - is 4 ok - what about 6 - how about 10?

I don't think Willy would be silly enough to say if you want to go further you have to play for me - but here is another thought:

Most of these kids got to this point without ECB - so what makes Willy so sure he is the best place for them now?  surely other clubs can provide good pathways for these kids and another point is will he play them all or is he just hoarding future talent?

kids these ages - are they better off playing 90 mins every week - or fighting for a place in the defending champions team?

Food for thought?

Maybe its nothing to do with u20 and willie thinks these lads would clearly add to his chance of winning the league again, good on him for getting them to sign.
February 08, 2014 15:47
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sure - there is that way to look at it.

Do you not think though that when you coach a rep or international team it's poor form to sign other clubs players to your club?  Isn't his job as NZ U20's assistant coach based around getting these kids the best prep for the world cup - does ECB offer that if he get's them all in one place and they can't all play?

I just don't think it's a very good look and the issue is he could be accused of mis-using his power at NZF to benefit his job at ECB.

February 08, 2014 15:56
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chopah wrote:

sure - there is that way to look at it.

Do you not think though that when you coach a rep or international team it's poor form to sign other clubs players to your club?  Isn't his job as NZ U20's assistant coach based around getting these kids the best prep for the world cup - does ECB offer that if he get's them all in one place and they can't all play?

I just don't think it's a very good look and the issue is he could be accused of mis-using his power at NZF to benefit his job at ECB.

compared to where they would have been playing anyway it may be a good move for the player, Sudgen was at Onehunga would he have been in their plans? maybe maybe not.
February 08, 2014 16:08
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watching_from_far wrote:
chopah wrote:

sure - there is that way to look at it.

Do you not think though that when you coach a rep or international team it's poor form to sign other clubs players to your club?  Isn't his job as NZ U20's assistant coach based around getting these kids the best prep for the world cup - does ECB offer that if he get's them all in one place and they can't all play?

I just don't think it's a very good look and the issue is he could be accused of mis-using his power at NZF to benefit his job at ECB.

compared to where they would have been playing anyway it may be a good move for the player, Sudgen was at Onehunga would he have been in their plans? maybe maybe not.

ok so taking that stance - if Sudgen was in line for first team football at Onehunga then is moving still the right thing?  It clearly is for Willy and it might be in Nick's best interest but we don't really know.
Also as i pointed out earlier - most of these players are not from ECB and they have made it to this level already so there is an arguement that while Willy may be a good coach that these players can learn and develop at other clubs too.
February 08, 2014 17:28
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chopah wrote:
chopah wrote:

Nick Sudgen is the first U20 to be moving to ECB

Auckland Football Federation (AFF) East Coast Bays Sugden, Nicholas Pending 2014-02-04


these two as well - from the Wanderers SC team

International Transfers East Coast Bays Trbuhovich, Stjepan Approved 2014-01-22 2014-01-23
International Transfers East Coast Bays Trbuhovich, Tomislav Approved 2014-01-22 2014-01-23


And I'm picking Andre makes 4 Chopah?
February 08, 2014 22:05
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there is no transfer in for Andre - but yes he is one of the players "rumoured" to be going to ECB.

Maybe I am a little precious about this but i just feel that if your employed with NZF that you should not be tapping up players.

Now it could be that i am wrong and Willy has had nothing to do with it, but i could also be right... 

February 08, 2014 23:39
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What does your gut tell you Chopah.


I see a team that has a history of winning, the coach is in an NZF management role and players go 'good coach, good team history, and hes a boss in an international team' Personally, I think it stacks up.

They need a replacement for Joe Bresnahan. He really is a panel beater footballer and at this level, he just gets found out too easily now.

February 09, 2014 00:51
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"It will be interesting to see how many people front up when its held in NZ. For a start off we are a long long way from Europe for supporters. We will probably get plenty of South Americans(hope that Brazil/Argentina qualify) As for kiwis.....who knows how many will go to matches."



It will probably depend on how realistic the price of tickets are!!!!

NZF in charge who knows.....



