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Not Tim Brown, he has retired from all football and even if he hadn't retired he would not get picked.

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I'd like to think that Si would potentially make himself availble for selection even though he is now a scout.  U23s clearly weak in the middle and it would be an appropriate sendoff for one of our greatest AWs.
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I'd like to think that Si would potentially make himself availble for selection even though he is now a scout.  U23s clearly weak in the middle and it would be an appropriate sendoff for one of our greatest AWs.
 
I hope thats a tongue in cheek comment... what value would there be in selecting a 36 year old retired professional for the Olympic games when you have Keat / McGlinchey / Henderson available and who will arguebly become our established CM pairings for the All Whites.
 
Take him along as a technical assistant to share his experience sure, but beyond that the best thing he can do for NZ football is scout some of our younger players and get them signed up to his MSL team.
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http://www.fifa.com/mensolympic/news/newsid=1609808/?intcmp=newsreader_news_caption

One spot remaining - will either be Oman or Senegal (match will be played 23rd April)

These other countries have qualified
Great Britain
Spain
Switzerland
Belarus
Uruguay
Brazil
Japan
Korea Republic
United Arab Emirates
New Zealand
Mexico
Honduras
Gabon
Egypt
Morocco


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In my view one of the prime candidates for being added to our squad for London is Liam Graham (a right fullback, member of NZ u-20 at World Cup last year) playing the last couple of years for the youth team of Vicenza in the Italian second division.
This is in effect the reserve team as the reserve league is a youth league. He plays regularly against Serie A youth teams: AC Milan, Inter, Chievo, Brescia etc.
 
Video of Liam Graham playing for Vicenza against Juventus youth team in the last 16 one of Italy's premier youth football tournies, the Viareggio Cup 15/2/12 in a 1-1 draw (Juventus won on penalties):
 
 
Liam sounds like he's part of a pretty useful defence and they caused Juventus' youth team problems:

'First up were Vicenza, a team who provided what was easily the sternest test yet for a Juventus side who began the game somewhat tentatively, and fell behind to a penalty after a fair handball call. The reaction however spoke volumes for the spirit found within the team and they showed great resilience to fight back, eventually equalising through a great goal by Stefano Beltrame.

Despite pressing on for a winner, the Vicenza defence held on and sent the game to penalties where the Bianconeri�s mental strength would once again prove the difference, with all five players who stepped up � Padovan, Bouy, Libertazzi, Chibsah and Beltrame � able to score and Lauren?iu Br?nescu making a brilliant save to see Juventus through.'

 
His games this season. Has started most of Vicenza Primavera's matches:
 
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Apparantely the NZ Olympic Football teams were named today in Auckland...

Ryan Nelsen to captain U23 Men's football team at London 2012. Looking for a repeat of 2010 WC! Rebecca Smith to captain women's team.


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George Kostanza wrote:
Apparantely the NZ Olympic Football teams were named today in Auckland...

Ryan Nelsen to captain U23 Men's football team at London 2012. Looking for a repeat of 2010 WC! Rebecca Smith to captain women's team.


 
Great, now the team has 3 people coaching it at once. Poor kids are going to get so confused.
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George Kostanza wrote:
Apparantely the NZ Olympic Football teams were named today in Auckland...

Ryan Nelsen to captain U23 Men's football team at London 2012. Looking for a repeat of 2010 WC! Rebecca Smith to captain women's team.


 
No, just confirming that the football teams have been selected to play at the Olympics and the captains.
 
Squads to be named by June 15.
 
 
Radio Sport rather lazily reported it as "Olympic Triathlon, Football teams announced" which isn't right.
 
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"as well as the performance of the All Whites at the 2012 World Cup; "
 
Which world cup was his?  Must have missed it.
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DRAW for men's and women's tournaments to be made April 25 NZ time (next Wednesday).
15 teams already qualified. See: http://www.fifa.com/mensolympic/teams/index.html
FIFA Olympic football homepage: http://www.fifa.com/mensolympic/index.html
 
LATEST NEWS ON THE GREAT BRITAIN TEAM with Beckham a likely over-age player:
 
 
"Representatives from all four Home Nations are in the latest squad, including Gareth Bale, Craig Bellamy, Steven Fletcher and Chris Brunt and the FA remain optimistic non-English players will accept a chance to play in a major tournament on home soil.
Arsenal's Jack Wilshere has been ruled out through injury but former Chelsea star Joe Cole, currently on loan at Lille, is amongst the potential over-age players, whilst Birmingham's Jack Butland, Chelsea's Josh McEachran and Crystal Palace's Nathaniel Clyne are amongst those who meet the Under-23 criteria.

