Other than the 2 non-starting keepers, the entire USA squad are full professionals and therein lies the difference. The whole Wanderers SC concept was always going to be a failure as they aren't training every day together and they were playing in an absolute sub-standard competition with the ASB Premiership. You can see the difference Tuiloma and Edge have being full-time professionals. In my opinion, we need to get more young players playing professionally overseas (not including Australia) in order to truly progress.
New Zealand Men's U-20s
Decent points by American commentator. Billingsly running into blind alleys by himself
Zelalem is class
well I don't think Hudson is going to find many players in this lot who are going to get us to the 2018 World Cup. Bill obviously will be in the side, Wyne I would be willing to give another chance as our left full back stocks are dire. Anyone else?
Other than the 2 non-starting keepers, the entire USA squad are full professionals and therein lies the difference. The whole Wanderers SC concept was always going to be a failure as they aren't training every day together and they were playing in an absolute sub-standard competition with the ASB Premiership. You can see the difference Tuiloma and Edge have being full-time professionals. In my opinion, we need to get more young players playing professionally overseas (not including Australia) in order to truly progress.
Might as well bring Rufer on for Dyer, n o?
According to Hudson a lot of these boys are going to Russia in 2018. # alignment
As tourists
I agree with you for this match, but in general he would be one of the better players in the squad.
According to Hudson a lot of these boys are going to Russia in 2018. # alignment
As tourists
Think the most disappointing thing is there is no real excitement with this team it seems - no Rojas/Kosta/Boyd/Thomas types coming through; they all seem on the same low level except BIll.
So what is the story now, if we beat Myanmar are we definitely through?
unlikely
So what is the story now, if we beat Myanmar are we definitely through?
USA and Ukraine will go through, no? Depends on GD?
Cant see us scoring let alone winning a game tbh
I think Ukraine's convincing victory would edge them over us.
I do not get all the angst. The USA team plays at a different level because their senior team does too. Thier coaching quality and also available player pool reflects this. Our guys are guilty of something serious IMHO though: ball watching, and lack of movement. Individual player quality and good coaching/ drilling makes up for the rest of the reasons we are down, and (so far in this tournament) goalless.
Yeah, I am poor at multitaskin typing while trying to watch the game. What I was aiming at saying was that USA are playing well (good passing precision, individual speed, organisation) and we are not playing well (missed passing, ball watching, hopeful kicks forward). However, I was also stating the reasons why I would expect the US to win this game anyway and hence I am not angsting too much. The AWs losing does not stop me from watching it.
In contrast, I was angsting a lot during our game against Ukraine. We might have won that particular game, in any case it was close. Our poor performance then was the difference. Here, not so much: if we played better it might be a 1:2 loss or at best a draw.
Does that answer your question?
I do not get all the angst. The USA team plays at a different level because their senior team does too. Thier coaching quality and also available player pool reflects this. Our guys are guilty of something serious IMHO though: ball watching, and lack of movement. Individual player quality and good coaching/ drilling makes up for the rest of the reasons we are down, and (so far in this tournament) goalless.
Yeah, I am poor at multitaskin typing while trying to watch the game. What I was aiming at saying was that USA are playing well (good passing precision, individual speed, organisation) and we are not playing well (missed passing, ball watching, hopeful kicks forward). However, I was also stating the reasons why I would expect the US to win this game anyway and hence I am not angsting too much. The AWs losing does not stop me from watching it.
In contrast, I was angsting a lot during our game against Ukraine. We might have won that particular game, in any case it was close. Our poor performance then was the difference. Here, not so much: if we played better it might be a 1:2 loss or at best a draw.
Does that answer your question?
Not sure what this Patterson guy brings exactly? Rufer isn't great, but surely better than him?
So frustrating these last two games watching NZ not being able to get shots on target.
I think our boys have cracked under the pressure of a home croud and heightened public expectations following a surprise draw first up. A lot of what's gone wrong tonight has been unforced errors. Kind of like the missed sitter at the end of the Ukraine game too. Apart from Tuiloma we look like possums in headlights
Dyer had all the time in the world there, better play though
croud figures was 16 000 plus??
I watched Myanmar vs Ukraine today and thought Myanmar were quite impressive in the first half. They don't have a lot of height but have some very quick players. I think they will cause NZ problems.
Other than the 2 non-starting keepers, the entire USA squad are full professionals and therein lies the difference. The whole Wanderers SC concept was always going to be a failure as they aren't training every day together and they were playing in an absolute sub-standard competition with the ASB Premiership. You can see the difference Tuiloma and Edge have being full-time professionals. In my opinion, we need to get more young players playing professionally overseas (not including Australia) in order to truly progress.
Two phoenix pros are on the bench
Have to get that on target..
Bill slightly frustrated at how sharke his teamates are im guessing
Other than the 2 non-starting keepers, the entire USA squad are full professionals and therein lies the difference. The whole Wanderers SC concept was always going to be a failure as they aren't training every day together and they were playing in an absolute sub-standard competition with the ASB Premiership. You can see the difference Tuiloma and Edge have being full-time professionals. In my opinion, we need to get more young players playing professionally overseas (not including Australia) in order to truly progress.
Two phoenix pros are on the bench
In my opinion, the Wellington Phoenix is hardly the environment required to develop quality players.
These american commentators are far better than your average nz sports caller.
yeah....
That seals it #average
Wow that goal was quite disgusting.
That was pathetic. Someone fudgeing clear it.
Did I mention "ball watching" and "lack of movement"?
hard out ball watching all farken night
Can't believe the supposed best U20 players in the country haven't figured out that you shouldn't ball watch
Another goal from a completely unforced defensive error. FFS
Other than the 2 non-starting keepers, the entire USA squad are full professionals and therein lies the difference. The whole Wanderers SC concept was always going to be a failure as they aren't training every day together and they were playing in an absolute sub-standard competition with the ASB Premiership. You can see the difference Tuiloma and Edge have being full-time professionals. In my opinion, we need to get more young players playing professionally overseas (not including Australia) in order to truly progress.
Two phoenix pros are on the bench
In my opinion, the Wellington Phoenix is hardly the environment required to develop quality players.
Almost threw up at that last one.
*sigh*
Other than the 2 non-starting keepers, the entire USA squad are full professionals and therein lies the difference. The whole Wanderers SC concept was always going to be a failure as they aren't training every day together and they were playing in an absolute sub-standard competition with the ASB Premiership. You can see the difference Tuiloma and Edge have being full-time professionals. In my opinion, we need to get more young players playing professionally overseas (not including Australia) in order to truly progress.
Two phoenix pros are on the bench
In my opinion, the Wellington Phoenix is hardly the environment required to develop quality players.
*Read first post
Other than the 2 non-starting keepers, the entire USA squad are full professionals and therein lies the difference. The whole Wanderers SC concept was always going to be a failure as they aren't training every day together and they were playing in an absolute sub-standard competition with the ASB Premiership. You can see the difference Tuiloma and Edge have being full-time professionals. In my opinion, we need to get more young players playing professionally overseas (not including Australia) in order to truly progress.
Two phoenix pros are on the bench
So what was everyone saying about the CB's being good? :d