You can get tickets for Cricket World Cup games from $20 Adult and $5 Kids so I'd say similar pricing would seem a good idea 
Better make tickets a $1 in Wellington though if they want people to turn up

February 09, 2014 09:07
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chopah wrote:
watching_from_far wrote:
chopah wrote:

sure - there is that way to look at it.

Do you not think though that when you coach a rep or international team it's poor form to sign other clubs players to your club?  Isn't his job as NZ U20's assistant coach based around getting these kids the best prep for the world cup - does ECB offer that if he get's them all in one place and they can't all play?

I just don't think it's a very good look and the issue is he could be accused of mis-using his power at NZF to benefit his job at ECB.

compared to where they would have been playing anyway it may be a good move for the player, Sudgen was at Onehunga would he have been in their plans? maybe maybe not.


ok so taking that stance - if Sudgen was in line for first team football at Onehunga then is moving still the right thing?  It clearly is for Willy and it might be in Nick's best interest but we don't really know.

Also as i pointed out earlier - most of these players are not from ECB and they have made it to this level already so there is an arguement that while Willy may be a good coach that these players can learn and develop at other clubs too.

so Rooney should still be at Everton then instead of furthering his career...
February 09, 2014 10:10
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He'd have better chance of playing champions league next season

February 09, 2014 10:22
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watching_from_far wrote:
chopah wrote:
watching_from_far wrote:
chopah wrote:

sure - there is that way to look at it.

Do you not think though that when you coach a rep or international team it's poor form to sign other clubs players to your club?  Isn't his job as NZ U20's assistant coach based around getting these kids the best prep for the world cup - does ECB offer that if he get's them all in one place and they can't all play?

I just don't think it's a very good look and the issue is he could be accused of mis-using his power at NZF to benefit his job at ECB.

compared to where they would have been playing anyway it may be a good move for the player, Sudgen was at Onehunga would he have been in their plans? maybe maybe not.


ok so taking that stance - if Sudgen was in line for first team football at Onehunga then is moving still the right thing?  It clearly is for Willy and it might be in Nick's best interest but we don't really know.

Also as i pointed out earlier - most of these players are not from ECB and they have made it to this level already so there is an arguement that while Willy may be a good coach that these players can learn and develop at other clubs too.

so Rooney should still be at Everton then instead of furthering his career...

how do you know that the move from Onehunga to ECB will further his career?  They are both in the same league - if players never stayed at smaller clubs then whats the point of having player development plans.
In any case i refer (again) to my previous statement:
"most of these players are not from ECB and they have made it to this level already so there is an argument that while Willy may be a good coach that these players can learn and develop at other clubs too."

February 09, 2014 11:54
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What does your gut tell you Chopah.


I see a team that has a history of winning, the coach is in an NZF management role and players go 'good coach, good team history, and hes a boss in an international team' Personally, I think it stacks up.

They need a replacement for Joe Bresnahan. He really is a panel beater footballer and at this level, he just gets found out too easily now.


ok I will "bite".
The only thing I realistically see that ECB can offer that we can't is Premier League football - I personally think that the coaching argument cancels itself out - both clubs also have a good history of playing young players, one team is a little more recruitment based than the other though.  Boss of an international team shouldn't really mean anything for two reasons (we all know from reading on here that it's not always the best coaches that get to work with NZF and at the end of the day Baezely picks the team and it would be wrong of Willy to tell Andre that by playing for bays he has a better chance of getting in the squad - exactly what I have been saying).
I think there are some real con's as well but that's for us to discuss with Andre when we talk to him.
Joe and Andre play in different positions - plus Joe was his Capt last year (and his German translator) so i can't see him being moved on.
February 09, 2014 12:00
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chopah wrote:
watching_from_far wrote:
chopah wrote:
watching_from_far wrote:
chopah wrote:

sure - there is that way to look at it.

Do you not think though that when you coach a rep or international team it's poor form to sign other clubs players to your club?  Isn't his job as NZ U20's assistant coach based around getting these kids the best prep for the world cup - does ECB offer that if he get's them all in one place and they can't all play?