Knowledge that Beckham could still be in the squad, and appear in competitive games in the UK for possibly the last time, should help push ticket sales which, for GB games, are said to be strong.

In excess of 50,000 have been sold for the opening game at Old Trafford on July 26 and a double-header friendly featuring both the men's and women's teams will be confirmed for the north-east at some stage over the next few weeks.

GB will learn their three group stage opponents at the official draw on Tuesday, although it is likely they will be kept apart from fellow European contenders Spain, who are almost certain to include Manchester United keeper David de Gea, Switzerland and Belarus, plus Brazil, who will almost certainly be a fellow top seed.

Argentina, USA and Australia are amongst the most notable teams who have not qualified but the presence of Uruguay, Mexico and New Zealand should generate wider interest.

The final place in the men's competition will be decided on Monday, when Senegal take on Oman in a play-off."

NZ will name its men's and women's squads by June 15.
 
Other star players the Oly Whites could come up against in July:
Bojan Krkic (Spain): Roma, Barcelona

Javier Hernandez (Mexico): Manchester United, in a fearsome Mexico side, which should also include Arsenal�s Carlos Vela.

Alexandre Pato (Brazil): AC Milan

Brazil is expected to take a strong team to London, with young stars and full internationals such as Santos� Neymar, Espanyol�s Philippe Coutinho and A.C. Milan�s Alexandre Pato.

Menezes released a 52-player preliminary squad in March and included Ronaldinho as one of the players over 23. Others were Inter Milan goalkeeper Julio Cesar, Milan defender Thiago Silva, Barcelona right back Daniel Alves, Chelsea defender David Luiz and Porto striker Hulk.


VENUES AND MATCH SCHEDULE PRELIMINARY GROUP STAGE LONDON OLYMPICS FOOTBALL: MEN AND WOMEN (M/W):
 
Some illustrious stadia the Oly Whites and Football Ferns will be playing at:
 
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Millennium Stadium, Cardiff
25 July 2012
16:00 - 20:45
W
Preliminaries (2 matches)
City of Coventry Stadium, Coventry
25 July 2012
17:00 - 21:45
W
Preliminaries (2 matches)
Hampden Park, Glasgow
25 July 2012
17:00 - 21:45
W
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Hampden Park, Glasgow
26 July 2012
12:00 - 16:45
M
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St James' Park, Newcastle
26 July 2012
14:30 - 19:15
M
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Old Trafford, Manchester
26 July 2012
17:00 - 21:45
M
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City of Coventry Stadium, Coventry
26 July 2012
19:45 - 21:45
M
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Millennium Stadium, Cardiff
26 July 2012
19:45 - 21:45
M
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City of Coventry Stadium, Coventry
28 July 2012
12:00 - 16:45
W
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Millennium Stadium, Cardiff
28 July 2012
14:30 - 19:15
W
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Hampden Park, Glasgow
28 July 2012
17:00 - 21:45
W
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Old Trafford, Manchester
29 July 2012
12:00 - 16:45
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City of Coventry Stadium, Coventry
29 July 2012
14:30 - 19:15
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St James' Park, Newcastle
29 July 2012
17:00 - 21:45
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Wembley Stadium
29 July 2012
17:00 - 21:45
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Millennium Stadium, Cardiff
31 July 2012
14:30 - 16:30
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St James' Park, Newcastle
31 July 2012
14:30 - 19:15
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Old Trafford, Manchester
31 July 2012
17:15 - 19:15
W
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City of Coventry Stadium, Coventry
31 July 2012
19:45 - 21:45
W
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Wembley Stadium
31 July 2012
19:45 - 21:45
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Hampden Park, Glasgow
01 August 2012
14:30 - 16:30
M
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St James' Park, Newcastle
01 August 2012
14:30 - 16:30
M
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City of Coventry Stadium, Coventry
01 August 2012
17:00 - 21:45
M
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Millennium Stadium, Cardiff
01 August 2012
17:00 - 21:45
M
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Old Trafford, Manchester
01 August 2012
17:00 - 19:00
M
Preliminaries (1 match)
Wembley Stadium
01 August 2012
17:00 - 19:00
M
Preliminaries (1 match)
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Tony Veitch is really a dick

Tony Veitch vents on the stupidity of having age-grade football at the Olympics
http://www.radiosport.co.nz/player/ondemand/1326578840-Veitchy-on-age-grade-football-at-the-Olympics

Is he aware that basketball, hockey, volleyball and handball are also at the Olympics.  How this guy is still on air is beyond me.