I just don't think it's a very good look and the issue is he could be accused of mis-using his power at NZF to benefit his job at ECB.

compared to where they would have been playing anyway it may be a good move for the player, Sudgen was at Onehunga would he have been in their plans? maybe maybe not.


ok so taking that stance - if Sudgen was in line for first team football at Onehunga then is moving still the right thing?  It clearly is for Willy and it might be in Nick's best interest but we don't really know.

Also as i pointed out earlier - most of these players are not from ECB and they have made it to this level already so there is an arguement that while Willy may be a good coach that these players can learn and develop at other clubs too.

so Rooney should still be at Everton then instead of furthering his career...


how do you know that the move from Onehunga to ECB will further his career?  They are both in the same league - if players never stayed at smaller clubs then whats the point of having player development plans.

In any case i refer (again) to my previous statement:

"most of these players are not from ECB and they have made it to this level already so there is an argument that while Willy may be a good coach that these players can learn and develop at other clubs too."


I don't quite understand your issue with them going to ECB if there is no guarantee in them developing more or less then where they may have been playing. if they want to go then let them go. if they do develop brilliant but if they don't develop then who is to say if they stayed where they were they would have developed more? player development plans, really!! any decent national age group player will move on and should be playing at a higher level then your lot, I don't see how playing National League then going playing Div 1 in the case of Andre will be of any benefit to him. The idea of the plans is the hope that one of your players will do well at a much higher level! I beat Ham Wanders are kicking themselves that they let Woods leave!
February 09, 2014 13:14
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Brock Messenger heading there too.

Re: Earlier discussion about Tom Probert, he has been excellent for WaiBOP, bright future ahead of him. Certainly would rank him alongside Mitchell when it comes to young centre backs. Another player who deserves mention is Reid Drake, has been starting for WaiBOP of late, putting in some good shifts, definitely in contention.

Cory Mitchell is a midfielder  - never plays centre-back - part of Canterbury's mighty midfield with Clapham, Kelly and Morrison.
Probert was unlucky to be cut from the NZ u-17 squad before the World Cup last year I think.
His dad Paul was a year or two below me at school in Nelson. Debuted for Nelson United aged 18 and later played for Gisborne City & the All Whites.
February 09, 2014 14:42
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chopah wrote:
watching_from_far wrote:
chopah wrote:

sure - there is that way to look at it.

Do you not think though that when you coach a rep or international team it's poor form to sign other clubs players to your club?  Isn't his job as NZ U20's assistant coach based around getting these kids the best prep for the world cup - does ECB offer that if he get's them all in one place and they can't all play?

I just don't think it's a very good look and the issue is he could be accused of mis-using his power at NZF to benefit his job at ECB.

compared to where they would have been playing anyway it may be a good move for the player, Sudgen was at Onehunga would he have been in their plans? maybe maybe not.


ok so taking that stance - if Sudgen was in line for first team football at Onehunga then is moving still the right thing?  It clearly is for Willy and it might be in Nick's best interest but we don't really know.

Also as i pointed out earlier - most of these players are not from ECB and they have made it to this level already so there is an arguement that while Willy may be a good coach that these players can learn and develop at other clubs too.


Nick Sugdeon went to school at Westlake Boys, probably only played Onehunga because he was part of Wyners and now maybe moving "home".  Just a thought.
February 09, 2014 16:30
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yep fair enough re Sudgen.

With the rest - if one of the players thinks ECB is the best place to be then so be it - all i am saying is 2 things.

1) Willy shouldn't be targeting these kids - if he can't help himself then resign from the NZF role - if he isn't and players have asked him about coming across then i believe it's his role to advise them that they don't have to to further themselves with NZF - which to be fair could be happening.

2) I have no problems with guys going to higher opportunities - that's why we are in the football development business but I want kids to move for the right reasons and at the right times which is where the above point comes into play.


February 09, 2014 16:45
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Chopah, as a hard working club official I understand your angst at potentially losing one of your young first team players.  I also understand the implication that, potentially Andre and others, are only going to ECB's because of the coach - not that he is the ECB first team coach but the U20's assistant coach.


As others have said, you can understand why Nick, Tommie, Stefan and potentially Andre are going to ECB, yes NPL club, won last year, good coach and they have a season to build up a personal relationship with that coach, so that if there is subsequently a tight selection decision in the U20's maybe they will have an advantage - and you can't blame them for this line of thinking.


As defending NPL winners, the people I feel for are the midfielders who won with ECB's last year, good enough to win the title, not good enough to defend it? Nick, Stefan and (potentially Andre) all mid fielders, so either last years midfield players are not going to get the chance to defend the title they won, or the 3 new players are going to see a lot of bench time - which would defeat the purpose of going their in the first place.


So all that said, unless you know Willie approached all these 4 with promises etc, then maybe they're just being smart putting themselves with someone with input to who makes the NZ squad for the WC in 2015 - and really who can blame them, as bad as that tastes as a hard working club official/volunteer - I know where you are coming from.

February 09, 2014 18:00
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Optimist wrote:

Chopah, as a hard working club official I understand your angst at potentially losing one of your young first team players.  I also understand the implication that, potentially Andre and others, are only going to ECB's because of the coach - not that he is the ECB first team coach but the U20's assistant coach.


As others have said, you can understand why Nick, Tommie, Stefan and potentially Andre are going to ECB, yes NPL club, won last year, good coach and they have a season to build up a personal relationship with that coach, so that if there is subsequently a tight selection decision in the U20's maybe they will have an advantage - and you can't blame them for this line of thinking.


As defending NPL winners, the people I feel for are the midfielders who won with ECB's last year, good enough to win the title, not good enough to defend it? Nick, Stefan and (potentially Andre) all mid fielders, so either last years midfield players are not going to get the chance to defend the title they won, or the 3 new players are going to see a lot of bench time - which would defeat the purpose of going their in the first place.


So all that said, unless you know Willie approached all these 4 with promises etc, then maybe they're just being smart putting themselves with someone with input to who makes the NZ squad for the WC in 2015 - and really who can blame them, as bad as that tastes as a hard working club official/volunteer - I know where you are coming from.


yeah totally understand where your coming from - I guess at the beginning of this thread I said do people think it's a problem?
def can't really blame the players - as you put it on the surface the move seems to make sense.
So the only question is has Willy been underhanded about all this or has he been above board - that's the unresolved question for me - but again like you say, can't blame the players for this line of thinking.

February 09, 2014 18:41
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had an interesting chat with a senior player he was wondering why NZF didn't put the WSC in the NRFL as a complete side to continue team development? Interesting idea would sort out the "poaching" and also give them a large amount of games to work with.

Thoughts?

February 11, 2014 13:38
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Put them in Wellington Capital One......

February 11, 2014 14:56
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Brock Messenger heading there too.

Re: Earlier discussion about Tom Probert, he has been excellent for WaiBOP, bright future ahead of him. Certainly would rank him alongside Mitchell when it comes to young centre backs. Another player who deserves mention is Reid Drake, has been starting for WaiBOP of late, putting in some good shifts, definitely in contention.


Brock and Deklan already play for us.
February 11, 2014 16:12
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N-Bomb wrote:

Brock Messenger heading there too.

Re: Earlier discussion about Tom Probert, he has been excellent for WaiBOP, bright future ahead of him. Certainly would rank him alongside Mitchell when it comes to young centre backs. Another player who deserves mention is Reid Drake, has been starting for WaiBOP of late, putting in some good shifts, definitely in contention.


Brock and Deklan already play for us.
February 11, 2014 16:12
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Big Pete 65 wrote:
N-Bomb wrote:

Brock Messenger heading there too.

Re: Earlier discussion about Tom Probert, he has been excellent for WaiBOP, bright future ahead of him. Certainly would rank him alongside Mitchell when it comes to young centre backs. Another player who deserves mention is Reid Drake, has been starting for WaiBOP of late, putting in some good shifts, definitely in contention.

Cory Mitchell is a midfielder  - never plays centre-back - part of Canterbury's mighty midfield with Clapham, Kelly and Morrison.