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Sounds like the overage players will be Nelsen, Smeltz and Reid. Not sure about Reid, with Smith available it seems like a bit of overlap but I guess there isn't midfielder who really commands a spot.

Quotes from Emblen...
"Shane Smeltz is in great form," said Emblen, who will be joined by All Whites boss Ricki Herbert at the Olympics.

"Although we have three to four other strikers in the All Whites frame as well, he's definitely a player I am looking at.

"Winston is back and playing at a high level. Those are the other two players I would really like to get," said Emblen.
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Forgot Luke Rowe was only 19 .. explains his exclusion for older players
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George Kostanza wrote:
Tony Veitch is really a dick

Tony Veitch vents on the stupidity of having age-grade football at the Olympics
http://www.radiosport.co.nz/player/ondemand/1326578840-Veitchy-on-age-grade-football-at-the-Olympics

Is he aware that basketball, hockey, volleyball and handball are also at the Olympics.  How this guy is still on air is beyond me.

 
Cant stand listening. But was his angle that the olympics should be the pinnacle etc etc? I can kind of see his reasoning if that is what he is saying. It is a little odd having age grade football at the Olympics.
 
Still, I'm also of the opinion that it is better than no football at all.
 
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The Olympics need football more than football needs the Olympics

FIFA wanted to ditch the Olympics some time ago, but in return for certain privileges, kick-backs and controlling rights, guaranteeing them a huge portion of television revenue, the compromise was reached some time ago that under 23 teams would be sent accompanied by 3 over age players.

This kept the IOC's Juan Antonio Samaranch happy and guaranteed former FIFA head Joao Havelange a place on the IOC board when he retired as FIFA president
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Good accurate comment above- I remember researching this issue at the time of the last Olympics to make an informed response to some idiot like Veitch who was saying the same things.
The Olympic football tournament always draws the biggest crowds at every Olympics- and this was true even decades ago.
 
Even in a country not obsessed with football like the USA, at he Atlanta Olympics in 1996 way more people attended football matches- men's and women's than any other event including track and field (running etc.) in terms of both cumulative total over the whole tournament and highest crowd.
And the TV viewership is huge too- even in Christchurch I remember having to arrange a date around the Atlanta Olympic football final live on TV One as the woman I was going out with (not previously especially a football fan) wanted to watch the Final live.
 
As I quote in my posting above, more than 50,000 tickets have been sold already 100 days out from the G.B. team's first match at Old Trafford.
If Beckham plays, as the last games to see a former Man. Utd and England hero in, interest in the tournament will be phenomenal...and a lot of locals would turn out to see Brazil or Spain.
Also a lot of people would travel to Britain just to watch their team in the football- expect a lot of Spanish, Brazilian, Mexican, Swiss, Japanese and Korean fans.
(I've noticed on Brazilian friendlies played in Europe broadcast on ESPN in recent years that thousands of Brazilians go to these matches.)

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what odds on giggsy also getting the call?  best player to have never played in a significant tournament (apart from tim brown)
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reg22 wrote:
what odds on giggsy also getting the call?� best player to have never played in a significant tournament (apart from tim brown)



George Best?
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el grapadura wrote:
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what odds on giggsy also getting the call?  best player to have never played in a significant tournament (apart from tim brown)



George Best?
George Weah?
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el grapadura wrote:
reg22 wrote:
what odds on giggsy also getting the call?  best player to have never played in a significant tournament (apart from tim brown)



George Best?
George Weah?
George Paladini?
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Just thinking of the starting lineup...it will be impressive.

                 Gleeson

Ried     Nelson   Smith   Hogg

                   Hicks

       McGeorge     Lindsay

Kosta      Wood         Rojas



Probably best back four any NZ side could put out. Midfield not world class but will be busy. Upfront we have quality.

My thoughts are we could go alright. Hope NZ get a good group. Whens the draw?
 
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Am sure Kosta will be available-
for the first time FIFA are making it compulsory for clubs to release players (as with the World Cup Finals) - previously clubs didn't have to, which led to some of the world's best players not being available.
 
Emblen seems to be going with Nelsen, Smeltz and Reid as over-age players however (see above posting by rjmiller  Posted: 19 Apr 2012 at 11:06am)- so doubt if Kosta will go.
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Robb wrote:
el grapadura wrote:
reg22 wrote:
what odds on giggsy also getting the call?  best player to have never played in a significant tournament (apart from tim brown)



George Best?
George Weah?
George Paladini?


George?

Point taken heaps better players than giggsy have missed the big stage
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Just thinking of the starting lineup...it will be impressive.