Probert was unlucky to be cut from the NZ u-17 squad before the World Cup last year I think.

His dad Paul was a year or two below me at school in Nelson. Debuted for Nelson United aged 18 and later played for Gisborne City & the All Whites.


Adam Mitchell. Not sure where you got Cory from.
February 12, 2014 10:54
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N-Bomb wrote:
Big Pete 65 wrote:
N-Bomb wrote:

Brock Messenger heading there too.

Re: Earlier discussion about Tom Probert, he has been excellent for WaiBOP, bright future ahead of him. Certainly would rank him alongside Mitchell when it comes to young centre backs. Another player who deserves mention is Reid Drake, has been starting for WaiBOP of late, putting in some good shifts, definitely in contention.

Cory Mitchell is a midfielder  - never plays centre-back - part of Canterbury's mighty midfield with Clapham, Kelly and Morrison.

Probert was unlucky to be cut from the NZ u-17 squad before the World Cup last year I think.

His dad Paul was a year or two below me at school in Nelson. Debuted for Nelson United aged 18 and later played for Gisborne City & the All Whites.


Adam Mitchell. Not sure where you got Cory from.

Wires crossed - this relates to the discussion on the previous two pages of this thread about talented Canterbury players including Cory Mitchell  -see posts 2101 - 2123. Assumed you were referring to Cory.
February 12, 2014 14:42
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Someone was compiling a list of U20 World Cup possibles. Can't remember if he was mentioned of not, but probably should add Nick Delmoro. Has just signed with Spanish 2nd div Hercules.

February 26, 2014 08:22
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it would be wrong of Willy to tell Andre that by playing for bays he has a better chance of getting in the squad.

I think there are some real con's as well but that's for us to discuss with Andre when we talk to him.

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Chopah, has Andre decided where he's going to play winter football in 2014?

I'd imagine it would be hard to say no to the Assistant coach of the (potential) national squad you're playing for in Summer?
March 09, 2014 22:08
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hard to say no is right.

Andre is playing for ECB this winter.. which sucks but out of respect for the way the player handled the situation I shall comment no more and wish him all the best of luck.

March 10, 2014 20:47
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Sorry to hear that Chopah, tough for Andre to say no to though I'd expect, given the situation.



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Bazeley names squad for Fiji & PNG friendlies - full press release

Goalkeepers
Sam COPP (East Coast Bays)
Damien HIRST (Birkenhead United)
Cameron HOGG (Eastern Suburbs)
Adam MCDONALD (Western Springs)
Ruben PARKER (Waitakere City)
Oliver SAIL (Central United)
Zac SPEEDY (Three Kings United)

Defenders
Cory BROWN (Western Suburbs)
Tamupiwa DIMAIRO (Miramar Rangers)
Brock MESSENGER (Sunshine Coast Fire, AUS)
Scott MIDGLEY (Western Springs)
Adam MITCHELL (Central United)
Thomas PROBERT (Wellington Olympic)
Deklan WYNNE (East Coast Bays)
Finn COCHRAN (Central United)

Midfielders
Andrew BLAKE (Miramar Rangers)
Daniel BOWKETT (Miramar Rangers)
Andre DE JONG (East Coast Bays)
Clayton LEWIS (Miramar Rangers)
Alex PALEZEVIC (Western Suburbs)
Monty PATTERSON (Ipswich Town)
Alex RUFER(Wellington Phoenix)
Matt RIDENTON (Wellington Phoenix)
Joel STEVENS (Miramar Rangers)

Forwards
Judd BAKER (East Coast Bays)
Stuart HOLTHUSEN (Onehunga Sports)
Elijah NEBLETT (Birkenhead United)
Tomislav TRBUHOVIC (Whittlesea Ranges, AUS)

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7 keepers and 4 strikers?

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ConanTroutman wrote:


7 keepers and 4 strikers?


From the press release:
The squad also features seven keepers as the coaching staff search for someone to put his glove up as the undisputed number one.

Gk 2nd position is always striker, isn't it?
April 29, 2014 15:02
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