                 Gleeson

Ried     Nelson   Smith   Hogg

                   Hicks

       McGeorge     Lindsay

Kosta      Wood         Rojas



Hicks as a holder? What's his  best position?  What position is he playing for Central United? 
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Is Kosta too old?  I don't think he is.  Draps can slot in then if he is.  That team above isn't too far off a strongest AW side.  Again it is our midfield that lets us down.  @ Touchme I was deadset serious about Elliott, as we ar piss-poor in the midfield in NZ mens footie right now.  Maybe take Ivan instead of Ried as he has been a great servant to NZ and is more versitile then Reid (can play CB, RB, DM, CM).
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Is Kosta too old?  I don't think he is.  Draps can slot in then if he is.  That team above isn't too far off a strongest AW side.  Again it is our midfield that lets us down.  @ Touchme I was deadset serious about Elliott, as we ar piss-poor in the midfield in NZ mens footie right now.  Maybe take Ivan instead of Ried as he has been a great servant to NZ and is more versitile then Reid (can play CB, RB, DM, CM).
i don't think there's any need to take Reid if Nelsen is going, so I think an extra mid is much better idea. Vicelich would be good, he's versatile, experienced, and would be a cool head in holding midfield with all those young fullas around him.If not Vicelich then maybe Keat? Either way midfield is where we need the extra depth, not at the back or up front
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reg22 wrote:

Greyhound wrote:
Just thinking of the starting lineup...it will be impressive.              ï¿½ï¿½ GleesonRied     Nelson�� Smith�� Hogg              ï¿½ �� Hicks       McGeorge     LindsayKosta      Wood       ï¿½ Rojas
Hicks as a holder? What's his� best position?� What position is he playing for Central United?�


I doubt Lindsay will get a start as he's been overlooked for the entire qualifiers.

I'm more interested to see what overseas Under-23 players get brought in
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Interview with Neil Emblem on the Olympic team - Go to about half way in this audio clip.
http://content.radionetwork.co.nz/weekondemand/auckland/11545.mp3

(must not have been live as he would have been jumping for joy at his sides win in canterbury)

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reg22 wrote:
Greyhound wrote:
Just thinking of the starting lineup...it will be impressive.

                 Gleeson

Ried     Nelson   Smith   Hogg

                   Hicks

       McGeorge     Lindsay

Kosta      Wood         Rojas



Hicks as a holder? What's his  best position?  What position is he playing for Central United? 
 
Hicks plays best as central attacking midfield IMO, a very nice player, I'd have him feeding the front three, and he can shoot from distance too. I doubt we'd be that attacking however
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I like that Luke Rowe has an opportunity to show Emblen that he has picked the wrong left back in next weeks ASBP final.
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Just realised that i left Smeltz out. Maybe Rojas will can drop into midfield.

Luke rowe is solid but not in top three left backs in the country. Not quick enough for international level and Hogg and Milne and others offer better attacking options. Hoggs performances on the world stage for club and country recently have been world class.

Is that Raj lad for team Wellington too old? he looked a player yesterday against Auckland City.

I cant see us conceeding easy goals at the olympics with that back four! we just have to find a way too feed the front three.
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disco_mart wrote:


Is Kosta too old?� I don't think he is.� Draps can slot in then if he is.� That team above isn't too far off a strongest AW side.� Again it is our midfield that lets us down.� @ Touchme I was deadset serious about Elliott, as we ar piss-poor in the midfield in NZ mens footie right now.� Maybe take Ivan instead of Ried as he has been a great servant to NZ and is more versitile then Reid (can play CB, RB, DM, CM).
i don't think there's any need to take Reid if Nelsen is going, so I think an extra mid is much better idea. Vicelich would be good, he's versatile, experienced, and would be a cool head in holding midfield with all those young fullas around him.If not Vicelich then maybe Keat? Either way midfield is where we need the extra depth, not at the back or up front

McGlinchy. Eilliot and Vicelich are both past it.
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Draw Tonight    ( 11.00am Tue UK Time)
 
Pot 1       GB          Bearus         Spain         Switzerland
Pot 2       Brazil      Uruguay       Mexico      Honduras
Pot 3       Japan     Korea           UAE          NZ
Pot 4       Egypt     Gabon          Morroco    Senagal
 
                Group 1             Group 2            Group 3          Group 4
                  GB                    Mexico               Brazil              Spain
 
                   ( The above countries have been seeded top 4 )
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Greyhound wrote:


Is that Raj lad for team Wellington too old? he looked a player yesterday against Auckland City.



Johnny Raj is eligible, but has been overlooked

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